Iranians

[pandowo]

I’m rooting for you !!! Anyone else want to show their support ?

Yes you're right, everyone with a different opinion or perspective to you must be sponsored by a foreign state.

Of course there are two parts to any regime change.

1. Removing the old government.
2. What comes next.

Getting part (2) right is harder, and will always be hard even when all the stars align.

But it's a guaranteed disaster if there are outside forces which intervene in part (1)... but also try to implement ideas in part (2) which don't align with what the country wants.

I know this is all obvious, but I don't think we can talk about "intervention" being good or bad in and of itself, without considering the detail of the intervention.

I am fully in support of Iranians. Dds dad is persian. Very sad.

So you don’t think Israel should be opposed in any way?

Eh?

The problem with this view is the assumption that what is happening in Iran can happen in a perfect vacuum with no outside influence if the US stays away, but unfortunately that's not how it works and the likes of Russia, China etc are already present hustling for influence and the issue is they support the regime so yes we need intervention. Unfortunately countries like the UK have no guts or influence on the world stage to do anything about it. You also have regional powers in the middle east also fighting for their interests so it requires a power to hold everyone in line. This narrative that if the US goes away everything will be perfect is not true, it will actually get worse.

And life in Iran with US support and investment before the revolution was way better than what we have in Iran now.

And as I said after the regime falls significant investment will be required to rebuild the country, is the UK willing to pay? Or do we just fold our arms and watch as different factions start a civil war for control of Iran after the regime falls because I can guarantee you that there will always be different factions with different interests in the country who want different things. It's not this perfect situation where the regime falls and all Iranians align and everything turns out perfectly.

And as I also said the descendant of the Shah who has a claim to lead us in the US as are many Iranians who fled so.

Just to give a little insight into what in talking about and there are more factions involved here and then you have the internal divisions and factions so you can see how quickly things can descend I to chaos after the regime falls without a strong central power to keep everyone in line.

Does it mean the US will be perfect? Hell no but I assure you it's way better than the alternative.
Despite your misgivings about the US, they have splayed a very significant role in pushing relative peace in Europe, before US intervention when they were more isolationist, there were way more wars in Europe and we had 2 world wars during periods of US isolationist policies. And again the US stepping away means China stepping in.

The problem with this view is the assumption that what is happening in Iran can happen in a perfect vacuum with no outside influence if the US stays away, but unfortunately that's not how it works and the likes of Russia, China etc are already present hustling for influence and the issue is they support the regime so yes we need intervention.

Yes. US involvement is not ideal, but better than Putin. Iran, if the revolution succeeds, will be in a very very precarious position, like a chicken surrounded by hyenas. It’s utterly naive to think they won’t need support from other democracies.

Iraq and Afghanistan are not culturally analogous to Iran.

The U.S did fuck up with Iran before, however. That said, the geopolitical situation has changed significantly since the imposition of the autocratic Shah, and the approach here is, so far, is a wiser one. The revolution, and a fledgling democratic country that emerges from it, will need the support of powerful allies, and a powerful ally that is also a neighbor would be extremely valuable. Israel and the U.S are the best options for Iran.

People always quote Iraq. Iraq is nothing like Iran, very different socially, muslim countries majority aren’t interchangeable. May as well say malaysia is the same as pakistan, clearly nonsense. Plus the Iranian people themselves are trying to get rid of their government.

People who would be harmed by the fall of the regime
Hamas
hezbollah
houthis
gcc countries

people who would benefit
Iranians!!!
the west generally (there were like 20 active terror plots in the Uk originating form Iran in 2024)
any country that has a terror org funded by iran squatting in their midst (lebanon, gaza, yemen, iraq)

There are estmates of 20’000 dead civilians floating aroun, this was done wothin the last 2 weeks! People were screaming about a genocide in Gaza with maybe 60-70 thousand fatalities including combatants over a 2 year period. How in earth can people who claim to be anti-genocide be absolutely fine with the Iranian government staying in place.

Also not everything is about Israel. Iranians are perfectly capable of not wanting to live under a theocratic oppressive regime without the Israelis or americans telling them they don’t like it. It’s the worst kind of racist third worldism. Opposition for oppositions sake, no real feeling for the victims of this regime.

