All my historically fat friends have gone thin this year

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Okay maybe not ALL of them, but a few friends/acquaintances who have been very big for years and years, tried everything but could never shift the slightest bit of weight, have all had dramatic transformations and shed many stones over the past year. It’s just becoming expected now whenever I see another formerly large acquaintance or relative pop up on my feed with a super slim selfie.

I (rightly or wrongly) suspect it’s got to be WLIs or similar? Although all are adamant it’s a strict diet only. Just to add there is NOTHING wrong with jabs at all, and I’m aware it’s absolutely none of my business, and I sound mean but I wouldn’t actually discuss this in RL. It just got me thinking that being overweight might be obsolete in a few years?

Anyone else noticing this trend with people they know?

I have wondered that. I Googled around for natural alternatives to GLP 1s and apart from berberine, it seems to come down to lots of fibre rich foods, avocado, fruit, veg and legumes plus - exercise. The exercise isn’t to burn the calories off but, as far as I understand it, it effects changes in the gut microbiome, though this lasts for only around a day or 2 so you have to keep at it.

one friend of mine is confident she’s learned better eating habits as a result of the injections

I'm slowly losing weight. I am no longer working so not stress eating carbs when I was miserable, plus I go to the gym/classes 4 times a week and am generally more active. Friends notice. It's not the 7st wli loss (though I could do with that :) ) but a couple of people have asked if I'm on jabs.

None of my business, just pleased my friends are healthy and happy.

There seems to be some misunderstanding on this thread about Mounjaro. The active ingredient, Tirzepatide, was developed initially to treat Type 2 diabetes, but was also further tested for weight loss alone. In the UK T2 diabetics might be prescribed Mounjaro on the NHS for blood sugar control if their blood sugar isn’t well controlled by other medications. The NHS supply of Mounjaro is ring fenced, and so isn’t affected by private demand for weight loss. The price is also not affected by private demand, and the NHS gets it at a better price than the private pharmacies.

I know quite a few people who’ve lost weight with jabs and they are very open about it. I’m doing WW and sticking to it for the first time ever and know people will wrongly put my loss down to the medication.

Your DH is insulin resistant. Obese people are insulin resistant. This drug treats insulin resistance. There's no need to create a hierarchy of who deserves it more.

In any case you're wrong. Mounjaro was created specifically for weight loss.

No evidence for 'body trying to re-establish its set point'. That is not how our bodies work. Of course if people haven't learnt to deal with some feelings of being a little hungry at times, or haven't changed their eating habits, or are unable to exercies, or have ongoing underlying metabllic issues they do risk regaining weight.

It isn't. I've never paid anything like that. For lower doses and cheaper suppliers it's often closer to £150, especially if you shop around for discounts. That's 5 weeks worth if you do the bonus dose, so about £30 odd per week before considering reduced spend on consumables. I think it costs me about £25ish a week. Some people find even greater savings if they used to like a lot of alcohol and/or takeaways.

Certainly there are some people on the bones of their arses, but it's not particularly unusual to have thirty or forty quid a week to spend on yourself either. After all, it's not like COL increases are felt by the whole population equally. I took a 10 year mortgage fix in 2021, for example- nothing more than dumb luck. The difference between that and a 2024 fix would buy a lot of WLIs.

I have a feeling that this poster's NHS trust may be trying to cover up some medical incompetence and poor provision by blaming fat people. I mean, it's not unheard of.

Can I just address the “rapid weight loss / face of a wraith” comments.

I know 6 people who are on MJ, 7 including me. None of us have lost rapidly. I’m sure some people do, but it’s by no means everyone. I’ve lost a shade over 4 stone in just over a year. This seem fairly typical of my group of friends / family. I would venture to suggest it’s sustained weightloss rather than rapid.

in the old days I’d go up and down two stone three times over the course of a year.

often the initial months bring fairly rapid weightloss but once you’re on an even keel it’s pretty much near the advised 1lb a week for most people.

Most people aren’t staving themselves and ending up like a saggy ballsack. Genuinely they aren’t.

