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AIBU to let 7 year old ds pull a sickie on schools sports day?

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titchy · 10/06/2008 20:25

ds is a rather sensitive 7 year old in Yr 2. He is a bit immature emotionally and desperate for a best friend, since his best friend left school two years ago (ds still talks about him and feels guilty that his freind might have left cos ds bit him - obviously we have re-assured till we're blue int he face). He now has a small friendship group and we have a contender for a best friend tho' ds still has huge issues with his temper, but socialy he is getting more and more confident.

However he is quite small, and rather behind in gross motor skills (cannot ride a bike yet) so will undoubtedly come last in all the races he is in, as he has for the last two years. The magnitude of this for him is enormous. Although we stress it's not winning it's the taking part etc etc he HATES/is embarrassed by always being last. He feels the odd one out. He feels everyone laughs at him cos he can't run fast. He has been absolutely inconsolable the last few evening as the dreaded day draaws closer.

So I am thinking of phoning school on the morning of the day and saying he's ill. AIBU? FWIW I wholeheartedy agree that children need to understand that they have to do stuff they don;t like sometimes (dd also hates sports day but she will be taking part). However in ds' case I think it will destroy his self confidence which we've been building and at 7 years old I don't really see theh pont of him doing someting which has such an effect on him emotionally.

So...am I?

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MUM23ASD · 11/06/2008 09:21

YANBU I have done the same in similar situations many times - and until schools are as 'inclusive' as they claim...plan to do so for many years to come.

themildmanneredjanitor · 11/06/2008 09:24

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Uriel · 11/06/2008 09:36

YANBU.

Keep him off and keep building his confidence.

BalloonSlayer · 11/06/2008 09:38

Sorry I haven't read everything properly but do sympathise.

What we do is we tell the kids that they will get a special treat "if they try their very best" and make sure they know it's not dependent on them winning.

Then we praise them (last or not) for doing their very best and when they get home there's a toy or something waiting on their beds.

But I don't blame you for wanting to take him out.

Chocolateteapot · 11/06/2008 09:42

I don't know, it is a hard one. At DD's school they didn't start the competitive element until Year 2. Her teacher kindly took me aside and warned me that she had volunteered for the sack race. It was hugely awful at the time, I was muttering under my breath about child abuse in Ikea shopping bags (very strange sacks they were) and DD was spectacularly last, took her about an extra 3 minutes to finish.

But she jumped her little heart out bless her and got a huge cheer at the end. She was so delighted with that it actually boosted her confidence and came out completely unscathed.

Then in Year 3 she did actually have an appointment for physio at the co-ordination clinic (she has dyspraxia, hypermobility & low muscle tone) so she missed it.

This year's is looming but I'm not worried now. A few weeks ago there was a chance for the Year 4 children to go for an athletics taster session at the Upper School and to my complete amazement DD volunteered to go. She was last in most of the stuff up there but it didn't seem to matter, she enjoyed taking part and was very proud of her certificate that she got for taking part.

I wonder if she hadn't had the chance to learn that coming bad isn't as bad as you think it will be, whether she would have been confident enough to try. She has struggled academically as well so she gets it on both sides. I did consider ringing in sick for her for the Year 2 sports day but am glad I didn't.

Excuse the long rambling, I'm thinking it through. I think on reflection that it would be best to talk to the teacher as others have suggested to let them know just how much it is worrying him, how you feel that you are just building his confidence up and you don't want it completely shattered and can the school suggest a way that he can come out of this feeling OK about things.

snorkle · 11/06/2008 09:43

Dd pulled a sickie on sports day at about that age (year 2 as I recall) - I actually fell for it the first time, as she never usually complains of being ill, but rumbled her when it was rained off & postponed for a week & she tried the same trick again. I did keep her off in the end though as she was quite stressed by the whole thing and was young enough that I didn't feel it was right to force her do it. The ironic thing is that she's actually quite good at athletic type sports & would have probably won or at least come in the top 3 in several events but just really didn't like the whole competitive atmosphere. It only happened the one year - she's taken part quite happily ever since so I don't regret the decision.

diplodocus · 11/06/2008 09:46

YANBU. Ideally, I think a dental appt would be the way to go, as it means no lies. But as adults we also recognise stress as an illness, and your son seems to be suffering from it about this sports day.
It's all very well for people saying that it's give and take and he gets a chance to excel in other areas, but others who come last academically don't have to suffer public humiliation in the same was as sports day.

