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Why is Holly Ramsay covered with a tablecloth?

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ellyoctober · 27/12/2025 14:39

Oh the arrogance of I’ve got TO KEEP MY DRESS from hoi polloi

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Vivi0 · 28/12/2025 19:58

Lolabear38 · 28/12/2025 19:45

Regarding his mum, I think speaking out so publicly about it is unforgivable, to be honest. Whether she had any say in the aunt speaking out so publicly or not I don’t know, but had the aunt not posted about the hen do we would likely be none the wiser and I wonder whether it would have blown up the way it has leading to their eventual dis-invite.

I understand AP’s mum was disappointed not to be invited to the hen do. However - I can only think of a handful of hen dos where the future MIL was actually invited? I didn’t invite my mum or my MIL and it was totally fine with both of them. Do draw so much public negative attention to it though is pretty unforgivable in my books. Any time AP thinks about his wedding or it gets mentioned in any press the controversy surrounding his family will also likely be brought up. There’s no undoing it or going back from it now and I suspect the only ones who will really suffer are his family - and it will be self inflicted.

I don’t think the aunt would have spoke out without the mother’s approval, to be honest.

And it seems his mother has been causing issues long before the hen.

She wasn’t happy that her extended family members were not invited to the engagement party, she confronted Gordon Ramsay about it at the party and made a bit of a scene.

She was also planning on wearing white to the wedding - despite absolutely no one apart from the bride being dressed in white yesterday. Apparently Adam offered to take her shopping for another outfit, but she didn’t show up.

And who knows what else has happened.

Keepoffmyartichokes · 28/12/2025 19:59

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 18:33

Haven’t they said she hasn’t been paid.

Doesn’t mean someone else close to her hasn’t just that she personally hasn’t. It’s a coy way to do things and very much somethings she’s asked them to write.

Even if she hasn't been paid, the fact she is going to the press is bad enough

PinkPanther57 · 28/12/2025 20:02

Agree it’s all v hard to defend.

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 20:05

Keepoffmyartichokes · 28/12/2025 19:59

Even if she hasn't been paid, the fact she is going to the press is bad enough

Yes I wouldn’t speak to family members who couldn’t hold their shit so to speak.

who knows what else they might sell or give away.

Bruisername · 28/12/2025 20:08

The whole flying the flag in distress and the publicised text message is just hammering more nails into the coffin of her relationship with him and it is very sad. I suspect she’s in an echo chamber now and has a journalist egging her on

as for discussing what HR is wearing etc - she’s an influencer! This is how she makes her money!!

PinkPanther57 · 28/12/2025 20:11

Bruisername · 28/12/2025 20:08

The whole flying the flag in distress and the publicised text message is just hammering more nails into the coffin of her relationship with him and it is very sad. I suspect she’s in an echo chamber now and has a journalist egging her on

as for discussing what HR is wearing etc - she’s an influencer! This is how she makes her money!!

Might the flag have been there before?

AliceMcK · 28/12/2025 20:12

Clarehandaust · 27/12/2025 16:53

Rent a crowd, it is a thing my daughter does extra’s work and has been surprised at the crowds shes been paid to be “in”

I’m glad you put this as I saw a news clip today and couldn’t belive people would actually take time away from their families to stand outside a church and watch random non celebs getting married especially on Christmas Day. Which brings me to WhoTF is so arrogant to get married Christmas Day and expect people to give up their Christmas family Christmas just for them.

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 20:13

AliceMcK · 28/12/2025 20:12

I’m glad you put this as I saw a news clip today and couldn’t belive people would actually take time away from their families to stand outside a church and watch random non celebs getting married especially on Christmas Day. Which brings me to WhoTF is so arrogant to get married Christmas Day and expect people to give up their Christmas family Christmas just for them.

It wasn’t Christmas Day is was Saturday

iCod · 28/12/2025 20:14

Bath during Xmas markets is horrific. Why are people eye rolling?

Bruisername · 28/12/2025 20:14

PinkPanther57 · 28/12/2025 20:11

Might the flag have been there before?

Maybe. But they turned it upside down to be ‘in distress’

AliceMcK · 28/12/2025 20:16

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 20:13

It wasn’t Christmas Day is was Saturday

Ahhh I had it in my head it was Christmas Day, apologies. Still think they are arrogant knobs anyway.

LightYearsAgo · 28/12/2025 20:18

AliceMcK · 28/12/2025 20:12

I’m glad you put this as I saw a news clip today and couldn’t belive people would actually take time away from their families to stand outside a church and watch random non celebs getting married especially on Christmas Day. Which brings me to WhoTF is so arrogant to get married Christmas Day and expect people to give up their Christmas family Christmas just for them.

Tell me you've lost track of what day it is without .......😂

Clarehandaust · 28/12/2025 20:20

LuciaMi · 28/12/2025 19:05

You think it is a child’s responsibility to ‘speak up’ when they’re being mistreated by their parents? I didn’t realise the way my parents behaved wasn’t ‘normal’ until I was well into adulthood.

I loved swimming and my parents facilitated it. However, then and now, they use that as a justification for other unacceptable behaviour. They will still say ‘We did so much for you’ any time that I disagree with them.

So that’s entirely different from the scenario that you painted at the beginning and the scenario that this Olympic champion has been brought up under.
You are literally trying to nail your colours to their mast which makes no sense whatsoever
I hope therapy works out well for you.

Seymour5 · 28/12/2025 20:20

Lolabear38 · 28/12/2025 19:45

Regarding his mum, I think speaking out so publicly about it is unforgivable, to be honest. Whether she had any say in the aunt speaking out so publicly or not I don’t know, but had the aunt not posted about the hen do we would likely be none the wiser and I wonder whether it would have blown up the way it has leading to their eventual dis-invite.

