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AIBU?

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Original poster

to think that people should have moved so I could get on the bus with a pram, grrrrr

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HappyNewYearFeet06 · 10/06/2008 16:23

Sorry to rant but it annoyed me and I let them know.

The bus turned up and I had been waiting patiently. However the bus stopped further down from where it usually does so people who had only just turned up at the bus stop got on before me. Anyway, I showed my ticket and got on but there were people sitting in the 2 spaces that are there for wheelchair/prams. There were plenty of seats nearer to the back of the bus but they wouldn't budge. The driver asked if I could fold the pram. I couldn't, its huge and I had baby and shopping too so it would have been impossible unless I had suddenly sprouted 20 arms!.

The driver and another gentleman suggested people move but they just ignored them. So I ranted out loud about rude people and had to get off of the bus again. I had to get a taxi home as another bus is an age away. The taxi cost £8.20 and I already had bought a return for the bus.

Grrrr, sorry gabbled on but it annoyed me.

AIBU to be annoyed?? Should I send a ranting letter to the bus company or the local newspaper ranting about laxy arsed people that can't move to the back of the bus. (Sorry, hot and bothered!)

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nametaken · 10/06/2008 16:25

you were too soft. you should have told the people that those spaces are for prams and stood there until they moved. Getting off the bus just gives them what they want.

belgo · 10/06/2008 16:25

That's very annoying! Unfortunately there are some incredibly selfish people around.

belgo · 10/06/2008 16:27

the problem is though nametaken is that with these sorts of people, arguing could cause more problems.

avenanap · 10/06/2008 16:28

I always move. I remember moving because I could see a lady with a buggy waiting to get on then someone else without a buggy sat there instead . It's annoying and I really do hope they wake up with lice in their armpits. I'm not surprised you are annoyed though. You are not being unreasonable but I think we live in a world where we can't tell people where to sit (unfortunatly). This is the price we pay for freedom!

nametaken · 10/06/2008 16:28

don't have to argue, just stand there holding every one up waiting for them to move.

I bet they were pensioners.

EffiePerine · 10/06/2008 16:28

I would tell them to move. If it were a wheelchair they would have to shift.

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HappyNewYearFeet06 · 10/06/2008 16:28

nametaken, I knew that as soon as I got off. I was sooo hot and bothered and dd was tired, I didn't have the energy to argue anymore and just wanted to get home. I got to the taxi and said to him 'Please could you take me home because the bus won't', lol!.

Yes very selfish people. If the bus had been full I would have fully understood. There were no other prams, wheelchairs etc...

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fryalot · 10/06/2008 16:29

YANBU

You should write a ltter to the bus company, but try not to make it too ranting as the driver did try to help you. In fact, you could make it a letter complimenting the driver's attempts to get the ignorant twats to move.

I suppose they could have been disabled and not very well able to move to the back of the bus?

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HappyNewYearFeet06 · 10/06/2008 16:31

Yep pensioners, well some of them. They were quite capable of moving though. I hope they wake up with more than just lice in their armpits, ggrrrrrrr!!

The gentleman that suggested they move did say to them before I got on that I was in the queue waiting, I heard him. So they ample time to move before I got on and they ignored him too.

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MrsWeasley · 10/06/2008 16:36

I use the buses quite a lot and have seen bus drivers telling people to move.

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HappyNewYearFeet06 · 10/06/2008 16:36

Quite capable of moving as most of them were on the bus on the way into town too. Quite capable of walking around town too.

Don't worry about hoodies, its the pensioners you want to worry about, lol!

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HappyNewYearFeet06 · 10/06/2008 16:38

The bus driver asked if I could fold the pram and I said no and he then looked around and the gentleman near him suggested people. The driver wasn't extremely helpful as he didn't wait until they did move. He was qutie happy to go without me even though there was space.

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QueenyEisGotTheBall · 10/06/2008 16:38

OMG!! this happened to me about a week ago!! it must be an epidemic i cant stand rude people who think it is their right to obstruct everyone else just because they can!! i got on the bus with my DD in her pram and was told to get off the bus because there was only standing room left as people were sat in the spaces provided for prams and wheelchairs! i refused as the bus driver said he couldnt/wouldnt refund my fare. i stood still until the idiots (teen girls btw and 1 middle aged woman) decided to move. i got a few dirty looks but i dont care!! i dont mind standing up to allow others to sit but when it comes to getting my daughter home i DO mind waiting in the spitting rain! bloody people need to be given a kick up the bum sometimes!! YANBU!!! cos if you are so am i and im not
xx ei xx

avenanap · 10/06/2008 16:38

Pensioners! Have you noticed how much litter they leave on the buses? I don't drive so use the bus quite alot to take/collect ds from school. All of the used bus tickets dropped on the floor or left on the seats belong to OAPs. I hate the selfish sods that sit on the isle seat and put their bags on the other seat so no one can sit down, especially when the bus is full. Sorry. Rant over. Sorry I hijacked.

bellavita · 10/06/2008 16:41

These people that sit in those spaces make me mad - they sit there thinking you won't see them and hoping that no one will get on with a pushchair.

