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School absence rules are super powering the spread of flu

259 replies

Pavementworrier · 09/12/2025 19:17

And people will die unnecessarily as a result and it's really annoying

Why the hell can't there be a rule that kids with flu or suspected flu (at least during peak flu season) don't have absences counted??

OP posts:
BettysRoasties · 10/12/2025 11:40

My youngest school have had at least 6 teachers off over the last two weeks one of which has actually with the classic Mumsnet twinkly laugh says she was the one who brang it into school and wiped her out couldn’t get out of bed for four days.

children and teachers walking around carrying sick bags 🤢

FloralHighNotes · 10/12/2025 11:41

soupyspoon · 10/12/2025 07:57

Its true you can be up and about with flu but then thats just like having a cold or sniffle which most people just work through, kids or adults. My OH was ill yesterday but today he's fine, he might have a flu virus, or he might not, what are people supposed to do, stay at home forever?

Flu is not like having a cold or little sniffle. It is a serious illness makes you feel like absolute shut for at least a week, but usually much longer. Most people have never had flu.

Rest assured that your OP did not have flu yesterday and he certainly does not need to stay home forever...

Winteriscoming80 · 10/12/2025 11:43

HereintheloveofChristIstand · 10/12/2025 09:25

that seems excessive!
Was the absence on a Friday or Monday? I know some schools are clamping down on pre Christmas holiday piss takers. But that is so annoying for you given you have an exemplary record and a good attitude towards attendance!

It was a Friday actually lol,school is 5 minutes away,I have no reason not to take him in,I think a lot of children are catching more bugs/illnesses due to the long terms before Christmas.

Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 11:45

soupyspoon · 10/12/2025 08:18

Yet again education needed about what flu is. Its a virus, and like any virus, some people will be asymptomatic and some will be hit very badly and then all variations inbetween

That sniffle that you had last week, could have been flu.

Then you wouldn’t know they had flu?
Are we suggesting keeping kids off for a sniffle?! The education system would collapse.

Tiswa · 10/12/2025 11:55

@FloralHighNotes nope not true. We have all just had it - DS had 8 days off and I was pretty close still battling the exhaustion. My parents (vaccinated) mum was worse than Dad. DH had one day off DD two days

that is why nothing helps the spread Covid showed that!

@Winteriscoming80 why did the school do that for 1 day

FloralHighNotes · 10/12/2025 12:02

Tiswa · 10/12/2025 11:55

@FloralHighNotes nope not true. We have all just had it - DS had 8 days off and I was pretty close still battling the exhaustion. My parents (vaccinated) mum was worse than Dad. DH had one day off DD two days

that is why nothing helps the spread Covid showed that!

@Winteriscoming80 why did the school do that for 1 day

Your husband and daughter didn't have flu.

Tiswa · 10/12/2025 12:07

FloralHighNotes · 10/12/2025 12:02

Your husband and daughter didn't have flu.

The test kits we ordered and used said otherwise

also DD is still suffering her voice hasn’t come back (can’t sing) throat hurts and coughs she just managed to make it back to sixth form

@FloralHighNotes flu can also be asymptomatic it is part of how it manages to spread and travel

I don’t get why you are so adamant it has to only be a serious illness?

CandiedPrincess · 10/12/2025 12:18

Rocknrollstar · 10/12/2025 11:01

If you are walking around you don’t have flu. Too many people say they have flu when they have another virus.

Wrong.

HelloPuppyPie · 10/12/2025 12:24

Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 08:05

No kid is going to school with real flu. They wouldn’t be able to get out of bed.

A cold (even a heavy one) is nothing like flu.

Not true.

You can be asymptomatic with flu or have very minimal symptoms

pssssst · 10/12/2025 12:25

Pavementworrier · 10/12/2025 10:54

I think punishing children for being sick is insane and arguably illegal in terms of the equality act. But I'm sure you're onto something... Somewhere

Punishing? Who is punishing children or being sick?

I am SO sick of these idiotic rage baits. Super classless.

Nevermind17 · 10/12/2025 12:25

How many times? 🤦🏻‍♀️ It is possible to have MILD flu.

School absence rules are super powering the spread of flu
Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 12:26

HelloPuppyPie · 10/12/2025 12:24

Not true.

You can be asymptomatic with flu or have very minimal symptoms

So we should just keep kids off school ‘just in case’ they have it, even if they feel perfectly well?

pssssst · 10/12/2025 12:27

Is OP a lil school child hacking into mommy's mn account posting this puerile nonsense while off school with sniffles?

CloudPop · 10/12/2025 12:32

Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 12:26

So we should just keep kids off school ‘just in case’ they have it, even if they feel perfectly well?

This. Shall we just go the whole hog and go into lockdown ?

EatingHealthy · 10/12/2025 12:45

Counted for what? The schools I know would count being absent due to flu as an authorised absence so it won't count adversely for anything. What schools punish children for being off with flu?