I understand AP’s mum was disappointed not to be invited to the hen do. However - I can only think of a handful of hen dos where the future MIL was actually invited? I didn’t invite my mum or my MIL and it was totally fine with both of them. Do draw so much public negative attention to it though is pretty unforgivable in my books. Any time AP thinks about his wedding or it gets mentioned in any press the controversy surrounding his family will also likely be brought up. There’s no undoing it or going back from it now and I suspect the only ones who will really suffer are his family - and it will be self inflicted.

You didn’t invite either mum, neither did my DD or DDIL. I was fine with that too. Seems divisive to include one mum perhaps?

Netcurtainnelly · 28/12/2025 20:21

Its obviously a celebrity show off wedding.
How many of Adam's school friends were there?
How many from his swimming clubs?

The Beckhams are her dad's friends. No wonder Brooklyn broke off otherwise he would have been expected to go as well. The whole brand out together.

I know its possibly normal to have a few of your parents friends there but not the whole family.

When I got married a couple of my parents good friends came. They did not bring their children.

Its bloody awful, this brand thing and we must go everywhere together.
Brooklyn has seen sense.

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 20:24

Seymour5 · 28/12/2025 20:20

You didn’t invite either mum, neither did my DD or DDIL. I was fine with that too. Seems divisive to include one mum perhaps?

Why is it divisive to invite friends family and people you love?

Would you invite someone who dislikes you to what’s meant to be a fun time?

Would you say mil deserves to be in the delivery room if mum is?

The hen is about the brides comfort and fun. Not about appeasing someone else’s feelings.

I wouldn’t invite my mil even if I did invite my mum.

I don’t know when in-laws actually started expecting to be invited to the hens/stags of their child’s future husband/wife. Weird.

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 20:25

Netcurtainnelly · 28/12/2025 20:21

Its obviously a celebrity show off wedding.
How many of Adam's school friends were there?
How many from his swimming clubs?

The Beckhams are her dad's friends. No wonder Brooklyn broke off otherwise he would have been expected to go as well. The whole brand out together.

I know its possibly normal to have a few of your parents friends there but not the whole family.

When I got married a couple of my parents good friends came. They did not bring their children.

Its bloody awful, this brand thing and we must go everywhere together.
Brooklyn has seen sense.

I don’t know the rest but I did see some swimming people mentioned in the paper 😅

Bruisername · 28/12/2025 20:33

Tbf the Ramsay kids and beckham kids spent a lot of time together so are most likely friends

BDenergy · 28/12/2025 20:34

Netcurtainnelly · 28/12/2025 20:21

Its obviously a celebrity show off wedding.
How many of Adam's school friends were there?
How many from his swimming clubs?

The Beckhams are her dad's friends. No wonder Brooklyn broke off otherwise he would have been expected to go as well. The whole brand out together.

I know its possibly normal to have a few of your parents friends there but not the whole family.

When I got married a couple of my parents good friends came. They did not bring their children.

Its bloody awful, this brand thing and we must go everywhere together.
Brooklyn has seen sense.

Or reframe that- the Beckham and Ramsay kids have grown up together. Tana and Victoria are best friends so although it’s not a given, it’s likely their kids are friends.

FYI, I didn’t have any school friends at my wedding. It’s not a character flaw.

Lolabear38 · 28/12/2025 20:35

Netcurtainnelly · 28/12/2025 20:21

Its obviously a celebrity show off wedding.
How many of Adam's school friends were there?
How many from his swimming clubs?

The Beckhams are her dad's friends. No wonder Brooklyn broke off otherwise he would have been expected to go as well. The whole brand out together.

I know its possibly normal to have a few of your parents friends there but not the whole family.

When I got married a couple of my parents good friends came. They did not bring their children.

Its bloody awful, this brand thing and we must go everywhere together.
Brooklyn has seen sense.

Just to play Devils Advocate here - I had my parents friends at my wedding - with their kids too. We all know each other really well having spent lots of time together as families so it seemed natural and normal to want them all there. For some people it happens like that.

AndSoitComesAroundAgain · 28/12/2025 20:37

Anthia Turner all over again.

PinkPanther57 · 28/12/2025 20:53

Bruisername · 28/12/2025 20:14

Maybe. But they turned it upside down to be ‘in distress’

Did they though? It wasn’t obvs inverted, might aways have been incorrectly hung & press hyping up.

Roobarbtwo · 28/12/2025 20:57

PodMom · 28/12/2025 18:31

In fairness his mum is not selling her story. The DM make it clear she has not been paid. I suspect she has asked for that line to be made clear. Unless they’re lying which I doubt, maybe I’m naive.

This

Aluna · 28/12/2025 20:57

Seymour5 · 28/12/2025 20:20

You didn’t invite either mum, neither did my DD or DDIL. I was fine with that too. Seems divisive to include one mum perhaps?

Why? A hen do is for the bride’s close friends and family. I’ve never been to a hen with a MIL present, and only a couple with the mother. It’s simply not true that brides who are close to their mothers have to invite MILs to their hen - that would be weird and completely change the vibe.

Roobarbtwo · 28/12/2025 20:58

BettysRoasties · 28/12/2025 20:24

Why is it divisive to invite friends family and people you love?

Would you invite someone who dislikes you to what’s meant to be a fun time?

Would you say mil deserves to be in the delivery room if mum is?

The hen is about the brides comfort and fun. Not about appeasing someone else’s feelings.

I wouldn’t invite my mil even if I did invite my mum.

I don’t know when in-laws actually started expecting to be invited to the hens/stags of their child’s future husband/wife. Weird.

You just like arguing for a reaction. On loads of threads