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To be depressed that lockdown would happen again tomorrow if there was another new disease

816 replies

Pavementworrier · 05/01/2026 07:35

We talk about all the things that are worse "since the pandemic"but government prep is based on all the same mad nonsense that caused the worsening

Grim

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Newbutoldfather · 05/01/2026 08:38

All the old ignorant fantasies are being wheeled out over and over again. The ignorance about science and scepticism about people with genuine scientific expertise is scary.

Limiting contact is the only way to control infectious disease until vaccination is available. It was done in one way or another since the time of the Black Death. Eyam famously isolated itself in the Black Death to save others from suffering.

The SIR/SEIR mathematical models are used to model epidemics and, although imperfect, work well. They are what inform the degree and type of lockdowns required.

COVID turned out to be (somewhat) less morbid than scientists first thought based on the Italian cluster, but that was the data available at the time. Nonetheless if large cities like London hadn’t locked down, hospitals would have been overwhelmed and we would have had people dying in pain at home and bodies in the street. There is very little doubt of that.

If a new disease came along, it would be just like COVID at the start, little known and understood and possibly far more lethal.

And, yes, of course people would comply. There are a lot of people on these threads who are very brave retrospectively but were very fearful at the time. If you thought you might die untreated of a nasty new virus, you would do your very best not to!

We have entered a new superstitious age where science and scientists are not respected. It is sad.

Theroadt · 05/01/2026 08:38

IDontHateRainbows · 05/01/2026 07:46

Its not just about getting ill from the virus, its the knock on effect..I needed ICU treatment for an unrelated condition in April 2020. Had no beds been available I'd have certainly died. So yes, i would be compliant with a lock down.

This. And remember the diagnostic backlogs for cancers etc etc

Iocanepowder · 05/01/2026 08:38

IfIwasabluebird · 05/01/2026 08:13

Fair enough if you wouldn't isolate a bit but don't start moaning when you can't see a GP (all ill), the shop supplies start running low (supply chain all ill), bins aren't collected (staff all ill), and Aunt Sandra and your teens favorite teacher die unexpectedly young.

Pandemics don't come round very often. We knew they had almost cracked the vaccines within a few months. There's a lot worse things in life. Be glad you had a social life and family to get back to.

Couldn’t get a GP to see my baby during the last lockdown anyway. So no difference there.

ClawsandEffect · 05/01/2026 08:38

I would comply. I take one look at what covid has done to my younger siblings health and I'd be in the house, door locked.

EasternStandard · 05/01/2026 08:39

IfIwasabluebird · 05/01/2026 08:37

I'd love to know where the anti lockdown crew think we're getting the magic elves to run our infrastructure when loads of humans are ill.

All we have to do in a pandemic is keep out of the way of each other so the essential services aren't overwhelmed and can function.

What happens in a pandemic depends on the virus. As in pp if it was more severe than Covid you’d be looking at a different issue. People not turning up.

EdithBond · 05/01/2026 08:39

IDontHateRainbows · 05/01/2026 07:46

Its not just about getting ill from the virus, its the knock on effect..I needed ICU treatment for an unrelated condition in April 2020. Had no beds been available I'd have certainly died. So yes, i would be compliant with a lock down.

This is what people don’t remember or consider.

In Northern Italy, there were reports people had to die at home, cared for by loved ones, as hospitals ran out of beds. When a novel, highly contagious virus (for which there is no vaccine or treatment) spreads rapidly through the population, hospitals can very quickly get overwhelmed, particularly as so many medical staff go down with it and obviously can’t carry on working while contagious.

Once hospitals are overwhelmed, even standard procedures (like ruptured appendix), let alone accidents or cancer treatments, can be compromised.

Restrictions reduce the spread until vaccines and treatments can be developed. Most people in UK live in comfortable homes with private outside space and could go out for walks etc once a day when they could see and socialise with others at a distance.

It was families in hellish temporary accommodation and overcrowded flats who suffered the most from having to stay at ‘home’. Plus, people with No Recourse to Public Funds, who weren’t entitled to financial support when they lost work.

