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Thread 20 : To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 04/12/2025 01:24

The Observer's original exposé: The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

First thread: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film? | Mumsnet

Links to threads 2-16, the other 20 Observer articles and videos to date, Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement, our timeline and sources can all be accessed in the OP and first few posts of Thread 17: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5403285-thread-17-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

Thread 18: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5422393-thread-18-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

Thread 19: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5437058-thread-19-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

New posters joining us in the genuine spirit of our civil discourse are welcome. It would be helpful to get the background from at least some of the Observer exposé items before posting.
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Remember, even Hollywood rabbits attract the odd flea. Please do not engage with drive-by scolders and ploppers who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. Over five months we have done amazingly well together for 19 very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in our usual reasonable and respectful fashion is very welcome.

Keep to the path. No saltiness. May the fudge and cider be with you.

Up and coming:

  • Salt Path: A Very British Scandal, Monday 15th December 9pm Sky Documentaries and NOW
  • Sunday Papers Live, The Real Salt Path with Chloe Hadjimatheou, Sunday 7th December (see image below for tickets and further details)
  • Observer Newsroom: The Real Salt Path Story, Thursday 8th January 2026 6.30-7.30pm. More information and to book via this link observer.co.uk/our-events/the-real-salt-path-story
Thread 20 : To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
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Uricon2 · 14/12/2025 17:21

LiftAndLetLift · 14/12/2025 17:20

Poor Bob.

He'd rather defend the un-defendable than accept he's been hoodwinked by a manipulative grifter and look the fool.

I do think it all got a lot worse today though. Some people will back off.

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:22

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:20

Is Bob Cook identifiable as someone real? Love the spelling of knawing!!!!

This will be my yardstick for gauging people in the future. Mention TSP scandal and see what they say. Clued up folk get a pass.

Yes!

Thelandsthatmustnotbementioned · 14/12/2025 17:22

crossedlines · 14/12/2025 16:23

Do we have any psychotherapists/ psychologists on here who have some insights into why SW started this kind of behaviour? Not that any reasons would excuse it, but I just wonder what possesses someone to be so flagrantly dishonest and heartless.

from a totally amateur perspective, I get the feeling SW was full of insecurities and had a massive chip on her shoulder from an early age…. Jealousy of more successful family members? Of better looking girls? Better educated women? Where does the huge sense of entitlement come from? Why didn’t she do what any normal person would do if they hit a bad patch and get a full time job? Or downsize to a cheaper house?

It’s like she never considered this things, doing an honest days work was beneath them, they were too special… It seems to me that insecurities coupled with a massive sense of entitlement underlie a lot of SW’s issues

Psychologist here (though not a forensic one, which might be more helpful) but finding myself loathe to give an opinion without knowing more facts.

That said, listening to TWS there was quite a lot about her childhood and family which, if true, could be helpful in understanding all this.

I wonder which of her early emotional needs were met and which unmet? That would be my starting point.

Where did the sense of insecurity - and need for “more” (Attention? Validation? Approval? Sense of importance?) start?

What did her first relationships teach her about honesty, integrity and morality? About getting along with others and playing by the rules?

Early relationships are crucial but the problem is knowing what to believe from the information she’s given.

Was she really silenced, neglected and sometimes ridiculed by her parents in the way she describes, for example?

And as others have said, is the pathological lying and stealing HER issue or tied up with the relationship with TimMoth?

There’s so much we now know but still so much we don’t know.

Sorry - I was one of the original psychology correspondents but I feel I’ve failed in my work! No fudge for me….Maybe one of the others will give a better answer 😊

LiftAndLetLift · 14/12/2025 17:23

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:21

And still looks foolish as a consequence.

It does make me chuckle when someone says it's the 'last word they'll have' ... and then can't help themselves but say more.

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:23

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:17

Exactly. Like the chap below!

Could ‘Bob’ be one of ‘them’? - throw in a the odd spelling & grammatical error & ‘everyman’ will get behind you.

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:25

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:23

Could ‘Bob’ be one of ‘them’? - throw in a the odd spelling & grammatical error & ‘everyman’ will get behind you.

I don't think so. He is fairly easily identifiable from his FB feed. I just think he is deluded.

Peladon · 14/12/2025 17:25

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:17

Exactly. Like the chap below!

I skimmed this to see if it contained the word "headland".

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:26

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:25

I don't think so. He is fairly easily identifiable from his FB feed. I just think he is deluded.

Thanks. Why is it the blind supporters, the bigots & racists can never spell? :)

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:27

LiftAndLetLift · 14/12/2025 17:23

It does make me chuckle when someone says it's the 'last word they'll have' ... and then can't help themselves but say more.

