To wonder what US Trump voters think now

[Indiependant]

Their country's reputation trashed. The man they voted for heavily implicated in the Epstein scandal. Contempt shown to them abroad.
About to completely shift Ukraine. Enabling Netanyahu to commit mass murder of children with their tax dollars. No roaring economy. The environment fucked probbaky beyond saving due to their inaction.
What, in all honesty, do the 75 million who have caused this catastrophe think?

Which is why I said “speak for YOURSELF”.

And no, I have never felt scared because people are daring to speak a different language around me. That’s my daily norm but then I find monolinguals are always weird around people who speak different languages (and too damn nosey.)

I cannot imagine how you cope if you ever ventured overseas.

That is not correct. Just because another place has more crime, doesn’t make the country I live in any less scary to me.
The UK is a scarier place to be, compared to the UK 15 years ago - and that’s all that matters. And it’s my experience that tells me this, not Fox News.

And that’s what I did. Thanks.

You didn’t originally.

Completely not my experience so looks like opinions vary

They aren’t temporary for one (it started that way but has become a back door) and they get paid less, which undermines American wages. We have something else called the O-1 visa that brings in higher-value workers.

Taiwanese semiconductor engineers? 👍

Indian accountants? 👎

(In case you cared about the distinction here. Perhaps you don’t)

People genuinely don’t feel safe in the UK at the moment, but the rights of illegal migrants trump them according to the human rights lawyers. So you haven’t convinced me I’m afraid.

People including myself. Just because you feel perfectly safe, doesn’t make me the only person who doesn’t. I am one of many, whether you like it or not. But I won’t speak for you.

I’m sure they do.

This is incoherent they still meet your definition of “expat.”

And why is their national origin relevant?

Well I'm off to my line dancing class. Thank you all for a pleasant debate. Wishing you all a relaxing and peaceful evening.

"Expat" is just a poncy word for "immigrant"

Which town?

What does it mean in English?

I am sure no one sheds any tears re Venezuela but it still doesn’t make it legal, whatever personal opinions might be

I am genuinely interested in what Trump supporters think of the US threats against Canada and Greenland?

Neutrality would have been one thing (except that the US signed the Budapest memorandum back in 1994 and if it wants to be trusted by investors etc. would do well to stick by agreements it signs).

The negotiations however have been anything but neutral. Was the televised ambush really how you speak to the leader of a foreign country in public? Swallowing almost every story spun by Putin and his minions. Heck, the proposal cooked up by Witkoff and Dmitriev was about as neutral as the one between Molotov and Ribbentrop.

Oh I do understand perfectly well.

Lived in the states for a while on H1B visa as an intra company transfer. We were rapidly getting nudged to applying for a green card, which neither of us wanted.

I’d say we were economic migrants though, as not planning to stay long term. Expat is a bit too colonial for my liking.

H1B required a bachelors degree as a minimum qualification, although DH’s contemporaries were at least MSc / PhD in a specialised field with niche skills, and is time limited.

The O-1 visa is quite different, as well you know.

@24kPalamino I spend a lot of time there, mostly in the Southern states and people don’t generally regret their vote.

These are the states who would vote for a literal turd if it had an 'R' next to its name.

The OP's question is probably better asked of the swing voters.

Yes, in 2016 but failed to become President. In 2024, the American collective think was all hail the Trad wife so I think we can say with some conviction that this was a large part of it. Obviously, lots of factors came into it but a reality TV personality becoming President does make you wonder whether the voting choices were anything more than, 'simple'.

@ChattyCatty25 I don’t blame them because there was a lot of hysteria about Trump during his first term, but nothing much out of the ordinary happened.

Mostly because there were adults in the administration working behind the scenes to keep things half-sane. With some of his more loopy ideas they would slip the item out of his signing pile in the knowledge that he has the attention span of a gnat and will forget about it very shortly.

Now though the adults are gone. January 6th should have been the wakeup call - his supporters tried to lynch his own Vice President!

Have you ever listened to one of Trump's press conferences?

You were expats. And it’s better for temp workers to think of themselves this way. We all have to leave at some point (well you could have got perm and probably GCs quite quickly but it shouldn’t really be an option imho)

I don’t know the details but Putin will probably have kept the territory he currently holds, no? Not much you can do to make him give it up? Not following it closely tbh

And I don’t care how he talks to a leader that is looking for handouts ie taxpayer money.

Nope, we were economic migrants on a temporary basis.

For a country built on the backs of immigrants, you’re very much into pulling up the ladder aren’t you?

I just think we should be more selective: I have no issue with a small pool of select people that will be huge contributors, your Elon Musk and Jenson Huang types. Migrant labor should be strictly limited to temp workers and only for a few years at most. No family sponsorship. Work, save, go home (like you did)

You forget that America has had long periods of low immigration. The 1924 Immigration Act pretty much shut the doors until 1965. So this is well within our tradition.

How do you feel about South African techbros?