Samdelila · 05/01/2026 08:42

Bobiverse · 05/01/2026 07:51

All this “no one would comply” stuff is nonsense. If a new hemorrhagic fever with no cure started spreading around the world, you’d all be inside and isolating.

We would be - by our own choice. The risks should be spelt out clearly and honestly so that people could make an informed decision about the risks they were prepared to take. It shouldn’t be mandatory.

Happyjoe · 05/01/2026 08:43

Didn't it come to light that had the gov done the lock down faster, then it would've saved lives and probably no need for further lockdowns?

So if people (which I agree, they will not on a whole) refuse to go into a lockdown again then they put everyone at risk because of rubbish decisions made by the last government.

On a personal level, I liked the lockdowns. Barely had to talk to a single numpty, lovely, it was fairly peaceful and I enjoyed watching the wildlife thrive. My old neighbour (moved away now) had parties during lockdowns, then spent every Thurs banging pans. Never did get past that one, lol.

IDontHateRainbows · 05/01/2026 08:44

UniquePinkSwan · 05/01/2026 08:11

I’d love it if we got to stay at home with pay. I had to work through it last time and I’m still bitter to this day.

Yeah all that free money, borrowed from the future. Bet you wouldn't love the subsequent economic crash.

Parker231 · 05/01/2026 08:44

Samdelila · 05/01/2026 08:42

We would be - by our own choice. The risks should be spelt out clearly and honestly so that people could make an informed decision about the risks they were prepared to take. It shouldn’t be mandatory.

And if you ignore the advice, medical services wouldn’t be available to you

Newbutoldfather · 05/01/2026 08:45

@Samdelila ,

What you are basically advocating for is hoping that enough unselfish people choose to isolate to allow the selfish ones to just have fun as normal.

No way!

In a public emergency, everyone has to do their bit, so it should absolutely be mandatory.

Dragonflytamer · 05/01/2026 08:45

Samdelila · 05/01/2026 08:42

We would be - by our own choice. The risks should be spelt out clearly and honestly so that people could make an informed decision about the risks they were prepared to take. It shouldn’t be mandatory.

People can't be left to take the choice. The people would who took the "informed risk", just wouldn't then accept the consequences of not being treated if/when they did get ill - they would then expect the state to pick up the pieces.

CremeCarmel · 05/01/2026 08:45

onlyoneoftheregimentinstep · 05/01/2026 07:43

So you’d rather get ill?

We know what to do to avoid illness. Ventilation, masks, distancing. We now are very skilled at working from home. We have a lot of online shopping etc. so it would not be the same as the last lockdown. We would know how to make it less miserable and there would hopefully be fewer deaths.

EasternStandard · 05/01/2026 08:45

Parker231 · 05/01/2026 08:44

And if you ignore the advice, medical services wouldn’t be available to you

What do you mean. Who is determining this?

Anyahyacinth · 05/01/2026 08:46

Is this Reform / Conservatives testing a "Pile The Bodies High" for their next manifesto?

Laughable ...if you think lockdowns were unpleasant enjoy an unchecked pandemic ...killing millions, overwhelming the NHS so we have no healthcare staff or places to treat the sick or people to bury the dead, keep the power on.

What a stupid post

x2boys · 05/01/2026 08:46

Parker231 · 05/01/2026 08:04

Exactly - it’s non negotiable. Hospitals struggled during the Covid pandemic. What does everyone think would happen if a virus like Covid was able to run unchecked through the population?

Exactly people forget we locked down to protect the NHS not to save lives
Its all very well posters saying well i was only ill for a few days with covid ( and so was in btw) but if it was left to run wild with no restrictions not only woukd the NHS be swamped but they would have no staff as they would frequently getting ill ,even if they were only off sick a week or so staff constantly going off sick is going to cause havoc ,same with schools and super markets etc.

Liondoesntsleepatnight · 05/01/2026 08:47

History of the whole includes pandemics, you and I are not bigger, stronger or smarter than a Global Pandemic.