Can you tell I always came last too

TodayToday · 11/06/2008 09:51

Awww - your DS sounds like a lovely little boy. I haven't faced this exact situation but I do have a sensitive 5yo girl and I know how much effort it takes on our part to always be building her up to things that other children approach so breezily.

I don't know what to advise. If you think the school would be understanding then i would talk to them first. I wanted to offer my support to you and say that absolutely, I would be putting my son's sensitivity 'issues' over and above the issue of not taking part on sports day. He's right at that age where self esteem can start to get damaged, in yet still so young to be able to evaluate situations so well. Maybe in a few years he'll be more happy to participate.

PuppyMonkey · 11/06/2008 10:07

I skived off loads of Sports Days at school and it never did me any harm. Total waste of time, they are. Have a chilled out day at home instead

titchy · 11/06/2008 10:18

Gosh such a lot of responses thanks everyone.

I have to admit that if someone asked me what to do about the same situation I'd say FGS make them participate, got to learn about joining in, supporting your house, that it doesn't matter if you're not sporty, people won;t think any different of you, have to learn to deal with losing etc etc etc. And for our older child I do stick with that (she is also spectacularly last at sports - as was I - obviously a family thing!), but she is a very straightforward, middle of the road child. A bit of a sheep, joins in with everything cos that's what you do, doesn't really question, just breezes along reasonably confidently. She does hate Sports Day too, but doesn't worry about being last.

Ds OTOH is a completely different kettle of fish. Thinks a lot about things, is very much his own person and quite aware ofother people's feelings as well as his won. All great qualities which we want to encourage, but ATM he doesn't quite have the self confidence to be himself IYSWIM. Socially he is actually quite popular, and learning about joining in with playground games even if he doesn't want to play whatever version of 'tag' the others are playing. But he doesn't feel particularly popular, having not quite grasped the fact that boys tend to have groups of friends while girls tend to have one best friend then a few others (and all the trauma that goes with that...). However he almost does have a best friend (somewhat engineered by me/circumstance/joint love of Mario Cart) so I don't want to paint a picture of a very unhappy little boy, but he is quite complex, with, I feel, quite adult emotions to deal with, but not the maturity to deal with them. I am confident (even if he isn't) that his self belief and confidence will grow over the next year or two, but honestly can't see the point of making him do something he is getting so stressed about.

I do take everyone's point about not lying to the school - I hadn't really thought that one through and I have to say I agree it's not a good idea. The format of the day won't change - it's been like this for years! It is actually a really nice, supportive school, but could do with a better balance of competetive stuff. I might take this further and suggest a different sort of public competition that enables children with abilities in other areas to shine publically....

I think the way to go is to suggest to him that if he feels like he has a head ache on the morning of the day then I'll consider him to not be well enough for school and keep him off (need to make sure dh goes though to support our other child ). I'm a bit loathed to bring it to his teacher's attention TBH - he will still have to take part, and if I phoned in sick she'd be somewhat suspicious if I'd told her how he was feeling.

It's not for another few weeks anyway so plenty of time to talk to him about it.

Thanks again everyone, much appreciated.

(Funny how many posters still remember the agony of the school sports day isn't it!)

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titchy · 11/06/2008 10:18

Gosh that was long - sorry

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AtheneNoctua · 11/06/2008 10:25

You could always put your hand on his forehead the night before and say "Oh dear I think you have fever" and he'll say, no I'm fine. Then take his temperature and say "no I'm afraid you are sick. Pity. You might not be able to go to Sports Day tomorrow" He'll never know he wasn't actually sick... and neither will the school.

mousemole · 11/06/2008 10:31

titchy, I am with you, give him the day off but dont let him know you lied to school. Could you make arrangements for a 'special trip' somewhere whcih would be your reason to him for why he isn't attending Sports Day ?

titchy · 11/06/2008 10:48

It would be lovely to do a special trip - but unfortunately dd would then feel VERY left out as she will be at sports day! Think I will go with Athene's suggestion (and next year book a long weekend away that just so happens to coincide with the bloody sports day!).

