To think there is no way I can lose 11 stone without surgery

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Just seems a huge amount I’ve managed to lose a stone or two which I’ve now gained back but never a massive amount

Dont get the surgery!

I got it and lost 9 stone.

I gained 3 after and used mounjaro to get back to my goal weight.

Mounjaro is amazing and I wish I had used it first as i have SO MANY issues from gastric surgery that WLIs could have prevented :(

Lost 7 stone on WLI (mounjaro)took 9 months. I side effects, unbelievably easy. Maintained in 5mg for 13 months

That should say NO SIDE-EFFECTS

I lost 8 stone with keto.

Its possible without injections.

There's also a thread HERE for people with 10st or more to lose.

WLI work out at about £40 a week for me at the moment. I appreciate that it’s not within everyone’s budget, but they can be extremely effective. I have lost 11st over the past 18 months, very few side effects and none for well over a year now.

The NHS rollout of access to Mounjaro started with a criteria of BMI 40 or higher with 4 out of 5 specific weight related health conditions. Very few people qualify. Just having a BMI over 40 is sadly not sufficient.

I did it , 12 actually over a couple of years - I went to WW but only every few weeks and targeted a stone at a time as the big picture was too overwhelming. Being weighed less regularly meant if I did have a bad day or a trip then I could make up for it before next class and I gave myself every Saturday off to eat what I wanted to - I rarely over indulged but meant if I wanted a few drinks or to go for a meal etc I didn’t beat myself up

I've lost 7 in 12 months with WLI.

I did about 22 years ago. Calorie counting and consistency. It took over a year but I did it. I need to lose the same again now - gained weight after my first child, my DH was an amazing cook and when he passed suddenly I gained rather than lost, the pandemic also meant a weight gain. I can’t take WLI because I’m type 1 diabetic. I’ve lost three stone in the last four months by eating in a deficit.
wLI may help - I’ve seen people who have been overweight for years loose large amounts of weight on them, but I’ve also seen people do it by calorie counting.

You can 😀. I did it (well almost, as it was 10 stone I lost) - I went from 23 stone to 13 stone and have kept the weight off for nearly 10 years now. And I didn’t use weight loss injections.

Personally I’d found things like fad diets/big diet changes, weight loss medications and weight loss groups had never worked for me in the past (so I’m sceptical of the new injections too - at least in terms of people being able to keep the weight off that they have lost in the longer term once they have stopped them). In the end after so many years of trial and error and weight yo-yoing, I had to make my own food changes to suit me, and that I believe I can stick to for the rest of my life, in order to make it work.

But I admit it was/is very hard to do- I have had to accept that I will always have a propensity for poor food choices and be mindful of it. I must also be honest and point out that I am still nearly 2 stone overweight at the 13 stone, so still don’t look remotely slim 🤣 and I have lots of loose skin, despite losing the weight very slowly. Imo you can’t avoid that if you are losing a large amount of weight in your 30’s or older, whatever people claim (may be different in your 20’s when the skin is more elastic, providing you do enough exercise too).

However luckily I didn’t do it for aesthetic reasons but for health ones. And I had a really good reason to keep going as I wanted to become a Mum and knew that my chances were better if I got my BMI under 30 - I needed to have IVF because I’m a SMBC. So it was all worth it as I now have my DS. But If I hadn’t had that really good reason to keep going, I don’t think I would have had the determination as it’s a tough and long road.

I just wanted to share my experience as people now often seem to think that kind of weight loss isn’t possible without weight loss injections or regularly attending slimming groups etc. You don’t need them, although I’m sure some people do find them beneficial and worth the cost and/or risks. It is possible to do it without them and it’s equally possible to keep it off too - as long as imo that you have realistic expectations.

(Personally I haven’t ever been smaller than a size 12/10 stone since I went through puberty at age 11, because it’s just not my natural body shape - so staying a size 16/13 stone in my mid forties seems a reasonable goal for me. Maybe if I’d pushed harder like some do and tried to get down to that lower weight like I’d been in my early teens, then I might have failed and given up. So imo it’s important to remember to have realistic goals as well!)

Good luck to you ❤️

Honestly, the statistics say less than 5% of people will ever lose that much weight. Around 2% will lose that much and keep it off.

I had gastric sleeve surgery and lost 52kg. It has been lifechanging. I'd lost and regained so much weight over time, but in the end, my weight was killing me (I'm a real shortie). I knew I had to make it work and went privately. I'd only recommend someone does this if they work with both a dietician and a psychologist as well, as the surgery really helps, but you do still have to work at it.

