To think it is not at all sad that the Women's Institute is now only for actual women?

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“Incredibly sadly, we will have to restrict our membership on the basis of biological sex from April next year,” Green said. “But the message we really want to get across is that it remains our firm belief that transgender women are women, and that doesn’t change.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/03/womens-institute-no-longer-accept-trans-women-members-april

Tellingly - they still think women can have a penis.

As I’ve said, I’m gender critical.

It would have been a waste of time and money… if the law had been respected by men in the first place. But it wasn’t. Men were entering lots of women’s single sex spaces and saying they were allowed to be there, and many public bodies were allowing this. Thats why FWS was utterly necessary. It gave women their rights bsck. How can a woman not see that?

People meaning men?

Deary me all the tragic bingos are out today

British women from the left were all over this waaay before trump was even aware

You're about as gender critical as someone who eats steak is a vegan.

It's not sad. HTH.

bollocks he did.

We have been talking about this stuff for over a decade.

Of course you are

How was it a waste of time and money?

The girls who want to go on overnight activities will be safer [and their parents will rest easier whilst they are away] knowing that boys won't be housed in the same accommodation as the girls, or using the girls shower rooms and toilets.

The fact that the rabidly pro-trans anti-female activists and their legal teams have had to issue these new ways forward, after the Supreme Court decision, makes it well worth the time and money. Because if they cannot find the loophole then other organisations won't be able to find one either. And you can bet they've all been at that since April.

These two organisations who were set up by women for women and girls, whose fundamental priorities were so easily and quickly undermined by men just because they say 'I'm a lady/girl', should hang their heads in shame. But they can't even say 'sorry' to the women and girls they have undermined but have to say 'so so sorry' to the men who infiltrated them speaks volumes.

you're critical alright.

Stop it. You are making some very strange statements if you claim to be critical of the social sexist stereotype that is gender.

I'm done with replying to you.

The point isn't about it affecting my life in any way whatsoever. Some people are capable of supporting measures in society that are not about their own interests.

It certainly affects the lives of rape victims when they go for help and other vulnerable women in society to be away from men when they need to be.

It was only a waste of time and money in as much as the law, exactly as enacted in 2010, had to be spelled out to counteract the false interpretations spread by the organisations like Stonewall.

The law hasn't changed.

'If they want to include males then call it something other than the women’s institute., but if they want to keep it as the women’s institute then why are there males there?' - The honest answer is because there are plenty of women (and men) in the UK who want to affirm transwomen as women and transmen as men, especially in purely social spaces. They don't want an organisation that insists on designating transwomen as male; they want one that embraces them as women.

And I think that's OK, honestly. Same as it's fine to invite a transwoman to your hen night or to a women's book club. Why shouldn't you, if that's what you believe?

It's not my personal philosophy, but then I'm not a Christian, and nevertheless I don't campaign against churches.

They’re helping me feel safe in single sex spaces.

JKR funds a charity for institutionalised children and a single sex rape crisis service for women who can't tolerate a mixed sex one and would be left with no service without it.

I'm sure you didn't mean to suggest that you don't think women and children are people, but when you think their rights are optional, or dedicating services towards their specific needs isn't helping people, then that is what you're saying.

I do feel immense sympathy or pity for men like those you describe. I really do. But they don't represent trans women.

Trans women, as we've been told very clearly by their advocates, as we've seen in countless examples, are quite literally any man who says he is one, for any reason. Including deliberate and calculated reasons such as to access women for sexual assault and rape. As it stands, Isla Bryson is just as much a trans woman as those mild mannered elderly ones who do no more than pop on a frock and a bit of lipstick to do their shopping.

But the trans movement made that happen, and it is their problem to solve.

Why is it that some people think women should only be allowed to care about things that have directly impacted them in the past few weeks?

It's infantilising.

Do you care about Palestine? How has the situation there directly impacted you?

Many years ago, the WI my mother attended struggled to attract new members to their daytime meetings. Room hire and fees to central WI weren't really covering costs. The younger women they needed to attract had school/caring/work responsibilities, which ruled out a day-time hobby and most of their existing members were elderly and didn't fancy driving at night and . They broke away from the NFWI and booked a smaller venue (a lounge in local sheltered housing) and the 'club' continued for quite a few years.

I suspect the octagenarian and friends could organise something similar.

I cannot understand how women with views such as the quote in the OP are in leadership roles in women's organisations.

I feel incredibly sad for the 80-year-old woman who had found a safe space among a lovely community. I hope the community stands by her and continues to involve her in other ways.

You can surely invite him round your house if you feel so sorry for him.

This is a fad which is now on the wane. There is a fair amount of anecdotal evidence that many young people are fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense and are rejecting it. Very few of those who identify as pansexual, demiboy, genderfluid etc etc in their early teens are still doing so in their late teens. Puberty generally sorts out most gender confusion, as has been known for many decades. Anyone sees gender ideology as a vote winner with the youth will (I hope) be in for a nasty shock.

Man, him, him.

Women are welcome. If you’re actually talking about a man then he’s not a woman. I’m sure he can find another club to join. Why don’t you set one up?

I dare say anyone making such a statement was thoroughly vetted before being given the job, to make sure they possessed the ‘correct’ opinions.

You have to hand it to Stonewall - their brainwashing campaign was very effective. From all I’ve ever read or heard, it was conceived as a fundraiser - their income had dropped a lot, since hardly anybody was bothered about their original raison d’etre - i.e. gays - any more.