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Thread 22 : To feel disappointed - and now disgusted too - after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 05/01/2026 19:13

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The Observer's original exposé: The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

First thread: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film? | Mumsnet

Links to threads 2-16, the other 20 Observer articles and videos to date, Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement, our timeline and sources can all be accessed in the OP and first few posts of Thread 17: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5403285-thread-17-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

Links to threads 18-20 can be found in the OP of Thread 21: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5460943-thread-21-to-feel-disappointed-and-now-disgusted-too-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

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New posters joining us in the genuine spirit of our civil discourse are welcome. It would be helpful to get the background from at least some of the Observer exposé items before posting.
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Remember, even Hollywood rabbits attract the odd flea. Please do not engage with drive-by scolders and ploppers who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. Over 6 months we have done amazingly well together for 21 very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in our usual reasonable and respectful fashion is very welcome.

After 21,000 posts there are still new things to look out for on the path ahead:

  • Observer Newsroom: The Real Salt Path Story, Thursday 8th January 2026 6.30-7.30pm. More information and to book via this link observer.co.uk/our-events/the-real-salt-path-story
  • Podcast series from The Observer's award-winning Investigative Journalist Chloe Hadjimatheou, 13th January 2026
  • BBC Podcast (NB Not involving Our Chloe)

Keep to the path, no saltiness, eat fudge and drink cider.

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DisappointedReader · 13/01/2026 00:37

Available now

The Walkers: The Real Salt Path - Tortoise Investigates

Episode 1 The Missing Money
In a small town in north Wales, an alleged theft at a local estate agents plants the seeds for a global blockbuster.

Episode 2 On The Path
With question marks now raised over how The Salt Path began, Chloe Hadjimatheou starts to track down other characters from the book. Did Raynor Winn and Moth ever walk the path the way they claimed?

Episode 3 Cider At Haye
When the television cameras come to a heritage cider farm in Devon, Moth and Raynor Winn take centre stage. Then within weeks, they vanish. The farm’s owner, their friend, is left to piece together the disparity between what he’d witnessed…and what Raynor Winn had written about.

Episode 4 The Miracle
Moth is suffering from a rare and terminal illness: corticobasal degeneration. Life expectancy rarely extends beyond eight years. But almost two decades after his diagnosis, Moth is still defying the odds. Has he discovered the secret to a medical miracle?

Episode 5 The French Quarter
In the aftermath of her initial investigation, Chloe hears from a close family member of Moth’s. The story is one of deep divides…and another theft. But it takes her one step closer to understanding who Moth and Raynor Winn really are.

Episode 6 The Letters
At a motorway service station, Chloe meets someone close to Raynor Winn who’s nervous about coming forward. It turns out she’s another character from The Salt Path…and she’s Raynor Winn’s niece. More than that, she’s not turned up empty handed…

Episode 7 to follow.

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Peladon · 13/01/2026 00:39

Nothing to do with the path, but I'm watching "Beauty Queen and the Catfish" on BBC1. It's fascinating.. It's about three women who were duped by a pathological liar before figuring it out. Recommend it.

Freshsocks · 13/01/2026 00:39

ThisQuirkyRaven · 12/01/2026 21:25

Thanks @DisappointedReader. I did think that Tim Scott sounded like someone TM would want to be. again, apologies for plodding over old ground -kind of gutted I only joined at thread 20 😭

I'm glad that you have joined us now, @ThisQuirkyRaven it would have been great to have had you on board earlier, we might still have some way to go, the charabanc has comfortable seats and plenty of fudge :)
I had forgotten about Tim using the surname Scott, thank you @AllFrothNoMoth, for your informative and amusing post, I had forgotten the Cooper connection too. I will have to pay close attention to Chloe's podcasts, thank you @DisappointedReader , I'm wishing Chloe luck as well.

DisappointedReader · 13/01/2026 00:49

Thanks for the recommendation @Peladon. I'm up waiting for a delayed call from a very different time zone and wishing I was asleep.

