Page 5 | A controversial perspective is that the daily work routines of the wealthy and billionaires can, in many respects, be significantly more stressful than those of the average worker.

Jonnyenglish · 2025-12-30T11:26:37+00:00

Yes its not as straight forward and yes there are many workers that you could argue do more, but when your guiding and running large businesses and dealing with various people etc,

IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 18:40

Coldwar2026 · 30/12/2025 18:24

What strikes me most about this thread is not the individual comment

“Why don’t you go outside and play on your new bike?”

but what it reveals about the state of public discourse. When someone who has participated on a forum for years resorts to that level of dismissal, it exposes a deeper problem: people have forgotten how to debate without retreating into mockery the moment they feel intellectually uncomfortable.

In a Socratic sense, this thread is a case study in the failure of dialectic. Instead of engaging with arguments, testing assumptions, or clarifying definitions, participants default to:

Ridicule instead of reasoning
Status‑games instead of substance
Emotional defensiveness instead of inquiry
Performative one‑liners instead of genuine thought

Socrates would say that this is what happens when people believe they are wise but have never examined their own assumptions. The moment a topic becomes complex wealth, stress, labour, responsibility — the conversation collapses into ego protection. People stop listening. They stop questioning. They stop thinking. They lash out.

And the saddest part is that many of the people doing this are long‑term users who should know better. Years on a discussion platform should cultivate:

intellectual humility
curiosity
the ability to separate ideas from identity
the discipline to challenge arguments rather than people

Instead, the thread demonstrates how easily even experienced users abandon those virtues when confronted with a perspective they dislike.
This is not just a failure of manners. It is a failure of civic capability. A society cannot meaningfully debate economics, ethics, or policy if its members cannot tolerate discomfort or complexity without throwing rhetorical tantrums.
The thread becomes a mirror and the reflection is not flattering. It shows how many people are unprepared for real debate, not because they lack intelligence, but because they lack the habits of mind that make debate possible: patience, precision, self‑examination, and the willingness to be wrong.

If anything, the behaviour on display should prompt a question worthy of Socrates himself:
How can a community claim to value discussion when its members flee from discussion the moment it demands thought?
Until people confront that contradiction, threads like this will continue to devolve into childishness not because the topics are childish, but because the participants refuse to rise to the level the topics require.

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But the OP doesn’t have an argument, an idea or any particular position. They have a particularly garbled word salad about billionaires. This is not Socrates.

Itsmetheflamingo · 30/12/2025 18:47

Coldwar2026 · 30/12/2025 18:24

What strikes me most about this thread is not the individual comment

“Why don’t you go outside and play on your new bike?”

but what it reveals about the state of public discourse. When someone who has participated on a forum for years resorts to that level of dismissal, it exposes a deeper problem: people have forgotten how to debate without retreating into mockery the moment they feel intellectually uncomfortable.

In a Socratic sense, this thread is a case study in the failure of dialectic. Instead of engaging with arguments, testing assumptions, or clarifying definitions, participants default to:

Ridicule instead of reasoning
Status‑games instead of substance
Emotional defensiveness instead of inquiry
Performative one‑liners instead of genuine thought

Socrates would say that this is what happens when people believe they are wise but have never examined their own assumptions. The moment a topic becomes complex wealth, stress, labour, responsibility — the conversation collapses into ego protection. People stop listening. They stop questioning. They stop thinking. They lash out.

And the saddest part is that many of the people doing this are long‑term users who should know better. Years on a discussion platform should cultivate:

intellectual humility
curiosity
the ability to separate ideas from identity
the discipline to challenge arguments rather than people

Instead, the thread demonstrates how easily even experienced users abandon those virtues when confronted with a perspective they dislike.
This is not just a failure of manners. It is a failure of civic capability. A society cannot meaningfully debate economics, ethics, or policy if its members cannot tolerate discomfort or complexity without throwing rhetorical tantrums.
The thread becomes a mirror and the reflection is not flattering. It shows how many people are unprepared for real debate, not because they lack intelligence, but because they lack the habits of mind that make debate possible: patience, precision, self‑examination, and the willingness to be wrong.