My DS's are 11 and 8 now, so not had to use a pushchair for a long time, but I remember many a time on the park and ride bus asking people to move. I was lucky in all those times that they either moved when asked or the driver told them as I was getting on.

Grrr I feel angry for you.

Kimi · 10/06/2008 16:49

How rude, (them not you) It never fails to amaze me how rude/selfish/bordering on stupid people on public transport can be.

I use the bus a lot and have often been taken back by how rude people can be when it comes to push chairs/wheelchairs/priority seating.

A few weeks ago I was at the bus station having just missed the bus, about 2 minuets in to a 20 minuet wait a lady with a pram and fresh baby came and waited with me.
We started chatting, baby was 2 weeks old (brave woman out on a shopping trip with baby pram shopping and needing to get the bus)
Any way we had a lovely chat about prams (much posher then when DS2 was a baby 8 years ago,) nappies, sleep, labour and feeding (she was a nurseing mum and it was almost feeding time as her top was starting to show) So a few other people are now waiting and bus comes and is ready to let everyone on opening both sets of doors when a woman with her elderly mother in a wheelchair hops on the back and in to the wheelchair/pram space. She had not been waiting for the bus (our buses don't really have room for two chairs/prams) the new mum was perplxed as the pram would not fit on. A young chap told the driver that the woman with the chair had not been waiting for the bus and the mum had, this was backed up by everyone at the stop, woman with the chair is now saying "but I have a wheelchair" I need to get home, baby has now worked out it is food time and is screaming, new mum is almost in tears and everyone else is saying it is very unfair and wheelchair woman should get off, wheelchair woman is now swearing at driver to just get the F bus moving (not helping her case) so driver says he will not move the bus till she gets off after 5 mins she gives in and gets off F-ing and blinding at everyone.

New mum is now upset and embaressed but gets on the bus thanking everyone and the driver.

It is parking spaces all over again but now on buses.

Happynewfeet I would have parked my buggy in their bloody feet not paid out for a cab.

Alderney · 10/06/2008 16:50

I've written in the past to our bus company after a similar situation, and I was told that those spaces are NOT for prams - they are for wheelchairs, although prams can use them if there are no wheelchairs. If however a wheelchair was to want to come on, I'd either have to get off or fold my pram up.

I suspect that the ignoring people are probably like the people who park in Baby and Child spaces -they KNOW they aren't actually enforceable and that the driver would certainly not enter into any dialogue about moving them as they don;t have to move.

VictorianSqualor · 10/06/2008 16:53

I see this all the time, if there was o room I'd ask them to move.
I often get pissed off on the bus, I've recently complained about one of the drivers that had a go at my 3yr old son for pressing the bell when he wasn't even touching it, how dare he speak to my son like that!

Kimi · 10/06/2008 16:54

Queue jumping is wrong whether you have a wheelchair of not.
Having a wheelchair is not a god given right to be rude and selfish.

TheDullWitch · 10/06/2008 16:55

Don't have such a huge pram.

And fold it up. That's what everyone else has had to do since beginning of time. That way lots more mothers (and other people, even) could get on the bus.

I keep seeing old people standing whilst ablebodied mothers take up huge amounts of space with these mega-buggies. LIke they have a right, an entitlement above everyone else!

avenanap · 10/06/2008 16:58

old people shouldn't be left to stand, they should be given a seat by people who are fit and healthy or given a child's seat (the child can sit on parents lap). There should be a space for everyone.

fiodyl · 10/06/2008 17:22

Same thing has happened to me in the past. the bus driver can ASK them to move but can't MAKE them move.Most of the time people will move but a few times Ive had to get off and wait for the next bus.

Our buses have 6 fold down seats and it says that they are for ! wheelchair user or 3 pushchairs(plus parent) but in the past when there has been 3 pushchairs already Ive stood up and shifted the pushchairs about a bit to make space for another one.

Its not just old people either on sunday a woman with her son (age9/10?)got on the bus ahead of us.He wanted to sit on the foldy chair, so she let him and sat there too and put her shopping on another space! I had to fold my pushchair and hold DD while I stood up as buses are 1 an hour on a sunday. Luckilyi didnt have shopping and was only going 3 stops.

VictorianSqualor · 10/06/2008 17:23

TheDullWitch, how the hell do you collapse a buggy/pram and hold the baby????
I have a buggy which is a chassis and car seat, so I can take the car seat off and collapse the chassis but it is still really hard.
Once child is of the age to walk on the bus then fair enough, collapse it, and if you use the bus often get a small stroller but I really don't see how it is meant to be done with a baby.
Also if there is room on the bus for the buggy, if these people moved to the seat just behind them surely it's just common courtesy to move?
I always stand up and collapse the folding chairs if someone else gets on with a buggy.

2shoes · 10/06/2008 17:25

buy a cheap folding buggy for bus travel. that is what I did back in the dark ages before accessible buses.

spicemonster · 10/06/2008 17:27

I have got a teeny volo now and I can collapse it one handed. Bus drivers aren't obliged to let you on if you won't fold the buggy. But it is really crap of people not to move. I would have stood in the gangway until they stood up but I'm dead bolshy

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