There wouldn’t be a knee jerk reaction to lock down, as there wasn’t before. Look at the devastating numbers affected by the Spanish Flu, between 50 - 100 million people died, more than the number of WW1. The plague killed a third of the population of Europe.

I work in risk, Astroid, Pandemic and Cyber Are the big worries for mankind.

EasternStandard · 05/01/2026 08:47

Happyjoe · 05/01/2026 08:43

Didn't it come to light that had the gov done the lock down faster, then it would've saved lives and probably no need for further lockdowns?

So if people (which I agree, they will not on a whole) refuse to go into a lockdown again then they put everyone at risk because of rubbish decisions made by the last government.

On a personal level, I liked the lockdowns. Barely had to talk to a single numpty, lovely, it was fairly peaceful and I enjoyed watching the wildlife thrive. My old neighbour (moved away now) had parties during lockdowns, then spent every Thurs banging pans. Never did get past that one, lol.

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I doubt it was possible. Melbourne had some of the strictest actions and the longest repeated lockdowns.

Parker231 · 05/01/2026 08:47

EasternStandard · 05/01/2026 08:45

What do you mean. Who is determining this?

My view - if you ignore advice to lockdown should there be another pandemic, you aren’t entitled to medical care if you then get the virus!

Happyjoe · 05/01/2026 08:48

EasternStandard · 05/01/2026 08:47

I doubt it was possible. Melbourne had some of the strictest actions and the longest repeated lockdowns.

"Too little, too late" was the inquiries findings.

LittleDeeAndME · 05/01/2026 08:48

I think we would have a lockdown but not as strict - with just the vulnerable looked after, and we would go on with life with the right PPE

wp65 · 05/01/2026 08:48

Dolphinnoises · 05/01/2026 07:45

Oh for God’s sake, grow up. Lockdown was awful and had awful down sides, and we had the politicians we elected who were exactly the clowns we all knew they were, and utterly unsuited to the task.

But we didn’t know we would find a vaccine, or that it would be as effective - we were realistically hoping for 50% effectiveness, and on the first strain it was 94% effective, but as it was a coronavirus it did what they all do and evolved.

Everything we are suffering from - the hit to the economy, the trauma of loss and illness-based bodily damage / after-effects - it was all caused by the disaster which is a pandemic. It’s like arguing that we won’t put up with our house falling down next time there is an earthquake.

Ask anyone who worked in a hospital during Covid if we could skip masks and lockdown next time. We can’t. The other thing we can’t avoid - making mistakes. Hindsight is 20:20 but these are insanely difficult choices.

For years we knew we were overdue a global pandemic - the expectation was that they were a one-in-a-hundred-year event but so many factors change - global travel and deforestation on one hand, the facts of novel illnesses on the other - incubation periods, how it spreads. We aren’t in control of everything.

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Exactly this. Lockdown was a disaster in many ways, and messily implemented, but it also - just about - did what it was supposed to do, which was prevent the total collapse of the health service.

MrMucker · 05/01/2026 08:48

During the lockdown I saw, a selfish streak to the human race which I hadn't known could exist., and this thread proves it's not only still there, but greater.

A lockdown is for everybody, for the greater good, and those who resist it are all about themselves. My children, my welfare my fun, my freedom. Me me me.

So sad about this aspect of the human race.

lovescats3 · 05/01/2026 08:48

Vaccines enabled us to come out of lockdown. Also young, healthy Drs and nurses died. People including children with no previous health issues have been left with long term illness, such as diabetes, asthma and cardiac problems just to name a few conditions- there was a sting in the tail with covid for some people, it wasn't a mild illness

SpringsOnTheWay · 05/01/2026 08:48

CremeCarmel · 05/01/2026 08:45

We know what to do to avoid illness. Ventilation, masks, distancing. We now are very skilled at working from home. We have a lot of online shopping etc. so it would not be the same as the last lockdown. We would know how to make it less miserable and there would hopefully be fewer deaths.

those things are what help with Covid. That doesn’t mean they’ll help with the next one