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AIBU to worry my nearly 5yo only wants to do fun stuff?

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LeopardSnow · 11/01/2026 15:46

I’m struggling to work out whether my nearly five year old’s strong focus on his own enjoyment and avoidance of anything boring or effortful is normal for his age, or something we should be actively addressing.

My son is nearly five. He’s bright, extremely active, curious, chatty and cheeky. He can also be quite hard work. If anyone has read the Just William books, that’s basically him / who he will probably be in a couple of years. He’s hugely motivated by things that interest him and will put loads of energy and focus into them. He can also do long stretches of independent pretend play, sometimes up to an hour. He loves nature, science and learning about things that genuinely motivate him. Loves stories and making up games.

But…. ANYTHING he sees as boring, difficult or like work or that is not focused on him is a real struggle.

Examples of what I mean:

  • He’ll be full of energy at the park but as soon as it’s time to walk home (5mins) is mysteriously exhausted and starts wheedling for a piggyback.
  • He makes little effort to dress himself and if we insist will usually pay no attention and end up with everything on wrong and insist we help him, if we do help him he will go floppy so we end up physically moving his limbs into sleeves which allows him to carry on chatting or playing. He definitely can dress himself as he does it at school for PE etc, he would just rather not.
  • He finds errands, and things like popping to the shops boring and will whine or get cross when we say what the plan is, then kick off or make trouble
  • He moans about phonics or maths practice (5 minutes) although he is capable when he concentrates, unless it’s turned into a game.
  • Won’t tidy toys unless we make a “threat” e.g. cannot go to the park until toys are tidy, or turn it into a game - beat the clock.
  • If we do something that isn’t about him, like talking to each other or reading for a few minutes, or focusing on his younger sister he will sometimes interrupt or kick off to get attention.

For context, he has a little sister who he is sometimes lovely too, limited screen time - a low intensity programme for about half an hour a day and doesn’t even know what YouTube is or how to work a phone screen, we read a lot, he has a Yoto, and we do crafts and cooking and playing together, garden play, time alone with his Lego and animals and trips to the park and library.

What I am trying to work out is whether this level of self centredness and resistance to effort / anything that is not fun or about his own interests is typical at this age, or whether we should be doing more to build his tolerance for things that are not fun or about him?

I don’t expect a four year old to be selfless or driven, but real life - including lots of childhood involves boredom, effort, waiting and letting other people have attention, and I don’t want to raise someone who can only cope if everything is entertaining or about him and who shirks work / lets future partners carry the load.

Is this a normal developmental phase, a spirited child, or something we should gently push back on more? Any tips from those with older children on how this played out?

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GalaxyJam · 11/01/2026 19:08

icygrounds · 11/01/2026 19:04

I love ds to bits but I am so grateful I had a second to know it isn’t my shocking parenting 😂

I do wonder sometimes if ds does have adhd … it’s troubling me a bit at the moment. I don’t think he does: DH reckons ds is very similar to how he was which doesn’t altogether reassure me I must say! Confused Grin

But then DH’s brother was the calm, placid child who grew to be a very withdrawn and unhappy teen while DH was filled with fun and devil may care … you just can’t predict.

I actually think DD2 will do very well in life due to her ‘selfishness’. It has taken me until I’m 40 to start saying no to things I don’t actually want to do (it’s my New Years Resolution this year to JUST SAY NO), rather than do what other people want/expect of me all the time, and she’s learned it already 😂. She is very similar to my SIL who has done excellently and is a very happy and fulfilled adult.

icygrounds · 11/01/2026 19:09

DaisyChain505 · 11/01/2026 19:07

It sounds like you’re too soft on him and he knows he can get away with what he wants to do or not do.

He needs to start learning that fun stuff comes as a reward and we have to do as we’re told and do the boing stuff to get rewards.

“DS you can’t have your TV time this evening until you’ve put those toys away in your bedroom like Mummy asked.”

“If you’re not going to get yourself changed that mean we’re not going to be able to go to the park.”

That’s literally what the OP does. Look

Won’t tidy toys unless we make a “threat” e.g. cannot go to the park until toys are tidy, or turn it into a game - beat the clock.

icygrounds · 11/01/2026 19:10

GalaxyJam · 11/01/2026 19:08

I actually think DD2 will do very well in life due to her ‘selfishness’. It has taken me until I’m 40 to start saying no to things I don’t actually want to do (it’s my New Years Resolution this year to JUST SAY NO), rather than do what other people want/expect of me all the time, and she’s learned it already 😂. She is very similar to my SIL who has done excellently and is a very happy and fulfilled adult.

Yes, I think my dd has a milder and calmer temperament than ds but she lets frustrations build up, which I do too!

Nosleepforthismum · 11/01/2026 19:14

AleaEim · 11/01/2026 17:28

No OP, I don’t think this is that normal tbh. He should be able to dress himself surely? My 12 month old is even shown signs of trying to dress herself.

whats he like in school? What do teachers say?

Edited

Come back in a couple of years and let us know how getting dressed in the morning is going Grin

The OP said he’s perfectly capable of getting dressed but choosing not to. My 4 year old is the same and wants mummy to do it all even though he’s fine doing it at preschool.

Mumofoneandone · 11/01/2026 19:21

Sounds like my son ...... he's now 8!!!
We are having him tested for dyslexia, as we think that's some of the issue....
Also read kate Silverstone there's still no such thing as naughty. Really helps you to understand children's behaviour!

Haveyouanyjam · 11/01/2026 21:37

I think this is normal for age, but as some have said, if it doesn’t change as he gets older and has more self awareness/concept of time, it may be ADHD traits. DSS is still like this, no intrinsic motivation for any non preferred task so there has to be a motivation or consequence. He’s almost 11.

DD is 4 and happy to do phonics but that’s because she currently finds it fun and is good at it and enjoys the praise. Hates getting dressed though.

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