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cause he is Jewish

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Carycach4 · 13/01/2026 10:34

Apologies cant see a thread about this.
Staff at Bristol Brunel academy blocked a visit by Damien Egan, their local MP because he is Jewish. Clear case of antisemitism. AIBU to thinking that headteacher and those driving this decision should be sacked and reported to the Teacher Regulation Agency?
(Apologies thread title isnt correct, but i can't edit it)

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HeadyLamarr · 13/01/2026 13:51

Karmakamelion · 13/01/2026 13:02

Why shouldn't he be pro Israel. Seems ok to be pro hamas?

Anyone who is pro-Netanyahu or pro-Hamas needs a long look at themselves. Both are hateful extremists who put their own population at risk by pursuing a path of violence.

I am pro Israeli and pro Palestinian. The people living through this nightmare deserve our compassion and support. Their murderous leadership do not.

zanahoria · 13/01/2026 13:51

Gjill · 13/01/2026 13:48

Firstly, it’s not simply about race. You could be a Jewish convert.

Secondly, there is an obvious and unique reason why Israel was set up with immigration rules as they are. It’s disingenuous and yes, racist, to deny that.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

It absurd really. Jews are persecuted for centuries and eventually 1/3 of them are murdered. A Jewish state is set up to provide a safe place for those that remain. But it’s the Jewish state that’s racist, because it lets in Jews.

So you are saying it is not about race but racist to deny it?

SummerOctopus · 13/01/2026 13:51

What is a Kefir? Are some of you talking about Keffiyyahs?

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 13:53

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Gjill · 13/01/2026 13:54

zanahoria · 13/01/2026 13:51

So you are saying it is not about race but racist to deny it?

I don’t know whether you’re asking in good faith so I’ll hold fire on answering.

zanahoria · 13/01/2026 13:55

Gjill · 13/01/2026 13:54

I don’t know whether you’re asking in good faith so I’ll hold fire on answering.

It is a bit rich talking about good faith when you just smeared me as an anti-semite

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:03

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Who is the Hasbarist you refer to? Do you have a term for your beliefs? Palestinians decided on their own democracy and look at well that turned out.

dairydebris · 13/01/2026 14:06

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:03

Who is the Hasbarist you refer to? Do you have a term for your beliefs? Palestinians decided on their own democracy and look at well that turned out.

Woeful Palestinian leadership is always Israel's fault.

HaimishaPickle · 13/01/2026 14:08

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 13:35

Israel’s non-Jewish citizen population has equal legal rights in theory, though in practice, they suffer a lot of discrimination and unequal access to services. E.g. in a lot of cases train lines connect Jewish towns to the major cities, while skipping Palestinian towns, depriving Palestinians of equal access to educational and employment opportunities.

The population of Palestinians in the West Bank, however, who live under Israeli occupation and control but do not hold Israeli citizenship - despite the evergrowing number of Israeli Jewish settlements in their midst - most certainly do not have equal rights.

But Palestinians in the West Bank are Palestinian citizens in Palestinian territory (whether occupied territory or not)- they're not Israeli citizens. They're governed by the Palestinian Authority.

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:12

HaimishaPickle · 13/01/2026 14:08

But Palestinians in the West Bank are Palestinian citizens in Palestinian territory (whether occupied territory or not)- they're not Israeli citizens. They're governed by the Palestinian Authority.

And? Their land has been functionally annexed by the Israeli government, they are being continually dispossessed and forced into smaller and smaller sections of the West Bank, and they do not have equal rights to the Israeli citizens who live in their midst. That is Bantustanisation. That is apartheid.

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:14

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:03

Who is the Hasbarist you refer to? Do you have a term for your beliefs? Palestinians decided on their own democracy and look at well that turned out.

You are the Hasbarist, as you well know. As for my own views, I support Israel’s existence within its 1948 borders, but oppose the occupation of the West Bank. I also don’t believe that today’s Palestinians deserve to suffer oppression forever because of the errors of their grandparents. That is called collective punishment.

Minjou · 13/01/2026 14:15

Is is because he's Jewish, or is it because he openly supports genocide?

Also I don't think wearing a scarf can ever be threatening.

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:21

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:14

You are the Hasbarist, as you well know. As for my own views, I support Israel’s existence within its 1948 borders, but oppose the occupation of the West Bank. I also don’t believe that today’s Palestinians deserve to suffer oppression forever because of the errors of their grandparents. That is called collective punishment.

