Right to bear arms

[Another2356]

I lived in the USA for 8 yrs and all my neighbours had guns, as a Brit I totally disagreed with this…. However since returning to the UK over the last 10 years, I’ve started to think they have a point. If UK law changes and I can purchase guns to protect myself and my family, I will absolutely do this. I feel I have the right to protect myself as the police are not available.

Making guns available doesn't protect you, it means lots more people who shouldn't have guns will have guns. That puts your family at greater risk.

If you’re a normal person, not a criminal or gang member, the person your gun is most likely to kill is a member of your family. I read that with statistics many years ago.

Because there are very few guns being passed around in the criminal fraternity currently.

If the general public were able to get hand guns legally then there would be vast numbers of guns knocking around - just as in USA.

The more guns there are the more crimes involving guns. More deaths. Obviously.

Wow did you not see the college shooting?

Felons aren't allowed to buy them in the US but, with so many in circulation, they can easily acquire them.

If you think introducing a law that says "criminals can't have guns" means they wont get guns then, presumably, you think murders and other violence don't happen because we have laws against those.

🎣 10/10 but, seriously OP, get a life. You wrote this on a Saturday night, do you really have nothing better to do than trolling social media?

Yes, OP, I'd also feel much safer with a 4x higher murder rate, 3 x per week school shootings, gun violence becoming the leading cause of death of children, and the knowledge that my crazy angry neighbour who doesn't like how I park (on my own drive) could carry a gun.
Idiot.

Deaths by murder per 100,000 people in the UK is 1.4. Death by car accident per 100,000 is 2.4.

The UK is pretty safe it is just the media focus makes people scared.

Before people start screaming about our road safety record it is one of the safer countries to drive in.

There's just been another shooting (not sure how many victims right now) at a US campus. I think guns must be regulated, not necessarily completely banned because that's not realistic, but properly regulated. How many mass shootings is that going to take?

Agree 100 % . Then we can start having those drills in schools where the kids have to hide as someone stalks the classrooms.

I dint think it will ever change in America sadly, they seem to just accept it
I was watching a Netflix documentary last week called empty rooms ( I think) about all the empty bedrooms of the children killed in school shootings ,it was heartbreaking.

In the USA it was the right to bear a musket not a semi automatic assault rifle or whatever they can have todayrifle. I’d live to see the supreme court limit it to whatever was available when the law was passed. If they did and could actually enforce gun crime would disappear so quickly.

Get off our message board @Another2356

We aren’t interested in hosting Trump’s minions here.

UK law is never going to change. Quite right too.

Yes and every other nutter in the UK will also want guns to protect themselves. So then everyone has guns, including all the nutters. Great. We'd all feel really safe. 🙄

I remember years ago I worked at a major tourist attraction. We had a spot of bother with a drunk who took exception to having to pay and threw a bin at security and got a bit fighty. The police were called and they dealt with him.

A baffled Amercia tourist asked why the police didn't draw their guns but instead physically subdued him. I explained police here aren't routinely armed, because generally criminals (or indeed anyone) ren't armed and vice versa. I then explained the concept of armed police and they found the fact we have special unit of armed police that only get called out when needed the funniest concept they had ever heard of.

Also, is this one of Farage's stooges trying to test the waters? Doesn't toad face want to legalise hand guns?

Now Bondai beach! The Australians have a nutter too - attack on Jewish festival. On top of Brown university - an Ivy League university in Rhode Island. It’s very rare in Aus as they have gun laws. Much less rare in USA. They believe carrying guns saves lives. This is how the gun lobby sees carrying guns which is madness.

Even with proper training, accidents happen.

More soldiers were injured or killed by their own pistols in WW2 than enemy soldiers.

Go out Christmas shopping someone feels threatened gets out their gun tried to shoot someone they think is looking at them the wrong way accidentally shoots dead a child, buts ok just protecting meself

I do wonder the iq level of people who think guns are a great idea

Just wait and see how safe you’d feel knowing everyone had a gun. If you need some help with your anxiety just look at the stats for gun violence in the states compared to here. Guns aren’t reserved for innocent people protecting themselves - they’re available to everyone.

one of the major reasons I immigrated from the states to the Uk was how unsafe I felt around all those guns. A neighbour’s child shot his friend by accident. I had a gun pulled on me while out clubbing. My friend was carjacked at gunpoint. These are not things I worry about now and it’s so freeing.

you are very wrong

I’d feel a hell of a lot less safe with guns on the street.

@Another2356 Where do you go that’s unsafe? I always feel safe. So where are you going and what are you doing?

Don't go and live in America, folks. It evidently turns your brain to mush.

Based on feedback it almost unanimously looks like the UK is not ready for the ‘right to bear arms’. That’s democracy at work.