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I’m terrible at my job, AIBU to try and get in to the civil service?

180 replies

overthinkersanonnymus · 07/01/2026 12:17

I work in finance admin and although I’m extremely organised and proactive, numbers are not my strong point. I also have no pension to speak of so I feel like I need to concentrate on finding a role that won’t give me searing maths anxiety and has decent benefits.

from what I’ve heard it’s quite difficult to get in to, but if I can, what departments would be best to get apply to so I can get my foot in the door?

OP posts:
Thanksforyourlackofthought · 07/01/2026 16:18

HamptonPlace · 07/01/2026 16:12

I guess I was confused by the what 'that' meant in "one month half pay per year worked after that" meaning presumable year 1 = 1m 100% pay, 1m 50%, year 2 = 2m 100%, 2m 50% etc.. still meaning one would need to be QUITE sick to unfortunately have to rely upon it..

Oh for sure - It’s definitely assumed by a lot of people that they will get 6 months even though they’ve maybe only been there for a year.

LittleG69 · 07/01/2026 16:31

Zebedee999 · 07/01/2026 13:20

Your best bet is to look at what offices there are around you. In some places its MoD, others it DfT etc then focus on jobs at those places. Roles are quite varied, don't rule yourself out of most roles as they are usually quite broad in nature and give good training.

Some people here are saying that the CS is shedding jobs. It is in some roles/areas but is always recruiting for natural wastage etc.

Benefits in the CS are off the scale, 6 months full sick pay!!! Unbelievable to those of us in the private sector. Same with much more paid holiday than the private sector and excellent pensions and early retirement age too. Also the CS are immune from the pressures to "pay your way".

Good luck.

In my department (HMRC) sick pay is one month for each year of service (up to a maximum of 5) for anyone who has joined in the last 10 years or so

And retirement age is linked to your state pension age so not ‘early’

Spirallingdownwards · 07/01/2026 16:38

Differentforgirls · 07/01/2026 13:23

What is it you both do that gives you the time to post on a forum?

the irony ...

EmeraldRoulette · 07/01/2026 17:04

Oh my God, I can't stop laughing and I've only read the OP's posts really 😂😂😂

What were you going for with that title, if @overthinkersanonnymus not to imply that incompetent people apply to the civil service?

Your written communication skills might need some work 😂😂😂 but thank you for making me laugh.

Differentforgirls · 07/01/2026 17:06

Spirallingdownwards · 07/01/2026 16:38

the irony ...

I’m retired. No irony here.

Eyeshadow · 07/01/2026 17:20

I think it’s a great idea OP.

I am not really familiar with what roles they have or what your skills will be best at but you could just keep looking and see what comes up.

I have heard working for the local authority/council is also good for long term career and pensions etc.

Well done you for recognising your weaknesses and wanting to better yourself.

I know that I cannot work at home.
I am not incompetent and would do it if pushed but I am not good at it and don’t like it.
If my role became wfh I’d look for another role.
I am not sure why posters have an issue with you.

DeftWasp · 07/01/2026 17:52

overthinkersanonnymus · 07/01/2026 12:17

I work in finance admin and although I’m extremely organised and proactive, numbers are not my strong point. I also have no pension to speak of so I feel like I need to concentrate on finding a role that won’t give me searing maths anxiety and has decent benefits.

from what I’ve heard it’s quite difficult to get in to, but if I can, what departments would be best to get apply to so I can get my foot in the door?

If you are as incompetent as you suggest you will fit in fine in the civil service, especially the Home office.

HoskinsChoice · 07/01/2026 17:58

Bavariamaria · 07/01/2026 13:30

Bollocks - not heard of auto enrollment?

Edited

I think she means an amazing pension, not just the bog standard auto-enrollment one. Public sector pensions are outstanding - typically 5 to 7 times higher than private sector ones.

RaininSummer · 07/01/2026 18:12

It's not an easy job in my department. No hybrid working, work Saturdays and have fully booked diaries with people, often distressed, all day. Promotions are not easy to come by either. A lot of different skills are needed and you have to come up with the goods on the fly fairly often as people are unpredictable and each person needs something different. I don't recognise this lazy incompetent civil servant trope.

Blushingm · 07/01/2026 18:21

HoskinsChoice · 07/01/2026 17:58

I think she means an amazing pension, not just the bog standard auto-enrollment one. Public sector pensions are outstanding - typically 5 to 7 times higher than private sector ones.

5-7 times??? I doubt it

Blushingm · 07/01/2026 18:32

Zebedee999 · 07/01/2026 13:20

Your best bet is to look at what offices there are around you. In some places its MoD, others it DfT etc then focus on jobs at those places. Roles are quite varied, don't rule yourself out of most roles as they are usually quite broad in nature and give good training.

Some people here are saying that the CS is shedding jobs. It is in some roles/areas but is always recruiting for natural wastage etc.

Benefits in the CS are off the scale, 6 months full sick pay!!! Unbelievable to those of us in the private sector. Same with much more paid holiday than the private sector and excellent pensions and early retirement age too. Also the CS are immune from the pressures to "pay your way".