So again, what is YOUR technical term?

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:21

Minjou · 13/01/2026 14:15

Is is because he's Jewish, or is it because he openly supports genocide?

Also I don't think wearing a scarf can ever be threatening.

It's not just any scarf but you know that.

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:23

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:21

So again, what is YOUR technical term?

Weird question but I guess my views generally align with Liberal Zionism.

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:24

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:12

And? Their land has been functionally annexed by the Israeli government, they are being continually dispossessed and forced into smaller and smaller sections of the West Bank, and they do not have equal rights to the Israeli citizens who live in their midst. That is Bantustanisation. That is apartheid.

Israelis were dispossessed of their lives in the most brural manner on 7th October. Anyway, as much as this inevitably transcended into the war in Gaza, none of it is relevant to the MP in question.

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:25

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:23

Weird question but I guess my views generally align with Liberal Zionism.

It's not a weird question at all given you were so quick to call Hasbra. I found that quite telling on this thread. Is the MP representing his local constituency or Israel?

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:25

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:24

Israelis were dispossessed of their lives in the most brural manner on 7th October. Anyway, as much as this inevitably transcended into the war in Gaza, none of it is relevant to the MP in question.

And tens of thousands more Palestinians have been brutally dispossessed of their lives in the two years since - what’s your point? Besides, the thread had stopped being predominantly about that MP long before I got involved.

dairydebris · 13/01/2026 14:26

Minjou · 13/01/2026 14:15

Is is because he's Jewish, or is it because he openly supports genocide?

Also I don't think wearing a scarf can ever be threatening.

Please do point out where he openly says- 'I support genocide'?

As it stands, his opinion is actually shared by the UK government of which he is a part, that Israels actions in Gaza do not amount to genocide.

Do you think every single teacher at that school thinks its genocide? Or perhaps we dont know their opinions because they are there to teach? Should we ban all teachers who believe its not genocide too? In case someone protests outside the school? Bit of a slippery slope dont you think?

Difficult questions.

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:26

Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:25

It's not a weird question at all given you were so quick to call Hasbra. I found that quite telling on this thread. Is the MP representing his local constituency or Israel?

I was calling you (and other posters on this thread) a Hasbarist, not him.

BonneMamanAbricot · 13/01/2026 14:27

Minjou · 13/01/2026 14:15

Is is because he's Jewish, or is it because he openly supports genocide?

Also I don't think wearing a scarf can ever be threatening.

  1. It's not a genocide and never has been. If Israel had wanted to commit genocide in Gaza they would have achieved that in a matter of days. That is simply an unfounded DARVO accusation used to silence and intimidate.
  2. Are you really trying to make an argument this pathetic? You know exactly why they would be wearing them and what they symbolise. A swastika is just a couple of lines, don't know how that could be threatening, right?
Kingscallops · 13/01/2026 14:27

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:25

And tens of thousands more Palestinians have been brutally dispossessed of their lives in the two years since - what’s your point? Besides, the thread had stopped being predominantly about that MP long before I got involved.

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We already know the numbers of the war's fatalities. Hamas were so keen to update.

LittleMG · 13/01/2026 14:27

It’s not because he’s Jewish it’s because he supports a country that has and continues to kill thousands of innocent people including children. Very disingenuous to claim it’s because he’s Jewish.

EasternStandard · 13/01/2026 14:28

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:26

I was calling you (and other posters on this thread) a Hasbarist, not him.

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Why the accusation to the pp?

HaimishaPickle · 13/01/2026 14:28

Flickaflock · 13/01/2026 14:12

And? Their land has been functionally annexed by the Israeli government, they are being continually dispossessed and forced into smaller and smaller sections of the West Bank, and they do not have equal rights to the Israeli citizens who live in their midst. That is Bantustanisation. That is apartheid.

Because they have two separate governments- Israeli and Palestinian- so no, they don't have equal rights to the Israeli citizens.
Maybe the Palestinians should expect more and petition the PA for better rights, investment in Palestinian business, farming, building and education, better advocacy and training the PSS to defend their own citizens and tackle endemic corruption rather than contributing to their oppression, instead of the PA funnelling millions into terrorism, pay for slay and into their own pockets.

I didn't say it was right or fair but you seem to be very mixed up about what constitutes government, citizenship, rights and apartheid.