My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

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When was the last time you had a home visit? Is this a way of managing the " problem" by them taking clinics there? Is it a way of hiding this issue? I understood they did not have access to the NHS yet I see massive bags of medicine labelled for this hotel too at the dispensary. We wait about 6-7 weeks for a routine appointment.

Ok
Where do you even start with this rant?
You've posted a random photo of a hotel presumably in England. No link, no nothing.
What's your source? Your friend's best neighbour's Dad's dog?
Where are you seeing "massive bags of medicine?"
If you work at a dispensary and this is true, is there not some kind of patient confidentiality you should be adhering to?

I've had to see my GP and local hospital a lot lately this last year. I agree, the NHS waiting times seem to be getting a lot better. They're obviously still not brilliant, but they seem to be going the right way.
I'll ring up and get straight through as opposed to being 30th in the queue for an appointment for example.
Plus they chase me with results and appointments to the extent I'm thinking "what now?" 😁

Well you played to the goad, food and drink.

Do asylum seekers only come from countries in which people are specifically targetted for their political allegiance? Or do asylum seekers also come from countries in which bombs are dropped?

The hotel in OP's post is Cisswood House, Horsham. It used to be an upmarket country club type place, a popular wedding venue, but went bust in 2022. The following year it was converted as temporary accommodation for asylum seekers; locals working there said it was 'unrecognisable' as a luxury venue it had been.

There have been multiple rowdy protests outside the hotel. Horsham's MP called for calm, saying "I would urge everyone to please have consideration that these are young children and families". OP and others spitting venom about "these men", asking why they aren't women and children, are clearly wrong.

Then it's an opportunity to validate her feelings, while correcting misinformation or incorrect beliefs. Personally, I just don't think that accusing people of racism (especially if it's xenophobia, often born out of understandable concerns), and dismissing them wholesale as angry racists, actually helps your argument.

Yes. If my country is in a bad enough state that my family want to flee it and seek asylum, then staying put without my husband to be blown up, raped, go through deprivations, or other such things, doesn't sound better than braving the unknown together in order to get to Britain.

Not sure what your point is, as it doesn’t address mine.

@LittleMi55Nobody so your husband is retired but pays £79 per week NI. Aye right.

If he is over state pension age he is exempt from paying NI if he still works. If he is under state pension age but living off a private pension or savings/investments then he does not pay NI as it is not levied on pensions or savings. If he is "retired", under state pension age but still working and is paid enough to pay nearly £300 month iin NI then he is not exactly retired is he?

Both, obviously. Or from countries where they’re persecuted for their sexuality, or their religious beliefs or a host of other reasons.

They often don’t leave the women at home, they’ll get to a refugee camp where the women and children will stay while waiting to be brought over. They’re still risky places, with rapes and theft but I’m guessing most mothers would rather risk that than trek over mountains for weeks, sleeping out in freezing temperatures then cross the channel in a paddling pool with a 6 month old and two toddlers.

I am getting images of big cartoon sacks of medication, but instead of ‘swag’, they say ‘TABLETS FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS’.

I recommend reading first-hand accounts of people’s journeys to the UK from places like Afghanistan. Really brings it to life.

Many are desperate, but also many do not really understand the horrors of the journey they are about to undertake. Like many things, you can convince yourself it will be ok, worth it etc. and then the reality is so different.

Perhaps for those with very young children or babies, yes. But older children (5 and up)? I'd prefer to risk it, I think.

You think? But until you’re in that situation you don’t know. These people have lived this experience and this is what they decided is best. But of course that misconstrued by people who then intimate it’s because they don’t love their children and families like “we” do. They’re bad people only looking after themselves etc.

When in fact they’re just people trying to do their best in an absolutely shit situation.

They’re being dehumanised, if you get the opportunity visit Auschwitz it’ll show you how dehumanising others leads to dreadful awful things.

I can't see the original article. Is there one? If it's the Mail, don't bother.

Now what on earth makes you think it’s a Daily Mail type article 🤔

Erhmmm “these men” & badly veiled racism… I think you’re getting the replies you deserve

Can't think.....😂

You asked a question, "Would you want your husband to take you and your children to an unknown place, where you don’t know how it’s going to be?" and I answered yes to that particular question, framed in that way.

I also feel that I would rather brave a frightening, hard journey with my husband if my children weren't toddlers/babies, than remain behind alone. I'm speaking about my personal feelings, not making a judgement on those who choose differently.

(I'll also never be able to afford to visit Auschwitz. But I don't think that precludes me being well informed.)

You used the terms “perhaps” and “think” hardly, yes I would without a second thought. That’s what I was relating too.

People are saying would you put a child in a dinghy to make the dangerous journey across the channel. I don’t understand why anyone who had gone through many safe countries including France would choose to put themselves in such a dangerous position, just to get to Britain. I’m sure many other countries offer as many opportunities as we do (and with better weather). Why would you leave your loved ones in a desperate situation when you could all travel together to a closer safe country?.

You're mentioning a concentration camp? I suspect you don't even see the irony in this given situation. The dehumanisation of Jews was on an unprecedented and immeasurable scale.

Because as you can see from the posts on this thread, the UK is a soft touch.