cause he is Jewish

[Carycach4]

Apologies cant see a thread about this.
Staff at Bristol Brunel academy blocked a visit by Damien Egan, their local MP because he is Jewish. Clear case of antisemitism. AIBU to thinking that headteacher and those driving this decision should be sacked and reported to the Teacher Regulation Agency?
(Apologies thread title isnt correct, but i can't edit it)

Unbelievably blatant anti-semitism on this thread. What the hell is wrong with some of you? Shame on you.

• A person happening to be Jewish does not mean they "support genocide"
• A person supporting the safe existence of a Jewish state also does not mean they "support genocide"
• A person thinking that Israel and its citizens should be allowed to exist safely as a sovereign nation does not mean they "support genocide"
• All Israelis are not Netanyahu supporters and should not be held responsible for his specific actions or be assumed to share all his views.
• Inidividual Jews are not responsible for the actions of the Israeli government, any more than a Muslim person anywhere in the world is personally responsible for the actions of specific Muslim governments around the world.
• Individual Israelis are not responsible for the actions of the Israeli government, any more than you are responsible personally for the actions of the UK government at any point in history or now.
• The Friends of Israel are not necessarily supportive of all the current actions of the present Israeli government, and they are not responsible for any of those government policies, since they don't make them.
• All Jewish people are not Israelis
• All Israelis are not "supporters of genocide". That is an unevidenced and frankly racist smear.
• The question of whether the actions and war in Gaza could accurately described as "genocide' in any case is hugely controversial. You know this. The Holocaust WAS unquestionably genocide. It specifically targeted Jewish people for being Jews in an attempt to eradicate them as an ethnicity. This was industrialised by a government. You might argue that Hamas supporters are genocidal in intent, given they use the same language about eradicating and killing Jews specifically, as a race, as Hitler did. The killings of Muslims during the Balkan wars were also unquestionably genocidal in intent. But are retaliatory bombing campaigns, however brutal, of Gaza, different in some material way to other horrific bombing campaigns in other wars that lead to huge loss of life? Are they actually designed to rid the world of Palestinians per se ? Was the intent of the bombing of Hiroshima to rid the world of Japanese people, say, or did it have another purpose? What about the British bombing of Dresden, which caused immense loss of life and suffering? Was the intent specifically to eradicate Germans and the Aryan race or something else?
• "Zionist" just means supporter of the existence of the state of Israel. If you are using it as a way to demonise all Israelis and all Jews to make false claims about their views, then yes, you are a racist and anti semite.
• Threatening to protest a UK Labour MP at a school on the basis he is Jewish is appalling anti semitism. those doing so are blaming all Jewish people for the current actions of a government which they are not responsible for. What do you think the "protest" will achieve? What is it designed to do? Does the "right to protest" include inciting racial hatred?
• Threatening to protest a UK Labour MP at a school on the basis he is a Friend of Israel is also anti semitism. Because, as above, "Israel" and "Israelis" are not synonymous with the actions of a current government.
• There is no evidence whatsoever that he "supports genocide" as you claim.
• He is also not going to the school to talk about Israel or his poltical views. Protesting his presence on the basis of what a bunch of easily led staff members believe, without evidence, about his views on the basis he is Jewish is antisemitic and inappropriately political of them. It is performative racism. No better than if Tommy Robinson and the like decided to protest Sadiq Khan speaking at a school about life as London mayor solely on the basis he is Muslim. Which is what this reminds me of, frankly.

I vote YABU OP and disingenuous too.

OK, more semantics as par on the antisemitic threads.

Eh? Because they were doing Hasbara, obviously.

Very disingenuous to suggest a serving MP in this country should be prevented from attending a local school to talk about this work as an MP, purely because some overly-controlling activists disapprove of his views and have decided they get to decide what he can and can't do.

Isn't it just!

More victim-playing, as par on the Israel threads.

Doing what? Having an opinion different to yours on a forum

So depressingly predictable.

Jews being held to account for what other Jews thousands of miles away do.

Many not batting a eyelid at the problem.

The Jewish man is the victim here, nobody else.

I want to know what milk has got to do with all this

This should be pinned at the top of any threads involving antisemitism.

The CITME threads on this site are usually a cesspit of anti-semitism, and it seems this thread is going the same way.

Yes predictability and always in the 80:20 poll. I suppose the 20 per cent are not hiding their bigotry.

At least 80% are yanbu tg even if the thread looks the opposite.

Except this isn't CITME. Every single time a thread discussing antisemitism starts, it's derailed.

And I am disgusted by people denying the atrocities committed by hamas

That's good to know, I mostly don't have the stomach to read them now, such is the disgusting level of anti-semitism so vehemently espoused on them.

So you don't think that Jewish people can be victims of blatant racism? Or that no complaint about the anti-semitism of you and others who like to blame all Jewish people for the actions of a current Israeli government can be justified because "all Jews just like play the victim" right? Do you think Hitler had a point too?

Fucking hell. Your lazy racism and the way you treat anything about Jews or Israel as a 'special case' is very telling. How are you any different from the likes of Tommy Robinson supporters who'd protest Sadiq Khan being Mayor on the sole basis he's Muslim? And do you think we should all as individuals be righteously held responsible and collectively punished for the actions of any current or previous British governments?

Yes, there are those who cannot and will not ever permit there to be an acknowledgment of the horrendous antisemitism Jews are suffering. That must not be allowed to stand.

I find the CITME threads are unpleasant to read because of how many posters spend their time trying to justify a genocide and murder of Palestinians.

Maybe ... at least we have the benefit on this thread of a range of different voices. CITME tends to be the same voices over and over again because most sensible people stay away from the CITME board (I'm not sensible😜).

The good thing about discussions on AIBU is that despite how it appears from the posts, we can see that 80% of MNs reading this thread agree that this Jewish MP shouldn't have been blocked from giving a talk at the school on being an MP.

@Carycach4 if you want the title edited, you have to report your own post using the 3 dots on the top right hand corner and ask the mods to edit it for you which I'm sure they would).

Thanks for clarifying that Betty. We are in the minority in supporting Jewish victimisation x

@hihelenhi excellent post 14.28 thank you

The Head has capitulated to those making threats.