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To think baby change facilities should just be for that?

86 replies

rustyflame · 09/01/2026 10:59

Just returned from a supermarket, baby needed changing so I popped to the baby change, it was locked, so I waited… and waited for around 15 minutes.

I just assumed someone may be feeding their baby or something so I just patiently waited until the door opened and out walked a middle aged man who had absolutely stunk the place out so I gagged as I walked in and had to change baby in the stench he’d left behind.
I couldn’t go anywhere else and I really had to change the baby.
The baby change is situated next to the gents but he obviously wanted the privacy of the baby change which he occupied for at least 15 minutes and however long before I arrived.

OP posts:
WhatAreYouDoingSundayBaby · 09/01/2026 15:39

Meadowfinch · 09/01/2026 11:15

I guess it depends on space. Our tesco has combined baby change/disabled toilet.

A baby change with just a table, wash basin and a bin would work and be in much less demand.

This is super annoying when you have a baby with you and need the toilet though. I hate baby changes with no toilet.

Avantiagain · 09/01/2026 15:47

"But what if the disabled toilet is in use? Sometimes people really can’t wait. Do you really begrudge someone having a poo if they can’t hold it in?"

And if it is due to a disability then using the loo in the baby change is a reasonable adjustment anyway.

rustyflame · 09/01/2026 16:01

RandomTyping · 09/01/2026 15:09

So there is a toilet in there? But you think it's specifically a toilet only for people who are also in there changing babies' nappies? Or for particularly advanced babies?

Well yes because it says baby change on the door with an illustration.
The disabled toilet says disabled with an illustration.
The ladies says ladies with an illustration.
The gents says gents with an illustration.

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rustyflame · 09/01/2026 16:14

There’s toilets in the gents but that doesn’t mean I would use them if the ladies were occupied, I’d be expected to queue.
There is quite often a queue for the ladies in the town but not for the gents.

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JuliesName · 09/01/2026 16:31

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 09/01/2026 15:03

So you believe that people with certain disabilities should be socially housebound?

Yes, it's deeply unpleasant for the cleaners and for anybody else using the toilet after her; but don't you think that she must have been mortified and felt phenomenally embarrassed? And not just on this one occasion but maybe every single time she has to use the toilet when away from her home? Imagine having to dash out ashamed past the people in the queue every time you leave a cubicle; and although she obviously should tell the staff about it and not just leave it like that, can you imagine how that would play out for her in real life, the feeling of extreme shame at having to do that every time?

There's invariably going to be an issue or condition at play - whether physical, mentally or both. Nobody is leaving a toilet like that just for fun.

People who poo on the wall and ceilings should clean up after themselves! I can't even think of what disability would cause that, when we all know its actually just disgusting people rather than a disability.

That is NOT fair on a cleaner, or anyone else to leave.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 09/01/2026 16:50

Yes, yes the man may have had a hidden disability and the disabled loo might have been occupied and he might have needed to go urgently, but realistically he was probably just an entitled shit.

None of us have any idea either way, though, do we? People are assuming the worst of him on here, without any knowledge. Even OP was trying to shame him for the fact that his poo stinks, as if that's somehow unique to him - like baby change areas somehow don't also stink if the baby has had a poonami.

He may have been a horrible entitled person and, with no other reason, decided to use the baby change deliberately to make life harder for a parent - more likely a mum. Then again, the only cubicle in the men's and/or the disabled toilet could have been out of order and/or occupied and a staff member told him to use the toilet in the baby change which, if he wasn't a father of a very young child himself, he probably wouldn't even have known contained a toilet.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 09/01/2026 16:59

JuliesName · 09/01/2026 16:31

People who poo on the wall and ceilings should clean up after themselves! I can't even think of what disability would cause that, when we all know its actually just disgusting people rather than a disability.

That is NOT fair on a cleaner, or anyone else to leave.

I agree that it's not fair on a cleaner or other user; but you also can't just dismiss the possibility of a physical or mental disability, just because it isn't one that you're personally experienced in.

Even if somebody didn't give a stuff for anybody else except themselves, do you think they personally would want to be in a toilet cubicle with poo smeared all around it? And would they want to touch the poo (even after lining their hands with a bit of bog roll) in order to smear it? I think the likelihood of severe SEN and/or mental health issues must be very high.

Whilst it's clearly very unpleasant for the rest of us, would you prefer to have mental agency and occasionally encounter something like this, or to be that person who has to live that very limited life every single day?

TwoTuesday · 09/01/2026 17:05

Toilets do get stinky, as do baby change facilities though. You can't really complain about that.

stichguru · 09/01/2026 17:19

rustyflame · 09/01/2026 11:53

I didn’t say he was disabled. I’m saying he could have used the gents but IF he was disabled there was adequate facilities without holding up and stinking out the only toilet to change a baby.

If have incontinence issues, then you often have a minute or so between realising you need to go and going whether you like it or not. Unless there were infinite disabled toilets, then judging whether there were "adequate facilities" means you would have to know whether the disabled toilet was free when he got there or not. Since it sounds like you didn't rock up there until after he was in the toilet, you need to stop making judgments that you simply don't have the knowledge to make.

ResusciAnnie · 09/01/2026 17:28

JuliesName · 09/01/2026 16:31

People who poo on the wall and ceilings should clean up after themselves! I can't even think of what disability would cause that, when we all know its actually just disgusting people rather than a disability.

That is NOT fair on a cleaner, or anyone else to leave.

Yes and if someone is that impaired they would have a carer with them. Or should do. Who’s literally paid to clean poo off the ceiling if that’s what their client needs. Supermarket staff aren’t paid to do that.

Liissey0710 · 09/01/2026 17:31

rustyflame · 09/01/2026 16:14

There’s toilets in the gents but that doesn’t mean I would use them if the ladies were occupied, I’d be expected to queue.
There is quite often a queue for the ladies in the town but not for the gents.

If it was a mother with two 12 year olds and a toddler and they were half an hour and the place stunk because they all had a stomach upset. Would you even be talking about it. There is a loo there someone used it would you be less angry if he had a child with him or if it was a woman and baby. If so your issue is him been male and entitled and not someone else making the place smell

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