All my historically fat friends have gone thin this year

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Okay maybe not ALL of them, but a few friends/acquaintances who have been very big for years and years, tried everything but could never shift the slightest bit of weight, have all had dramatic transformations and shed many stones over the past year. It’s just becoming expected now whenever I see another formerly large acquaintance or relative pop up on my feed with a super slim selfie.

I (rightly or wrongly) suspect it’s got to be WLIs or similar? Although all are adamant it’s a strict diet only. Just to add there is NOTHING wrong with jabs at all, and I’m aware it’s absolutely none of my business, and I sound mean but I wouldn’t actually discuss this in RL. It just got me thinking that being overweight might be obsolete in a few years?

Anyone else noticing this trend with people they know?

OOH where is that WLI bingo card! I think we may have a serious contender here!

@DownThePubWithStevieNicks god I hope people wouldn’t be so rude and intrusive as to expect people to justify a medical decision! But perhaps a lot of people sadly would be. If I had a friend like that I could think of a myriad of reasons why she would choose not to take WLI. Medical exclusions being an obvious one, trying to conceive, needle phobic, finances not being what other people assume from the outside, lots of people are worried, unnecessarily, about extreme side effects, due to all the insane scare stories that get passed around as “fact”. Etc etc.

That is one person. My friend (overwight, diabetic, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and on medication for all those) had a stroke over Christmas. I went to visit her in hospital and the number of simlar youngish people (one in her 30's with 2 tiny children) is a sobering sight. These people have a long journey to recover from their stokes - and some of them will be left with permanent and significant disabilities.

I'd love to see your empirical evidence that the risks are comparable

Yep and they are all open about weight loss medication. Do they (wrongly perhaps) think you might be judgemental?

Nope. Look it up. Both Mounjaro and Ozempic were developed specifically to treat type two diabetes. Weight loss is a side effect. And my DH is not obese - overweight but qualified for Mounjaro because of his type 2 and a combination of other health problems - none of which were down to lifestyle. There’s a lot of nonsense being talked here.

This is a total myth now anyway

You've left out that half the population smoked at that time. Naturally, having so many people taking an appetite suppressant had an impact on weight. I expect if we went back to those smoking rates it would offer an alternative obesity reduction strategy to WLIs...

Cholesterol rises in women after the menopause because of reducing oestrogen. It’s raised in the elderly. Some medications raise cholesterol. Obviously extending life expectancy increases these age related rises in cholesterol.

I don’t consider that lowering cholesterol is a waste of money in my case. I accept that others, including you @Lemonlimonade will not share that opinion. Tant pis pour toi.

There’s a very specific ‘look’ as well with weight loss injections when people go a bit too far.

But Mounjaro is licenced for weight loss in the UK. Hence, those who qualify have as much right as your husband to access it for medical reasons?

I was also under the impression that NHS supplies of Mounjaro are ringfenced. So I highly doubt that private prescriptions are affecting their supply.

I suspect your NHS trust are looking to blame somebody for supply issues and fat people are, as ever, an easy target due to the moral dimensions society places on weight.

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Love this! I think I have heard them all

Those jabs are great aren’t they. If they are used as they are intended I mean.

I’ve lost 4 stone this year. I’ve always been a binge eater. A few factors have caused this. Psychological things.

Anyway without the cravings nagging at me I’ve managed to shed the weight which I’m happy about. Got another stone or so to lose I’ll still be chunky but I quite like having a bit of meat on.

Meh, I keep my health risks as low as possible with diet and exercise already.
If a new drug turns out to have cost/benefit that lowers risk further, I'm quite happy to give it a go.

This is completely ignorant of the wide range of social, economic, and psychological factors that lead to obesity.

And I say that as someone whose BMI has never been above 22.

Yeah, I've had a fair few in real life. I actually had the Sharon Osbourne one the other day, which was a personal triumph.

DD (NHS) and DIL (teacher) both say all their colleagues are on it. I lost four stone on it, so I’m like 🤷‍♀️ good for them.

I’ve kept it off for 15 months. I don’t blame them for keeping it to themselves, I did.

Bollocks, then why are on it if you don’t get something more than others for that. You might as well save money.

Type 2 diabetes increases the risk of vascular problems, which my DH has as a direct result. He had a leg amputated because of diabetic ulcers which had developed to the point where they were untreatable and is now in danger of losing the other leg. He has diabetic retinopathy which affects his eyesight and also has reduced sensation in limb extremities, putting him at risk of injury and associated medical issues. He’s at massively increased risk of damage to blood vessels by increased blood pressure causing coronary heart disease and stroke. That enough ‘empirical’ evidence for you ?

No, I'm not severely overweight. As much as you wish I was. I am a reasonable weight. I have been obese before - 4-5 stone overweight, and I lost the weight via healthy eating and exercise. I would NEVER take the jabs, and I am entitled to think people using them is wrong, and is not the answer to all their problems. Why are you so angry? I they work for you, then great, but for many, they lose weight quickly, spend 1000s of pounds doing so, then regain it all!

Thanks. DH is permanently in a wheelchair due to type two diabetes caused by limited mobility. Already lost one leg and in danger of losing the other. Diabetic retinopathy has affected his eyesight and and his risk of vascular heart disease is massively increased. But you carry on mocking.

These jobs are still the preserve of the relatively wealthy, unless they can get it on the NHS. So the poorest people will still be overweight.

YES! It's so funny...

ME: "oh hey Anne, you're looking great!"
(Anne just dropped 3 stone and now has no butt)
Anne: "yeah, just not eating bread"
ME: "sure"

Now this I completely agree with. Until these drugs are fairly available to all who can benefit, regardless of financial status, we risk furthering the gap between rich and poor.

I didn't mention your weight.

You said there are multiple people you know who've lost weight with WLIs and are now regaining. As statistically this is also true for the majority who diet, are they also ticking time bombs? You've not told us.

Also the time for you to ask why anyone else is angry was before you posted that. Because it was very agitated.