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To think that 17 degrees is not warm enough?

326 replies

Maybebaby10 · 25/12/2025 08:13

Staying with a family member who is refusing to agree that 17 degrees in a drafty living room is too cold!! I have a small child here with me and the said family member decided to sleep with the window open as they like the breeze. They also do not like to shut their bedroom doors so draft under our door into the ‘make shift’ bedroom all night. We are in England and it’s freezing at the moment. I am fuming and freezing but don’t want to ruin the day.

OP posts:
CatherinedeBourgh · 25/12/2025 11:03

Luckyingame · 25/12/2025 10:26

Actually, they DO feel pretty uncomfortable.
Speaking for myself.

Their house, their rules.

Yes, I too find most houses and restaurants way too hot. Anything above 16 is uncomfortable for me. I am constantly opening windows.

Binus · 25/12/2025 11:06

arethereanyleftatall · 25/12/2025 09:21

The answers here are interesting in that many who like it 18+, think that if their host doesn’t accommodate that, they’re being a shit host. Surely that works both ways?!? Why do the people who like it hotter trump those who like it colder?

Yes, if it's about hosting then those who like it hot would also need to accommodate preferences for lower temperatures and open windows in winter if you have guests who prefer that. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

But being practical, the best thing would be to try and work out a compromise option.

Alondra · 25/12/2025 11:08

Zanatdy · 25/12/2025 10:50

17 is freezing. I personally wouldn’t stay again.

17 degrees is freezing? I learned something new today.

PodMom · 25/12/2025 11:08

Generally at 17degrees c outside you won’t be sat around still like you will be in your house.

So you feel warmer outside due to moving about. Plus there is likely to be a radiant effect from sunlight outside which makes you feel warmer.

in your house you have cold solid surfaces such as walls and ceilings which suck up heat and again make it seem cooler.

Creu · 25/12/2025 11:09

21-23° for me. 17° would be hellish .

FletchFan · 25/12/2025 11:09

cadburyegg · 25/12/2025 08:25

YANBU

Anything below 21 degrees is too cold for me

Same. My husband mocks me for it but I feel the cold very easily, even with jumpers on.

FletchFan · 25/12/2025 11:11

Binus · 25/12/2025 11:06

Yes, if it's about hosting then those who like it hot would also need to accommodate preferences for lower temperatures and open windows in winter if you have guests who prefer that. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

But being practical, the best thing would be to try and work out a compromise option.

I'd rather be a bit hot if it meant my guests were comfortable.

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:12

Creu · 25/12/2025 11:09

21-23° for me. 17° would be hellish .

Genuine question - do you find 17 degrees outside on a summers day to be hellish and cold?

Zanatdy · 25/12/2025 11:16

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 25/12/2025 10:59

Did you pass GCSE science 😂

It might be colder than you prefer but on no one's thermometer is it freezing. Ive been to Florida in December and it wasn't much warmer than that

Jeez, people are so literal on here. Clearly I know 17 isn’t actually freezing point, but it’s too cold for a child. If you have guests, you want them to be comfortable, not constantly cold.

PodMom · 25/12/2025 11:29

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:12

Genuine question - do you find 17 degrees outside on a summers day to be hellish and cold?

If I was sat still in the shadows with no coat on then I would be uncomfortably cold. If I was moving around or in the sunshine, ideally both then I’d be less cold.

MaarvaCarassi · 25/12/2025 11:29

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:12

Genuine question - do you find 17 degrees outside on a summers day to be hellish and cold?

It’s different thought, isn’t it - you’re probably moving around outside; whereas you’re more likely to be sitting down inside.

mindutopia · 25/12/2025 11:30

My house is typically about 15c, but that’s by choice. We have plenty of money for heating, but I hate being hot. I always run the heating higher for guests or anyone who asks though.

IsItSnowing · 25/12/2025 11:31

Mine too. I’m fine outside in heat but central heating really affects me.

Creu · 25/12/2025 11:33

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:12

Genuine question - do you find 17 degrees outside on a summers day to be hellish and cold?

Genuine answer, a summers day outside and 17° inside in December are hardly comparable.

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 25/12/2025 11:35

Zanatdy · 25/12/2025 11:16

Jeez, people are so literal on here. Clearly I know 17 isn’t actually freezing point, but it’s too cold for a child. If you have guests, you want them to be comfortable, not constantly cold.

I don't think using words with a specific meaning when you don't actually mean that is being negatively literal.

Are you also being lose with language with your assurtion that 17 degrees is too cold for every single child because that's also clearly untrue

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:37

PodMom · 25/12/2025 11:29

If I was sat still in the shadows with no coat on then I would be uncomfortably cold. If I was moving around or in the sunshine, ideally both then I’d be less cold.

I’m honestly surprised people would be uncomfortably cold at that kind of temperature even if they’re just sitting down.

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:38

Creu · 25/12/2025 11:33

Genuine answer, a summers day outside and 17° inside in December are hardly comparable.

But it’s the same temperature- why is one uncomfortably cold and one a normal summers day?

lap90 · 25/12/2025 11:51

17 would be fine here. Ideal temp is probably around 18.
I sleep with the window open a crack too.

With that said, if a guest felt cold, i would increase the the heating.

Itslikesowhatever · 25/12/2025 11:55

Sounds good to me! I’d find anything more to warm.

Creu · 25/12/2025 11:55

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:38

But it’s the same temperature- why is one uncomfortably cold and one a normal summers day?

@PodMom’s post at 11:08 explained it perfectly well.

EligibleTern · 25/12/2025 11:57

The trouble with just putting a jumper on is that your hands and face are still cold, which feels absolutely horrible when you're trying to work on a laptop or read, etc.

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:57

Creu · 25/12/2025 11:55

@PodMom’s post at 11:08 explained it perfectly well.

I’ve read it, still makes no sense to me!

Zanatdy · 25/12/2025 11:57

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 25/12/2025 11:35

I don't think using words with a specific meaning when you don't actually mean that is being negatively literal.

Are you also being lose with language with your assurtion that 17 degrees is too cold for every single child because that's also clearly untrue

Oh do go and enjoy your Christmas instead of trying to be smart online.

Creu · 25/12/2025 12:03

vanillalattes · 25/12/2025 11:57

I’ve read it, still makes no sense to me!

Ok… perhaps just leave it there then? You don’t get it and that’s absolutely fine. Have you home as cold as you like, this thread discussion won’t result in someone showing up to your house and increasing your thermostat against your will.

arethereanyleftatall · 25/12/2025 12:06

Those detailing that 17 will feel different in some houses than others must be spot on. I live in a fairly new build, triple glazing etc and I promise you, 17 is absolutely fine. No one mentions it, no one wears a woolly hat, no one is shivering. It would be unbearable at 20.

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