Yes, it will contribute to their attendance percentage, but a child could have a whole two weeks off due to flu and still be at 95% attendance. It would only bring their attendance to a concerning level if they're having time off for other reasons too - which should be looked into. Children obviously shouldn't be taking time off for holidays and even more so if they've missed two weeks off schooling due to illness - their parents should realise they will need all the time possible in school then to make up for what they missed.

If they're missing more school due to further illness then, whilst if it's genuine it shouldn't result in any kind of adverse consequences, it should be looked into because it could be an indicator of neglect etc.

ShesTheAlbatross · 10/12/2025 12:47

Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 12:26

So we should just keep kids off school ‘just in case’ they have it, even if they feel perfectly well?

She didn’t say that. Or anything close to that. It’s just a fact that flu can be mild. And it’s annoying when people continue to (incorrectly) insist that if you are capable of even weakly lifting your head off the pillow there is no way you could have “proper” flu.

Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 12:50

ShesTheAlbatross · 10/12/2025 12:47

She didn’t say that. Or anything close to that. It’s just a fact that flu can be mild. And it’s annoying when people continue to (incorrectly) insist that if you are capable of even weakly lifting your head off the pillow there is no way you could have “proper” flu.

Accepting what you say about flu coming in all different guises, I have reverted to the thrust of the thread. If you don’t know someone has flu, it’s hard to expect them to segregate to avoid spreading it. And if someone feels fine, you can’t know they have flu. Unlike COVID, there’s no ‘test’.

Tiswa · 10/12/2025 12:52

@EatingHealthy maybe it would by the end but DS has had a 2 day illness last half term and 8 days with this and his attendance is at 83% so yes at a concerning amount and one you get a letter

ShesTheAlbatross · 10/12/2025 12:52

Swiftie1878 · 10/12/2025 12:50

Accepting what you say about flu coming in all different guises, I have reverted to the thrust of the thread. If you don’t know someone has flu, it’s hard to expect them to segregate to avoid spreading it. And if someone feels fine, you can’t know they have flu. Unlike COVID, there’s no ‘test’.

Well there is a test. You can buy it at boots.

But I’d agree that there’s no need to keep mildly ill children off school. I think only the OP has suggested it really.

DonicaLewinsky · 10/12/2025 12:53

ShesTheAlbatross · 10/12/2025 12:47

She didn’t say that. Or anything close to that. It’s just a fact that flu can be mild. And it’s annoying when people continue to (incorrectly) insist that if you are capable of even weakly lifting your head off the pillow there is no way you could have “proper” flu.

Exactly. It's not a binary choice between lockdown and making obviously idiotic claims about flu.

oustedbymymate · 10/12/2025 12:55

I just didn’t send me kid when he had it. He was poorly

SleepingStandingUp · 10/12/2025 12:55

AngelsWithSilverWings · 10/12/2025 10:28

My daughter's attendance is already too low this year purely due to hospital appts in London ( we live in Essex) and then she had a couple of days in hospital and a day to recover after an operation. Now she has to have a day off every two weeks for the next few months for a drug infusion.

She has never actually had a day off of college due to being unwell.

Today she has a heavy cold and is feeling rotten but has gone in because she is worried about her attendance.

Luckily college are a lot more relaxed about it all than her school were - they threatened us with a referral to social services after she had 16 hospital appts in three months. I pointed out to the school that I'd have had social services knocking on my door if I'd sent her to school instead of taking her to her hospital appts!

that's awful. as if it isn't hard enough having a chronically ill child. I hope she's on the mend soon

ShesTheAlbatross · 10/12/2025 12:56

Tiswa · 10/12/2025 12:52

@EatingHealthy maybe it would by the end but DS has had a 2 day illness last half term and 8 days with this and his attendance is at 83% so yes at a concerning amount and one you get a letter

A letter you can chuck in the bin though. I wouldn’t keep my child off unless she was too ill to go in, and if that authorised absence brought her attendance down, I really wouldn’t care. Especially if it was a letter generated by a system that is unable to take into account how far through the term you are - 2 days off in week 1 puts you immediately at 60%, but it’s clearly not remotely a problem.
60% attendance by the end of the year would be a problem, but it would mainly be one I’d be taking to the GP to find out why my child was ill so often (unless there was a medical cause that I knew about already).

Newmeagain · 10/12/2025 12:56

It is quite shocking how many people have absolutely no understanding of the science behind disease, no understanding how viruses work, etc and make very sweeping statements based on complete ignorance.

The influenza virus is not like the Ebola virus. It doesn’t wipe out everyone infected - that is why it spreads so effectively. Many people will feel terrible but will still go to work, school etc. Similar to Covid. Some people get very ill.

SleepingStandingUp · 10/12/2025 12:57

Pavementworrier · 10/12/2025 10:54

Where I come from it's very normal to take kids out of school a bit early or during term for holidays because holidays are education too. Nothing falls over.

so if it's normal to have days of whenever you fancy, why do you think parents are forced to send in ill kids?

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