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DisappointedReader · 13/01/2026 01:03

Episode lengths:
1 41 mins
2 36 mins
3 43 mins
4 39 mins
5 29 mins
6 48 mins

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Freshsocks · 13/01/2026 01:08

That sounds interesting @Peladon thank you.
I hope your late call happens soon, @DisappointedReader so you can sleep, thank you for the episode listing and all that you do.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 13/01/2026 08:24

<pats seat> Yes, come and sit beside me @ThisQuirkyRaven. You can share my fudge. As long as you don't mind a slight lingering smell and my tendency to froth and ire if anyone mentions HNTDDD (when I absolutely don't mind if you move a couple of rows back and wait for it all to be over).

PullTheBricksDown · 13/01/2026 09:03

OK, I have a Spotify subscription and am just playing the introductory segment of the podcast now. So it looks like any other charabanc travellers who are Spotify subscribers can get it. I have some work to do today 🙄 but reckon I can start the first one, or maybe a couple of episodes during today. <stocks up on fudge>

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Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 13/01/2026 09:19

DisappointedReader · 13/01/2026 09:15

Here is Episode 1 available to listen to now:

The Missing Money | The Walkers Ep1 | The Observer

Thanks @DisappointedReader I'm going to listen to this later, it can encourage me through some rage-housework. (I'm supposed to be writing now so I'm holding off...)

OnlyAfterwards · 13/01/2026 09:27

I’m only in the first episode, and lots of hints of new voices and intriguing stuff to come (and wondrous nuggets like SW apparently making the stylish gardening smocks the smartly-dressed, cravat-wearing TW wore to work at the NT gardens they both worked at, according to Ros Hemmings, and TW showing up to work one day driving a new-looking Land Rover Defender) but there have already been two references to SW’s ‘wild, frizzy hair’. (Am I alone in thinking that SW’s do is hardly Brian May territory?)

Lots more detail on exactly how things happened at the Hemmingses. That SW had been working for them for about 7 years before they discovered the thefts, that the business ran on such a shoestring that at times MH relied on Ros H’s tiny NT salary to pay SW and his other staff, that SW had a room to herself upstairs, so she could concentrate on doing the books, that after SW failed to pay in the £600 cash and he sat down with the bank manager, the bank manager told MH to cross the street and engage the services of the good local solicitor before SW did.

And the bank manager was the one to bring in the police, when it was still thought to be ‘only’ a matter of £9k.

That SW clearly knew what was in the wind, after she’d been told not to come into work the next morning (just given an excuse, as suggested by the police), because it was then, before she was charged, that she showed up at the Hemmingses’ home after MH had gone to work, offering RH a cheque and crying about how she’d just borrowed it because they had no money, and she’d sold her mother’s things. MH accepts the money, tells the police it’s been made good, but then realises the 9k is only the tip of the iceberg.

SW is arrested at home and the house searched, and refuses to answer police questions all day before they let her go home overnight, wrongly thinking she’s not a flight risk. When the police go to the house to find her , Tim sobs and says she’s gone to Skye (when she’d gone to London to see ‘Cooper’).

This bit I hadn’t understood before— that the agreement with ‘Cooper’ was that the Walkers would sell their house immediately to repay the loan. And that they put it up for sale immediately (hence its appearance in Escape to the Country).

When it doesn’t sell, and ‘Cooper’s’ business fails and he sells on the debt, ‘Cooper’ is still ‘close to’ and in contact with TW, and writes to the creditors saying that TW is actively trying to sell their house and has just been diagnosed with a ‘degenerative and quite debilitating muscle disease’ and had been in hospital. Hmm. A first instance of ‘using illness’ as an excuse?

The Walkers, who had been communicating with the creditors via solicitors’ letters, stopped responding entirely. That’s when they started legal proceedings.

Anythingbutheadlands · 13/01/2026 09:34

Episode 2

A lot of references to MumsNet and direct quotes from some of us!

OnlyAfterwards · 13/01/2026 09:40

Anythingbutheadlands · 13/01/2026 09:34

Episode 2

A lot of references to MumsNet and direct quotes from some of us!

Yes! Funny, I'd always assumed 'we' on here were all female!