If anything, the behaviour on display should prompt a question worthy of Socrates himself:
How can a community claim to value discussion when its members flee from discussion the moment it demands thought?
Until people confront that contradiction, threads like this will continue to devolve into childishness not because the topics are childish, but because the participants refuse to rise to the level the topics require.

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I mean I know what you’re going to say but I can’t resist pointing out this was clearly written by AI 😂😭

BIWI · 30/12/2025 19:35

@Coldwar2026 you do me a great disservice.

I can, of course, debate very well with anyone who has a genuine position to debate. Not someone who is a well-known user of AI/ChatGPT, as they’re unable to articulate their own views with any sense of coherence.

I mocked him, because it’s a pointless OP.

Sound and fury, signifying nothing, as someone once wrote.

Hiddenmnetter · 30/12/2025 19:36

Itsmetheflamingo · 30/12/2025 18:47

I mean I know what you’re going to say but I can’t resist pointing out this was clearly written by AI 😂😭

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It has a very distinctive style doesn’t it.

MaggieBsBoat · 31/12/2025 09:22

Kerrylass · 30/12/2025 12:13

Nothing is more stressful that being broke. Not knowing how you can pay the rent, bills, food etc.

Absolutely this.
I’ve lived in poverty, income support £70 a week, single mum.
nearly 30 years later, having given up a lot of time I could’ve had with my kids, I’m on a 6 figure salary and don’t worry about bills. Am I more stressed about my work? For sure my work gives me a lot of stress but is it as stressful as worrying about if I’ll have enough money to feed my children or pay the rent? Never! And yes I’ve been a CEO and legally responsible for financial statements and people’s salaries but I know what stress is worse and it comes from poverty.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/01/2026 10:46

Coldwar2026 · 30/12/2025 18:24

What strikes me most about this thread is not the individual comment

“Why don’t you go outside and play on your new bike?”

but what it reveals about the state of public discourse. When someone who has participated on a forum for years resorts to that level of dismissal, it exposes a deeper problem: people have forgotten how to debate without retreating into mockery the moment they feel intellectually uncomfortable.

In a Socratic sense, this thread is a case study in the failure of dialectic. Instead of engaging with arguments, testing assumptions, or clarifying definitions, participants default to:

Ridicule instead of reasoning
Status‑games instead of substance
Emotional defensiveness instead of inquiry
Performative one‑liners instead of genuine thought

Socrates would say that this is what happens when people believe they are wise but have never examined their own assumptions. The moment a topic becomes complex wealth, stress, labour, responsibility — the conversation collapses into ego protection. People stop listening. They stop questioning. They stop thinking. They lash out.

And the saddest part is that many of the people doing this are long‑term users who should know better. Years on a discussion platform should cultivate:

intellectual humility
curiosity
the ability to separate ideas from identity
the discipline to challenge arguments rather than people

Instead, the thread demonstrates how easily even experienced users abandon those virtues when confronted with a perspective they dislike.
This is not just a failure of manners. It is a failure of civic capability. A society cannot meaningfully debate economics, ethics, or policy if its members cannot tolerate discomfort or complexity without throwing rhetorical tantrums.
The thread becomes a mirror and the reflection is not flattering. It shows how many people are unprepared for real debate, not because they lack intelligence, but because they lack the habits of mind that make debate possible: patience, precision, self‑examination, and the willingness to be wrong.

If anything, the behaviour on display should prompt a question worthy of Socrates himself:
How can a community claim to value discussion when its members flee from discussion the moment it demands thought?
Until people confront that contradiction, threads like this will continue to devolve into childishness not because the topics are childish, but because the participants refuse to rise to the level the topics require.

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A thoughtful and well-argued OP, even if their opinion is controversial, should attract reasoned and well-thought out responses. That is not the case here. OP hasn't made a thoughtful reasoned or evidence based argument so there is no obligation for the responses to adhere to the standards that you have set out in your post.

Fangisnotacoward · 01/01/2026 10:49

I dunno, I mean ill give it i go. If MN would like to collectively crowdfund me until im a billionaire, ill promise ill report back and let you all know how stressful it is 😁

TheMerryJoker · 03/01/2026 01:58

watching the show billions was quite good