It's like when people flounce out of threads then come back ten minutes later.

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:28

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:17

Exactly. Like the chap below!

Where can I find these comments?

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:31

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:26

Thanks. Why is it the blind supporters, the bigots & racists can never spell? :)

But he isn't a bigot or a racist, the opposite in fact. Though it's ironic he calls out blind supporters of Farridge and Laxley Lennon.

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:33

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:31

But he isn't a bigot or a racist, the opposite in fact. Though it's ironic he calls out blind supporters of Farridge and Laxley Lennon.

Lol - I mean in general terms…

AlwaysRightISwear · 14/12/2025 17:33

One thing we still don't know, unless I've missed it, is just why they moved to Wales. Were they running away from more legal troubles?

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:36

AlwaysRightISwear · 14/12/2025 17:33

One thing we still don't know, unless I've missed it, is just why they moved to Wales. Were they running away from more legal troubles?

There was an incident when one of their children was nearly run over on a road outside their house. Property prices were lower on the Llyn Peninsula compared to where they were living, so they were able to move up the housing ladder.

Uricon2 · 14/12/2025 17:37

Salray peddled a dream of hope and love and overcoming adversity. I don't blame people for wanting to cling to it as a bit of a bright light in a sorry world, but hopefully most will see that this is now not smoke without fire but massive great, carefully built pyres of reality and accept the truth.

Peladon · 14/12/2025 17:39

AlwaysRightISwear · 14/12/2025 17:33

One thing we still don't know, unless I've missed it, is just why they moved to Wales. Were they running away from more legal troubles?

I think that the Walkets already explained that? A child walked out of the garden, and therefore they packed up, sold their house and moved to a nee location within a fortnight (or something like that)? Sounds plausible to me.

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:39

Uricon2 · 14/12/2025 17:37

Salray peddled a dream of hope and love and overcoming adversity. I don't blame people for wanting to cling to it as a bit of a bright light in a sorry world, but hopefully most will see that this is now not smoke without fire but massive great, carefully built pyres of reality and accept the truth.

As a work of fiction it has its merits. As an unflinchingly honest memoir it has no redeeming features.

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:40

NaughtyNoodler · 14/12/2025 17:36

There was an incident when one of their children was nearly run over on a road outside their house. Property prices were lower on the Llyn Peninsula compared to where they were living, so they were able to move up the housing ladder.

Edited

That's what Tim said prompted the move for sure, but who knows.

AlwaysRightISwear · 14/12/2025 17:44

I wouldn't believe them if they said it was raining without checking.

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:46

Uricon2 · 14/12/2025 17:37

Salray peddled a dream of hope and love and overcoming adversity. I don't blame people for wanting to cling to it as a bit of a bright light in a sorry world, but hopefully most will see that this is now not smoke without fire but massive great, carefully built pyres of reality and accept the truth.

Playing devil’s advocate for a moment, is it possible the letters that have come to light are forged & story of further thievery phoney?

Uricon2 · 14/12/2025 17:47

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:40

That's what Tim said prompted the move for sure, but who knows.

That's also something that never made sense to me. Having lived in in rural Wales, a small lone child is potentially at more danger in that countryside , from nature, than escaping from the house and being grabbed by one of the numerous passers by, because clearly at risk.

The ways of Raymoth are strange and I imagine there is also more to this than meets the eye, perhaps only trying to pile on the drama, though.

FurryHappyKittens · 14/12/2025 17:48

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:46

Playing devil’s advocate for a moment, is it possible the letters that have come to light are forged & story of further thievery phoney?

There's the emails trail.

Also she said she didn't write the typed confession but hasn't denied the rest.

LetsBeSensible · 14/12/2025 17:48

Groundsel · 14/12/2025 16:15

A friend of mine got a producer credit for a TV show based on her novel— in practice, what it appears to have meant is that the screenplay writer occasionally emailed her questions about characters etc when he was adapting it. She was only on set as a visitor a couple of times, and certainly didn’t have anything to do with actually producing the film. I’m assuming that SW getting a producer credit covered stuff like meeting the actors and being available to advise the production on stuff they’d supposedly lived through.

I believe she’s getting a cut of the box office profits. Maybe not a huge one, but a cut.

Uricon2 · 14/12/2025 17:50

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 17:46

Playing devil’s advocate for a moment, is it possible the letters that have come to light are forged & story of further thievery phoney?

Why would her/his family do this? They aren't going to get any real benefit and risk having the behinds sued off them if they were faking it. Also, Ros Hemmings. It's part of a pattern of behaviour.

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