Will my life be better if I move to USA?

[Yatre]

I truly hate the UK class system.

I hate the whole private school vs grammar school vs state school elitism.

I hate the Oxbridge elitism and how Oxbridge-educated people dominate public life and the arrogance many of them have.

I hate the posh Etonians and Harrovians.

I hate the elitism of the Royal Family, the British aristocracy, all those titles and landed estates, the House of Lords etc.

Just the existence of certain British politicans (regardless of their politics - because this isn’t necessarily about their political beliefs) really irks me. Think David Cameron or Boris Johnson. Both upper-class, privately-educated, Oxford/Bullingdon Club, which have given them a great sense of arrogance about their position in life.

I hate the Oxford Union and the way they all dress up in posh attire, acting all special, and thinking their oratory skills will materialise into anything of worth.

This arrogance has been talked about before with many Brits believing that these Oxbridge, privately-educated, middle and upper-class people have the arrogance to think they have the right to run the country.

They’re present everywhere. Edward Davey, Keir Starmer, Suella Braverman, Tony Blair etc. it’s not just a right-wing thing. In fat, you could argue, these days, it’s more so left-wing.

Even successful British actors like Emma Thompson, Tom Hiddleston, Eddie Redmayne etc exhibit these attributes. They

I just don’t want to have to live in the same country as these types of people or listen to their antics.

Luckily, I’m a dual UK-US citizen since I was born in the US while my parents were living there for a while, but I have never been there since my parents returned and I don’t know anyone there.

I really want to move to the US.

If you know what it’s like to live in the USA, can you just tell me whether if I moved to the USA, I wouldn’t have to come across any of those posh, aristocratic, upper/middle-class, privately-educated, titled, Oxbridge graduate snobs that I mentioned.

I would live in a much more meritocratic country where nobody would tolerate Oxford Union debaters thinking their opinion matters or privately-educated people thinking they have a right to run the country.

At least Trump’s wealth or that of the Kardashian’s isn’t offensive to me because it just feels different - it doesn’t feel as layered and it doesn’t make them act as entitled or snobbish.

So, if I move to USA will I be free from these types of people or will I still see some of them/hear from them? I’m not sure if America is dominated by middle-class or posh, Oxbridge graduates or aristocrats.

Sorry for the rant. Just felt overwhelmed.

Sounds like you're describing England rather than the UK, its much more egalitarion in Scotland.

Off you trot love. It doesn't sound like this is the place for you.

If you think the US isn't elitist you're in for a shock though. Money talks there more than almost anywhere else on the planet.

Do you live in Oxford or something? Why are you so obsessed with it? Where I live in wales, I am not surrounded by posh aristocratic people with titles so am not remotely arsed. I’d take a lord of the manor over trump though any day.

Sure. You’ll find the same inequalities of power and privilege that exist in the UK, plus you have to pay for your health care, there’s no minimum wage, and a much less generous pension and social security systems. For those reasons, you’ll find a lot more people who share your wish to blame the ills of their life on other people.

And the world has ended up with Trump cos the democrats had to stick with a clearly demented candidate due to their own class system. The establishment can rarely be challenged.

I'm pretty sure trump would be richer if he'd put his investment into an index fund, so goodness knows what that tells us about the meritocracy and cream rising to the top nature of the US:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-official-trump-would-be-richer-if-he-had-just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/

You do you.

It rather depends who you are. Are you white, university educated, Christian? Are you past childbearing age and are your children?

How old are you? Does your age begin with the number 1?

Issues, much?

It would be quicker and easier to move to Ireland in the north they have amazing education and still have the nhs

Yank here. The U.S. has economic classes, but my sense is that it’s very different from Britain. The super rich flaunt it, but most people I consider very well off drive sensible Japanese cars and shop in warehouse clubs.

Per capita income is higher here because the economy is less regulated and more dynamic. The country is vastly larger and more diverse geographically. Hence the bigger houses.

Since you’ve never been here, come and visit. May and June are lovely and you can buy a rail pass and travel all over.

Happy to answer questions.

Or you could try Luton.

Is America dominated by Oxbridge people too?

Oh come off it. Are you taking a break from your homework?

There’s no downside to giving it a go. If you can afford to live in a “nice” part of the country, and are well educated, you’ll be fine. I have friends in La Jolla and Marin County, Ca and others in Scarsdale and NYC and they’re all high earning professionals, with good healthcare with good standards of living. Not much in the way of annual leave but most of them think it’s a small price to pay.

There is much greater wealth disparity there than in the UK though. I’d rather be poor in the UK than in the US, any day of the week.

I’ve never met one, so that would be a ‘no’.

At least Trump’s wealth or that of the Kardashian’s isn’t offensive to me because it just feels different - it doesn’t feel as layered and it doesn’t make them act as entitled or snobbish.

Yes Trump is lovely. Off you pop and don't come back.

Are you very bitter about not getting into Oxbridge by any chance?

Yeah this. It might not be Oxford educated people but it’s Harvard or Yale or generations of landowners, oil families, tech families, lawyer and doctor families …. There is wealth, privilege, snobbery, country club cliques, in any nation. The disparity is particularly obvious in countries like the US where one illness can leave you bankrupt and homeless.

good luck.

Ha ha ha…you are obviously tone deaf to the state of things at the moment. The US will suit you down to the ground! Bye.

What’s your job? It’s not that easy to get in.

I suspect the OP doesn't have a job and is supposed to be revising for their A levels..

This is an embarrassingly ignorant response to someone who has taken the time to offer you genuine insight into American class culture - then for you to just spew your Oxbridge bs.
Troll better 😘.

OP has US citizenship so can move easily if she/he wants.