I would ask that those who seem to be against the regime in Iran falling this. Do you not care about the appalling way women are being treated in Iran at present? Would you want to live in their world?

I can imagine what will come is Iran will have a puppet from US/Israel in place by next year. They will be forced to take all of the Palestinians from Gaza so Israel and Trump can divvy up the land for their strip clubs, mansions and casinos.

This is just unhinged, protesters last week were holding up signs asking americans for help. Iranians were literally cheering Israelis warplanes on in the 12 day war, thats how much they hate their government. Follow some Iranians, the ones who are managing to publish footage from Iran and then think about why Iranians may hate their government so much.

Reporting on footage claiming to be filmed inside a morgue. One of the body bags is marked as holding a 16-year-old, and the audio apparently mentions an area for women's bodies.

Tehran morgue videos show the brutality of Iran's crackdown on protesters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3xpyvxzyo
HRANA, which has been tracking the death toll since the unrest began, has reported that 2,403 protesters, 147 people affiliated with the government, nine civilians and 12 children have been killed so far.

Unlikely. It is far more beneficial to both to have a stable Iran as a partner as opposed to a puppet. Imposing a regime is what led to the Ayatollahs in the first place, so what they won’t want to do is risk a repeat. IMO this precisely why the U.S haven’t already gone in all guns proverbially blazing.

Persians are not Arabs, and there is no natural affinity with Palestinians be it ethnically, culturally, or religiously. In addition, a fledgling secular and democratic country is not going to align itself with Hamas, not after getting rid of their own hardline theocracy.

Culturally, Persians and Jews have a history of friendship that goes back centuries, and the two tend to regard each other well, despite the government. They are, as peoples, more natural bedfellows. Do not think that the U.S and Israel capitalizing on this means that it isn’t also genuine popular sentiment.

Evil bastard.

I hope their deaths are not in vain and this regime is toppled once and for all.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckglee733wno

I have been married to an Iranian woman for thirty five years. What has been happening over the past three weeks in Iran is horrific. I really cannot understand anyone in the UK defending the regime over what is happening there, but they are, making stupid, uninformed remarks, alleging that most Iranians are backing the regime. We haven't heard from our relatives in Iran for over two weeks. Can't people see, that if the regime was innocent, they wouldn't need to completely shut down the internet and other communications? I want to see this regime gone, totally dismantled, but I don't want to see a puppet regime in its place. The Iranian people do not have weapons, they can't fight back, Iran is not like the US, where every other person has guns. Western powers have the ability to carry out surgical strikes on Iran, which is what they should do.

I’m rooting for them too.
May be they successful very soon.

It’s so sad to see the regime’s violent response. Not just during but after.

They need the military. I don’t believe a revolution has ever been successful without the military also revolting and supporting the revolution. The military in Iran is pro-regime.

Unfortunately, there exists a contingent of so-called progressives who are pro the regime because it’s anti-Israel, and they see it as anti-imperialist. They’re also pushing the narrative that the protests don’t reflect genuine sentiment within the country, but that’s it’s all a Mossad operation.

Just generally you see posters on here who sound relieved Iranians didn’t succeed. It’s grim frankly and I think they’re lower than anything to give so little thought to women and everyone there.

It's so sad what's happening there.

I was surprised at first at the lack of coverage and then at the lack of support, but I suppose for many it's a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

So many dead just for wanting basic freedom.

I have been utterly disgusted with the comments on other forums/blogs, who seem to think that the regime are acting appropriately, to put down what is obviously (their words) Israeli/US stooges. They really think that Iranian people are being armed by the US/Israel and being given weapons by them, which is absolutely ludicrous. They believe that the majority of Iranians are pro regime, which means that they are totally ignoring all the other demonstrations which have happened in the past. If the people are pro regime, then why has the regime shut down the internet and cut itself off from the rest of the World?

A welcome update

https://www.itv.com/news/2026-02-01/erfan-soltani-iranian-protester-released-after-death-penalty-threats

Thank goodness! I'm still living in hope that the regime will fall. It can't happen soon enough.