Good luck.

I think you need to check your facts!!!

cocoromo · 07/01/2026 18:38

pocketpairs · 07/01/2026 13:14

Try the council or civil service, most of these jobs are easy with flexi time and great pensions.

I don’t know about other departments but I work in SEND for the LA and I am flat out all day everyday with a massive workload! Definitely not an easy job, however, my other perks make up for it. I get term time, flexi and hybrid plus a good pension. I think the days of council jobs being “easy” are long gone.

RubberyChicken · 07/01/2026 19:04

surreygirly · 07/01/2026 12:42

But factual

And amusing 😄

KateShugakIsALegend · 07/01/2026 20:00

Catza · 07/01/2026 14:34

It's not a heinous thing per se but the wording of your post doesn't exactly demonstrate any viable reasons for you to switch. You talk about being terrible at your job and implying that there is some department which will be easy to join for the sake of it.
Had you talked about your skillset, passions or specific area you are interested in, a response would have been very different.
As it stands, your post reads as "I am crap at what I do, help me get another job where I will be just as crap but with a better pension".

This. The post does not imply respect for the roles civil servants do.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 07/01/2026 21:54

Blushingm · 07/01/2026 18:21

5-7 times??? I doubt it

I don't know about the multiple - but people will take public sector shops for relatively shitty pay as the rather fabulous pension balances it out

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 00:12

Blushingm · 07/01/2026 18:21

5-7 times??? I doubt it

Yes. 5-7 times. Depends on which bit of the public sector but as an example, the NHS employer contribution is 23% whereas auto-enrollment is 3% (3% is the minimum but the average is 3-5%). Some parts of the civil service are almost 29%.

I can't say this enough as I think so many people don't realise - public sector pensions are beyond outstanding.

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 00:14

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 07/01/2026 21:54

I don't know about the multiple - but people will take public sector shops for relatively shitty pay as the rather fabulous pension balances it out

It's not even shitty pay these days, it has started to even out, particularly when you draw a true comparison by including the full package (holiday, pension, blue light cards etc) rather than just the basic salary.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 08/01/2026 07:18

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 00:12

Yes. 5-7 times. Depends on which bit of the public sector but as an example, the NHS employer contribution is 23% whereas auto-enrollment is 3% (3% is the minimum but the average is 3-5%). Some parts of the civil service are almost 29%.

I can't say this enough as I think so many people don't realise - public sector pensions are beyond outstanding.

You can’t compare the DB public sector schemes with employer contributions in the private sector. They are different animals.

WalkDontWalk · 08/01/2026 07:54

CastleCrasher · 07/01/2026 12:31

Yawn. Perhaps retrain. Your creative writing skills as much work as your number skills do!

Your proof-reading skills could do with a kick up the arse too.

KateShugakIsALegend · 08/01/2026 09:18

EmeraldRoulette · 07/01/2026 17:04

Oh my God, I can't stop laughing and I've only read the OP's posts really 😂😂😂

What were you going for with that title, if @overthinkersanonnymus not to imply that incompetent people apply to the civil service?

Your written communication skills might need some work 😂😂😂 but thank you for making me laugh.

Edited

Perfectly put

Blushingm · 08/01/2026 09:58

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 00:12

Yes. 5-7 times. Depends on which bit of the public sector but as an example, the NHS employer contribution is 23% whereas auto-enrollment is 3% (3% is the minimum but the average is 3-5%). Some parts of the civil service are almost 29%.

I can't say this enough as I think so many people don't realise - public sector pensions are beyond outstanding.

They’re different sorts of pensions! You can’t compare them.

The contributions (the 23% you’re on about) don’t go into a persons ‘pot’ like in a private pension

Blushingm · 08/01/2026 10:00

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 00:14

It's not even shitty pay these days, it has started to even out, particularly when you draw a true comparison by including the full package (holiday, pension, blue light cards etc) rather than just the basic salary.

Blue light cards? You are aware that lots of people (not just nhs employees) can get a blue light card? It’s not really an employee benefit is it?

LondonPapa · 08/01/2026 10:04

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 00:12

Yes. 5-7 times. Depends on which bit of the public sector but as an example, the NHS employer contribution is 23% whereas auto-enrollment is 3% (3% is the minimum but the average is 3-5%). Some parts of the civil service are almost 29%.

I can't say this enough as I think so many people don't realise - public sector pensions are beyond outstanding.

Oh boy. The pension is based on an accrual rate not actual contributions. It is nowhere near 5-7 times more than the private sector.

Zebedee999 · 08/01/2026 10:48

Blushingm · 07/01/2026 18:32

I think you need to check your facts!!!

Which facts are wrong? Be specific.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/01/2026 10:50

InveterateWineDrinker · 07/01/2026 12:27

If you're so incompetent you've even noticed it yourself, I suspect you'd fit in very well in the Civil Service.

Edited

That’s ridiculous. As the OP rightly says, it’s not easy to get into and has a very high calibre of employees.

Usually very dedicated to their jobs as no one is there purely for the money!