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ItsNotYourUsername · 13/01/2026 10:19

Just listened to the first episode and it’s really good. Things that we didn’t know is that Tim has turned up at work (at the National Trust where he was often found “talking more than doing the gardening” according to Debbie- Ros Hemmings daughter who worked with Tim since age 15 as a gardener) in a brand new Discovery Defender. Quick google search reveals these were £22k- £32k back in 2008 😱 expensive taste Tim!

OnlyAfterwards · 13/01/2026 10:25

I can't find the podcast on the Observer at all -- I've subscribed, but can't see it...? Am I being very dense?

BeaveringBrandy · 13/01/2026 10:32

OnlyAfterwards · 13/01/2026 10:25

I can't find the podcast on the Observer at all -- I've subscribed, but can't see it...? Am I being very dense?

I have just listened to the 1st 2 - by following link above from OP - but can't access no. 3

DisappointedReader · 13/01/2026 10:33

Click on my links to Episodes 1 and 2 @OnlyAfterwards

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Anythingbutheadlands · 13/01/2026 10:37

BeaveringBrandy · 13/01/2026 10:32

I have just listened to the 1st 2 - by following link above from OP - but can't access no. 3

It took me ages to find a way in. I think in the end I went in through links in the subscription confirmation email.

BeaveringBrandy · 13/01/2026 10:39

Anythingbutheadlands · 13/01/2026 10:37

It took me ages to find a way in. I think in the end I went in through links in the subscription confirmation email.

I managed to get blocked out by Apple! So ended up listening to the first 2 free. The others are listed in the same way but nothing works when you press play ,,,,

OnlyAfterwards · 13/01/2026 10:42

I've listened to the first two via Spotify, but as I gather Spotify will only be releasing further episodes weekly, I subscribed to the Observer, but can't find any episodes on there at all...?

I know CH said on here that it was possible that the final episode might not be ready immediately in time for today, but I can't see any on the Observer?

Stoufer · 13/01/2026 10:43

I’ve just listened to the first two episodes for free via my Amazon prime subscription - as I think it is on Amazon music (but sadly will have to wait for the later ones to be released).

The first two podcasts were really good (thanks to all involved in researching / producing them). It was really sobering to hear Ros (& Debbie) Hemmings talking about how they were struggling financially, and desperately trying to find the money to keep paying the wages (and how much stress this must have given them) - while SW was talking at work about buying a French chateau, and complaining about the cost of living (and TW was buying a large car, as mentioned by a pp).

It is truly despicable - they must have no moral compass at all. And I am glad that the details of this are being thoroughly raked over in the public domain - if nothing else it must give those who have been wronged by them (and I include those who have been deceived, lost money, misrepresented or maligned) a long-awaited sense of justice.

OnlyAfterwards · 13/01/2026 10:47

DisappointedReader · 13/01/2026 10:33

Click on my links to Episodes 1 and 2 @OnlyAfterwards

Thank you!!! 😀Still confused as to why I couldn't find them elsewhere.

AllFrothNoMoth · 13/01/2026 10:58

Just a non-spoiler observation. We knew Sally stole £64,000 but hearing Ros Hemmings and CH recount how that amount was uncovered by spending late nights going back through 7 years of accounts, a thought dawned on me: that the Hemmings basically had to do what would ordinarily be paid work redo Sally's job to make sense of the books that Sally had fudged AND they were conned out of the 7 years wages they paid Sally who failed at her job, let alone the criminality. So Sally actually stole much more than £64,000. Maybe obvious now, but I hadn't considered this "hidden" theft.

BeaveringBrandy · 13/01/2026 11:04

AllFrothNoMoth · 13/01/2026 10:58

Just a non-spoiler observation. We knew Sally stole £64,000 but hearing Ros Hemmings and CH recount how that amount was uncovered by spending late nights going back through 7 years of accounts, a thought dawned on me: that the Hemmings basically had to do what would ordinarily be paid work redo Sally's job to make sense of the books that Sally had fudged AND they were conned out of the 7 years wages they paid Sally who failed at her job, let alone the criminality. So Sally actually stole much more than £64,000. Maybe obvious now, but I hadn't considered this "hidden" theft.

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You are right and they always take from people so much more than money. It is even worse listening to some of the people as you can hear the hurt in their voices ..

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