To ask which historical crossroads you wonder about?

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For me it’s wondering what would’ve happened had Catherine of Aragon had a son and Henry hadn’t divorced her. Country may well be totally different.

We used to pass the spot where fell and my DH would tell people he fell on the railway line . ( which is there now )

The famine was a long time before the war, it would probably have gone ahead in some form is my gut feeling.

No the horror of it

that would defo end the monarchy - who could face him then those girls

We didn’t do some heroic battle - the weather stopped the armada being successful and we were able to take advantage - I think it blew back into port or got split up at sea

Don't think the dynamic would have been the same with Richard Burton, that's what made it a great film instead of just a good film.

What if Charles had married Camilla back in the 70s
or worse Andrew had been the eldest!

If Elvis was still alive.
If we have never joined the EU

If we never been invaded ny William The Conquerier

There was a pretty serviceable anglophone block just like that prior to the Brexit referendum.
Westminster has nobody’s interests at heart but its own, as we all have seen over and over again.
Proposing that Ireland rejoin this awkward union in order to improve or ease conditions for English overlordship of four nations via Parliament is (in my opinion) indicative of heavy drug use, inebriation, or having recently arrived from Mars 🤣

Wasn’t James the brother of Jesus?

Its well known on the West coast of Ireland where many ships shipwrecked. There is a Armada museum in Sligo I think and a monument at Spanish point beach in Co Clare. Possibly a lot more, I'm not very well informed. However when I was growing up if someone had dark hair and tanned or sallow skin it was always said they had Spanish blood. Apparently many shipwrecked sailors stayed on and integrated. So the story goes anyways.

You might be thinking of William Pennn and the Quakers rather than the swivel-eyed, anti-everything lot who preceded them.
Maryland was settled as a Catholic state early on, and was considerably more liberal than states under far stricter DIY ‘Puritan’ aegis.

But yeah the core early migration on religious grounds was actuated in large part by a wish to be free to exercise intolerance without being corrected for it by the Law.

If the Rothschilds didn’t exist!

Probably William penn and quakers - I didn’t know they went so they could be intolerant!!!

Yes this one I often ponder on too!

I was just thinking the same about Farage and Johnson’s parents!

Indeed!
Out of all my family on both sides, via my 19th century-born grandparents (2 from Cork city, 1 from Spanish Point (by coincidence!), and 1 from Roscommon) and all Irish going back to the Ark, my Aunt Rita (the Cork city branch of this tree) stood out like a rare species in a text book.
She had jet black hair and eyes, and skin that'd be nut brown after five minutes between rain showers.
She looked nothing at all like my father and we all were of the belief that centuries ago a Spanish soldier had survived the wreckage of his ship on the West coast and though people didnt move around much in a very rural country, his blood had somehow got down to Cork.
(Unless one or two ships were wrecked off the south coast too? Cork harbour is treacherous at the best of times)
I know my aunt always scoffed at this shipwreck stuff.

I don't know enough about genetics to know if those popular DNA tests would locate Iberian traces in my own blood, if it is really my aunt Im ‘investigating’. Maybe historical foreign gene blips only show up here and there, and not across the entire descendant branch?

Anyway, it was always such a gripping and terrifying story for us kids.
Those poor Spanish soldiers though.
Philip II was such a so and so. (Serial bridegroom too. He’s like Zelig in European courts in the mid 16th century, no land-rich princess was safe, including Mary’s younger sister!)

And what if Caesar had accepted the crown?

If covid didn't occur and people didn't show their insane and dictorial colours would I be happier in my little rose coloured bubble

Teehee 😂

Frugalfashionista87 · Today 19:55
If the Rothschilds didn’t exist

What would have happened if the Rothschilds didn’t exist?

MissFancyDay

Exhibition of Richard IIIs attire included a jerkin and trousers. He had an Italian tailor and his jackets cut to disguise his spinal curvature(as top Italian tailors still do and disguise gentlemen’s‘imperfections’.

Kings were trained as part of kingship in the skills to fight alongside their men, otherwise, without being seen to lead they’d all go back to their villages and farms.

So the what if he didn’t lead his army doesn’t hold, he did, and Shakespeare’s play was to ingratiate himself with Elizabeth 1 by making out Richard was responsible for the murder of the Princes in the Tower.

The Ludendorff offensive could have worked without the arrival of US troops in respond to the Zimmerman telegram. I don’t place too much importance on the Lusitania in terms of US involvement. The tactics though of the offensive were flawed and the lack of discipline of what was by then largely a conscript army, certainly didn’t help either.
It was fair enough to punish Germany to an extent but the banning of Germany from the League of Nations shows that the desire for long term peace was not the priority at the ‘peace conference’.
There definitely wouldn’t be a WWII without WWI though.

For me, what if Richard III had won at the Battle of Bosworth Field. He'd already created some new laws benefiting the common people, I think he'd have been an excellent King.

Being from Northern Ireland I have wondered if the 1798 United Irishmens rebellion had been successful.

If the Sunningdale Agreement had worked out.

If more people had listened to moderate voices like John Hume.

Loving this OP I've learnt a few things!

My Politics teacher said the GFA was the sunningdale agreement for slow learners

They did, Jesus said "who is my mother, who are my brothers" when he was told they were outside...the theory is that we don't hear from Jesus from the age of 12 where is is arguing law with the scholars in the temple until he was 30 because Joseph died young and he needed to run the family carpentry business until his brothers could take over.