Trail hunting ban - would you hunt the "clean boot"?

[BootHunter]

Horsey people - with the talk of an upcoming ban on trail hunting, would you consider joining a clean boot hunt as an alternative?

YANBU - Yes
YANBU - No

IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRAIL HUNTING AND CLEAN BOOT HUNTING THEN GOOGLE IT!

I'm a horse owner but I do not hunt because all there is locally to me is "trail hunting" packs. However, if there was a legitimate bloodhound pack hunting human quarry then I absolutely would join, and I can think of several friends who would too.

I personally feel that this could be a great opportunity for the local hunts to evolve into something that more people want to take part in, and probably the only thing that will stop the whole industry from closing down altogether.

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But HEY Labour will save some foxes ————-can’t wait for them to go

Well, if foxhounds are only suited to chasing foxes then I guess the breed would have to die out. But given all the bulldogs, fox terriers, poodles, lurchers, beagles, dachshunds and wolfhounds that live happy lives as pets without doing what they were bred to do, maybe foxhounds could do the same?

I'm a rural person. I would never support the hunt, and I don't know anyone who does. In fact, I would boycott any pub that hosted them, and this sentiment is common, to the point that several local pubs have recently started refusing to host hunt meets.

Don't start with all this patronising "War on rural communities" crap. You don't speak for us.

Horses and all animals can be euthanised if they are suffering ( quality of life etc )
it’s one of the caveats

I don’t know why horses are shot perhaps other methods on a large animal aren’t always as quick ?

I my area, trail hunting is just a pretense for illegal hunts. It's very apparent, barely any pretense made. I hate it, it's very cruel.

I'd support any alternative that avoided animal cruelty.

This is spot on. I'm rural too. There is not the widespread support some people seem to think!

It's an activity for a niche, rich group of arseholes who thing their fun trumps an animal's suffering, and who feel they are so special the law shouldn't apply to them.

My wolfhound exists perfectly well despite the lack of wolves to hunt. Her instincts seem perfectly suited to long walks, chasing a ball and lounging on my sofa.

Yes, if hunting is banned, accommodations would need to be made for the existing dogs, and fewer bred. But that's hardly an insurmountable difficulty.

They're all shot at the end of their working life anyway, so you'd just be bringing that moment forward.

Yep, because it's an easy fix to end a barbaric practice.

Exactly this.

All the cries from pro-hunters of 'think of the foxhounds' are quite frankly disgusting. It's nothing but manipulate.

Cost sometimes. It takes a lot of drugs to pts a large animal. Speed. It's a clean and efficient end. Lethal injection can sometimes take a while to work, especially in a scared animal in pain full of adrenalin. Disposal of the body. It can go to the hunt kennels to be eaten by the hounds. If there's drugs in the body, it can't. Then you've got the trouble of disposing of a large animal.

I have always voted Tory, but the plan to ban trail hunting by Labour is the BEST thing they have announced. Not everything is so black and white.

I’m exactly the same
Well done Labour for once

Next they need to tackle no stun slaughter

I don’t think ‘animal lovers’ hunt animals to be fair

Re euthanising horses - the knackerman will shoot, vets will use injections.

I've seen both - injection would be my preference but having had a vet totally fuck up a euthanasia by injection, which was truly horrendous, I would not hesitate to have my horse shot in an emergency.

Clean boot hunting looks like a lot of fun.

Wild boar are considered a pest here (France) and their numbers are out of control in many parts of the country. They have no natural predators so culling is necessary to keep the population healthy. I allow a small local hunt to hunt boar on my land - our hunters are animal lovers and are very respectful of the boar and other wildlife (admittedly not all hunts are).

If I weren't old and creaky I would love clean boot hunting. Ethical and a good run. Our local 'trail hunting' pack are arrogant law breakers.

Wild boar yum yummy

I've got a freezer full 😀

Clean boot hunting looks like a lot of fun.

It is! But to be honest, compared to drag hunting, bloodhounds are awfully slow. I was at an exhibition once where there was a car that was destined for a land speed record attempt. It was called Bloodhound, I nearly peed myself laughing 😃

Arguably we should be culling and eating more deer in the UK, and I say that as a vegetarian. But also as someone who understands the detrimental effects an unchecked deer population has on reforestation attempts. Venison has far less planetary impact than beef, as well.

Totally agree!

I am the biggest animal lover but I think it is stupid to ban train hunting.

All that needs to be done is better policing/checks and legal consequences for hunts that use it as a smoke screen to hunt foxes.

I certainly Don't want to see fox hounds shot because they are no longer of use either...

I've seen today that my local "trail" hunt is doing a day soon where there's a visiting pack of bloodhounds to do a day's clean boot hunting - hopefully they're reading the room and it's a MASSIVE step in the right direction and I hope that they have a really good turnout that day to make them see that it's the right thing to do!

I'm not sure if you understand the amount of police resources that would take up. I want the police out keeping people safe, not foxes.

The trail hunters have been warned by people like me for the last 20 years since fox hunting became illegal, that if they didn't get their act together and police themselves and stop (or at least divorce themself from) the many, many hunts which were actively hunting fox, that they would lose their sport altogether.

And here we are.