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SilentTerror · 11/06/2008 11:16

My Ds,now 12,has dyspraxia and hated sports day until he was in year 6 really. I must admit I invented an appointment for him on a couple of sports days throughout his time in primary school. We went off and did something he enjoyed doing for the afternoon.
However,looking back I think the problem was more on my side than his tbh. Eventually he sort of 'caught up' and sports day was not a problem,so I would say let him miss it for now and review next year.
(my DS still cannot ride a bike)

branflake81 · 11/06/2008 11:39

But life IS competetive. Surely kids need to learn to deal with that, even if it means coming last?

snowleopard · 11/06/2008 11:51

It is, but you're not generally forced to compete at things you're crap at. At least in life you get to play to your strengths.

It also strikes me that schools don't hold special spelling or drawing or music or maths puzzle days where every last person is required to compete in public no matter how hard they find those subjects, and be seen to fail (and even worse "let down" their house - shudder) by everyone.

diplodocus · 11/06/2008 12:02

Agree with snowleopard - also why just because it's sport should you have to come last in front of a host of grinning mums, dads and the rest of the school. If the school publically paraded kids's failings in other areas of life (e.g. academic work) there'd be an outcry! Any other public display (e.g. academic achievement awards) just celebrates those who are particularly successful - they don't highlight who comes bottom. (Bitter, moi?

SummatAndNowt · 11/06/2008 12:02

nice post snowleopard

AtheneNoctua · 11/06/2008 12:49

Branflake, I would normally agree with you. I think competition is good for kids and I think we teach them to be a punch of pansies these days in general. However, this particular child is "quite small, and rather behind in gross motor skills" so he isn't entering a fair competition. Forcing him to go to sports day is not going to do anything for him, except make him feel bad. He has a physical disadvantage that isn't going to be improved by entering him in competitions he is all but guaranteed to lose.

Or did I read too much into the "quite small, and rather behind in gross motor skills"?

bundle · 11/06/2008 12:50

can see this from both sides - wanting to protect him and also wanting to develop his coping skills/independence in the big bad world...what a dilemma. agree school could be doing a lot more to help him

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titchy · 11/06/2008 13:46

snowleopard you're quite right. Whilst I do agree that dcs ought not be shielded from some of life's harsher lessons, I do have big issues with sports days generally.

Firstly individual children's abilities in this area are so publically displayed, unlike any other area of school life. As diplodocus says if they paraded kids' failings in Maths or Literacy or whatever the Head would be hanged (hope the pedants appreciate the use of the word 'hanged' rather than 'hung'!) drawn and quartered, and rightly so. Can you imagine the rumpus if children's SATS results were publically posted?

Secondly it's a house competition, so along with the public parading of the kids' poor performance they also have the guilt of letting their house down - at least generally in life if you lose at something because you're bad at it, it's only you that loses, you're not also letting a whole load of other people down.

Thirdly the odds are stacked against some kids. If you lose at a game of Monopoly for example it's just the luck of the draw, and with better dice throws next time you might win. But some kids are just never going to do anything other than come last in sports. And not just short arse, maybe mildly dyspraxic kids like my ds, but think about those with more serious physical difficulties.

I know this has moved on since my OP, but it's an interesting debate generally - how to enable kids to learn that losing is OK, whilst not destroying their self esteem.

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snowleopard · 11/06/2008 13:50

This is not even just about losing though is it - it's the public humiliation too. It is one thing to accept that you're not very good at something and will come last. That's hard in itself but a lesson worth learning. But to have it on public display is I think a step too far - and as you and others have said, would be totally unacceptable in any other subject.

This thread seems to have turned the other way now titchy! Will it be a day off for DS then?

missyhissey · 11/06/2008 14:15

Not read the whole thread but just from your op I would say you've presented a very good case for letting him stay off school for that day.

You know your ds best and from what you've said it would seem that the disadvantages in being forced to take part in this sports day far outweigh any benefits.

If he's made to take part, this could be one of the memories he's discussing with his therapist in 20 years time

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