I know a lot of people from the UK go to Turkey for surgery as it's a lot cheaper there.

When my GP first suggested surgery I went home and cried, then read all the Gastric sleeve threads here, phoned a friend who had the surgery and cried a bit more, but it has been nothing short of lifechanging.

The sooner chronic weight issues are treated as a medical issue, the better.

I lost 7 stone in a year years ago, way before weight loss injections. You have to really want to change otherwise it will never work. I had tried and failed to ‘diet’ various times, notably as a New Year’s resolution for a few years running. One day I just woke up and snapped randomly, it wasn’t even a Monday of January, just a random Thursday in April or whatever.

Willpower and desire to change go a long way. I started running initially by running up and down my garden. Not a big garden, I’d just run laps up and down it because I was so embarrassed about how I looked and how unfit I was. I think I had to lose about 4 stone before I felt confident enough to run on the streets.

People now just use injections but whatever I guess.

It is of course possible, plenty of people have done it before WLI and surgery became a thing. You need to change your mindset though - it will never work if you have convinced yourself that it's not possible. Throw yourself into a sensible diet and exercise plan - you will be physically and mentally so much better for it. Keep going, you'll get there!

I lost 6 stone on slimming world, regained it after kids then been up and down for years. Highest weight was 17.5st, I’m now 9st 10 because of Mounjaro, absolutely life changing after struggling with my weight since a teen

Look up Slimpod. It will help with all the head stuff. I found it hard to believe but am living proof.

To need to loose that much there will be multiple treatments you will benefit from - among them addressing food knowledge, habits, health challenges, priorities, ‘personal rules and beliefs’, and most importantly probably self esteem. Slimpod will address these things layer by layer and they are difficult to address and need more than a club.

it may be all you need, plus time. Or can be used alongside any club or the wli I think.

Mounjaro for sure. It costs but you’ll save a lot in food costs on it too.

You say above you can’t afford it but how would you afford surgery? Mounjaro will be cheaper than surgery and a lot lower risk.

I've had weight loss surgery, here in UK and have lost 7 stone, it's been amazing, everyone I know whose been on wli, as soon as they try to come off it the weight goes back on and more, even with a maintenance dose.My sister in-law lost 4.5 stone and put 10lb back on in the first month being off it.My friend also lost 6 stone and has but 2 back on in a few months.Both are now considering wls.

Unfortunately OP may qualify for surgery but not WLI

I had bypass surgery (at a highly recommended place in the UK). Lost, but only 3.5st of the six I wanted to and never felt like I had great restriction. The pandemic then messed things up and I started gaining again. I also very quickly lost the lack of food noise that the surgery gives you (but not for life). I started Mounjaro earlier this year (at the same weight I was pre-surgery) and immediately felt a peace with my eating that I have never felt in my life before. I no longer have any desire to deal with difficult issues via food so I have HAD to find alternative, and healthier, ways. I’ve now lost the same as I did post surgery and I feel really confident it will continue (I accept I’ll probably have to stay on them for life). Have found it very easy to make good lifestyle changes on MJ as well, much easier than post surgery when my brain still wanted everything. Really wish they’d been around before I permanently altered my body and intestinal absorption. It’s okay to say you need help OP but I would definitely go for WLI rather than surgery. You can stop the injections any time you want to - I wish I could reverse the surgery.

There are people on the long running support threads for Mounjaro who have had gastric surgery and are now using weight loss injections as they regained after surgery. Sadly all methods of weight loss have a significant risk of weight regain in the years afterwards.

I am 3lb off 5 stone loss and I would like to loose additional 2.5 stone. Walking and My fitness pal for me. I go to the gym 4x week, I walk on treadmill on incline, I get more than 10000 steps a day, my daily average across the full year is 12800 and I make sure I eat under 1500 calories per day (most days). It's hard work but it gets easier.

I follow someone who had a gastric surgery (sleeve I think) she talks about all the issues it causes. It’s not an easy fix. She’s had years of extreme yo-yo dieting and food addiction and it’s been a last resort for her.
id try anything else first. My local gym is free through the council for 12 weeks if you are over a certain weight. Walking is amazing, it’s really undervalued in weight loss but does help.

Yep. I am one of them.

I can lose on the injections but I have thyroid and autoimmune issues along with food compulsions and i regain so easily :(

I agree with this, if you have 11 stone to lose, sensible lifestyle changes will make a huge difference.

If you have a BMI over 40 (which is likely if you need to lose 11 stone), and 4 co-morbidities, you may be eligible for WLI on the NHS.