In Japan and China shame plays a big part, it is considered socially unacceptable to be overweight. In Japan there was a law introduced that workplaces needed to measure the waistlines of their employees and being above the acceptable range can result in losing your job or not being hired in the first place, it also affects promotions.

Obesity rates are rising in most countries where people have enough resources to eat what they like, it certainly isn't specific to the West. Check out some of the middle east rates! Japan is an outlier as a non food insecure society.

Can I ask why?

Genuine question, just curious.

I think we’ll soon be at the stage where people who have obesity and are not on WLIs are having to justify why not.

I’d obviously never say anything, but I keep wondering whether a friend of mine, who has had obesity all her adult life and I know could easily afford WLIs, has considered them.

Yes and good for them. I have a few friends who have used WLI and are hoping this is the big reset to a healthier and happier life.

I was size 18 for the whole of my adult life and I have now gone down to a size 8 after losing 6 stone. I am on long term maintenance as it also helps my gynaecological condition too but paying privately. It’s mentally taken a lot of faith to understand that this is my new size and I’m praying I can maintain it.
I also know several women who were not big to begin with but now seem to have gone skeletal so god only knows where they are getting it from.

I have been honest about my weight loss with most people apart from the daily mail readers in my life! 🤣

Rather than living healthily, you think we should all rely on statins and weight loss jabs? I find that an abhorrent opinion (and a waste of money)!!

No it wasn’t. Its medical name is Tirzapetide. It’s a dual glucose dependant insulinotropic polypeptide - GLP-1 and a receptor antagonist for type 2 diabetes. It was developed and approved for the sole purpose of managing Type 2 diabetes to help control blood glucose. The side effects were weight loss and this led to new approvals for chronic weight management in obese or overweight adults. Ozempic was developed for much the same reasons.

I use montjaro as an aid to lose weight along with making good food choices and doing exercise. Walking more and exercise classes which I couldn’t do 6 stone heavier. I have seen freinds lose a lot this year but unless they tell/ask me I’m not interested in how they have done it. I’ve no idea why people think the jabs are a bad thing or anything to be ashamed off. I take blood pressure tablets without being judged.

I care not about being judged as I’m happier and healthier so it’s all posative for me.

Oh my, are you one of my friends? 😆 me and my 3 closest friends have lost over 20 stone between us in the last 18mths!

Yes. I lived in Japan for a while and as a UK 10-12 I struggled to find clothes in normal shops that would fit me. Japanese friends would think nothing of pointing out you'd put on a few pounds over Christmas. Its a completely different culture and EDs are very normalised.

3 friends are on wli unfortunately 2 have lead to eating disorders once stopped through fear if gaining.

Ha! This is me- I've lost weight the old fashioned way and I admit to being a bit aggrieved that people won't think that!!
Absolutely no issue with the use of WLI, but what grinds my gears is when people flaunt their weight loss and concede to using wegovy etc, BUT, and this seems to be a trend, they declare that it wasn't really the WLI that did it, they basically did all the work themselves.
No, it's entirely predicated on the medication and I'm petty enough to want you to own it (if you're going to flaunt it).

I grew up in the 60s and 70s with a diet that did not include upfs. Everything my father cooked was homemade and we occasionally had dessert, maybe a couple of times a week. Portions were smaller and very few of us in general were overweight. It is about what you eat. There is nothing complicated about it. Stop eating upfs, buy veg and meat unprocessed. It really is no more complicated than that. Upfs are addictive along with sugar highs so stop feeding your addiction. It gets better after a few weeks.

But for many people, stating are necessary where lifestyle changes have had no effect? Therefore they are a clear positive.

In the same way, for many people (myself included) WLIs are necessary where lifestyle changes did not have lasting effects.

As I said earlier, I do live a healthy life. I always could, for limited periods. The thing that WLIs do is allow me to do so continually.

They’re taking Mounjaro. Good for them - they’ll help cut the NHS costs for all of us. Obesity is a major public health cost.