All my historically fat friends have gone thin this year

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Okay maybe not ALL of them, but a few friends/acquaintances who have been very big for years and years, tried everything but could never shift the slightest bit of weight, have all had dramatic transformations and shed many stones over the past year. It’s just becoming expected now whenever I see another formerly large acquaintance or relative pop up on my feed with a super slim selfie.

I (rightly or wrongly) suspect it’s got to be WLIs or similar? Although all are adamant it’s a strict diet only. Just to add there is NOTHING wrong with jabs at all, and I’m aware it’s absolutely none of my business, and I sound mean but I wouldn’t actually discuss this in RL. It just got me thinking that being overweight might be obsolete in a few years?

Anyone else noticing this trend with people they know?

Good for them. I am very much hoping to be one of those people this time next year.

You mist generally have quite wealthy friends. Most overweight people do not have a spare £125-£250pm (depending on dose) and if they did, wouldn't spend it on WLIs because they would place a higher priority on a family lifestyle that includes eg fully functional household appliances & every day technology, an annual holiday, or a sufficiently comfortable and spacious home to live in. The cost of WLIs represents an entire step or two up the ladder of value in family lifestyle.

Meanwhile the criteria for getting them on NHS are so high that barely 1% of those who would benefit from them can get them withoit being wealthy. Maybe 5% of those who need them are fortunate enough to be able to able to afford them without depriving their family of the benefits of better potential uses of the money, and maybe 5% of those who need them go ahead and spend the money choosing to depriving their family of the benefits of better potential uses of the money. The rest of the users don't actually need them and are using them to get down from a healthy enough size 14 to a too-thin-by-far level by lying to the online suppliers to obtain meds they shouldn't be having.

Obesity won't die out at all, but it will become more socially stigma'ed as it will be an easy way to mark someone out as "not belonging" if they are trying to fit in/emulate/aspire to a more prosperous social bracket than they can actually afford.

People who can afford them and think they aren't wealthy are deluding themselves as to how privileged they are.

this is what people who are jealous say about people who have lost weight

Some people have got more money than you.

You don't need to come off them. Plenty of people will stay on them long-term for maintenance. Lots of posters talking very confidently about something they clearly don't know much about.

But this person isn't your friend?

This. Anyone who judges you for taking control is not your friend. They should walk a mile in your shoes.

I have lost weight both on and off wlis. And wlis are drastically easier. Its obtuse to argue otherwise. That doesn't mean they do all the work for you, but there is an incredibly massive difference between the work involved with them versus without.

Then don’t ask, you have no right to know.

No, you are thin because you are not insulin resistant.

If it was as simple as you say, fat people would easily lose weight with willpower only and thin people wouldn’t get insulin related conditions such as type 2 or gestational diabetes. But they do. The reason GLPs work so well as they tackle insulin resistance - great for diabetics/metabolic syndrome, but actually beneficial for everyone.

I'm not jealous at all. I'm concerned about her. If she looked fabulous I'd say so but I was shocked and no one mentioned it. I'm concerned she has body dysmorphia as she was wearing extremely baggy clothes to hide herself.

Oh right, I’m not thin because I don’t eat much? Is that a fact?

I know a few people who openly use WLIs. I know a few people who I suspect are on them. And I also know a couple of morbidly obese people who aren’t on them, but who do have weight-related health problems. I don’t discuss it with any of them because it’s none of my business, but it is amazing how many people are on them.

Not really. I have a friend who was life threateningly overweight and had type two diabetes. Her GP prescribed Mounjaro. She lost twelve stone in a year and now looks gaunt and completely unrecognisable. I’ve known her 40 years and would have walked past her in the street had I not been in constant contact throughout her journey. She says she feels better and healthier without the weight so that’s all I can go on. But she looks ill and I fear for her because she seems to be addicted to the weight loss.

My NDN is on them. She looks fantastic. Her view is that you still have to work at it but it's like climbing a ladder rather than trying to pull yourself up a rope, which is how she saw dieting.

This. Personally I'm extremely open about it, but that's because I want to and I enjoy discussing it with interested parties.

But if you don't want to be lied to about a medical matter, you can avoid the risk entirely by not asking. It's your own fault if you don't like the consequences.

I am thin because I eat one average size meal a day. Plus a couple of bits of fruit. I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t eat bread and I don’t eat treat food. And I let myself go hungry quite often 🤷

But why ask in the first place? What has it got to do with you?

Am I also misleading my friends if I don’t tell them I had my children through IVF?

What if I don’t tell them about taking HRT?

How much private info are my friends entitled to?

Should I just put all my medical history on Facebook?

And don’t tell me it’s different - because it’s not.

Medical information is private you aren't entitled to it.

You only want to know people have lost weight using drugs so you can judge them appropriately “worthy” of being slim.

At the moment it’s just wealthy people who can afford them. It seems obesity will die out amongst wealthy middle class people for whom it is already less of an issue and will become an even more stigmatised marker of poverty unless the price drops enough for the NHS to afford to give them to people free on the basis of need as they ought to be . Whilst there is a huge private market I can’t see it happening sadly and those who need them most will continue to be denied the benefit.

Nope. The poster is right. Insulin resistance is a real problem for those with type two diabetes - which is addressed by Mounjaro. My DH’s diabetes nurse says she wishes everyone qualified for a dose of Mounjaro as standard because of the benefits across the board. Maybe educate yourself before posting like this.

Because obesity is not about lack of willpower.

Ah, @Pickledpoppetpickle - I’m so sorry you feel like that.

i felt ANGRY when I started to loose weight with Mounjaro - because I realised it wasn’t my fault after all… all those bloody decades of diets, excessive exercise regimes followed by gaining, overeating, yo-yoing and repeat, successful at everything else in life but failing at being ‘thin’.

the GLP-1s have given me a sense of what normal/typical food habits are like..

please don’t be ashamed. It’s a miracle cure for something physical in your body hasn’t worked correctly for years.

I think the price may drop soon. There’s meant to be a new better drug in the near future. So people won’t want mounjaro as much and maybe the price of that will drop? Unless the new one is just even more expensive I guess. Plus there’s meant to be a tablet form of mounjaro coming which will be cheaper to manufacture.

Just be happy for them. They will have struggled as you say, for years and been miserable and felt wretched.