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To be tempted to pull a sickie?

501 replies

ofthelandandsea · 02/12/2025 06:28

And yes it’s morally reprehensible but …

Work in a school, so can’t take annual leave or anything like that, and it’s my DDs first school play Friday.

My school won’t let you have time off for anything like that; they just won’t, it’s just no, no, no. It’s similar if a teacher needs to leave the site during the day, you just can’t get out.

I really am tempted to say sod it and say I’m unwell.

OP posts:
Pessismistic · 04/12/2025 00:01

ofthelandandsea · 03/12/2025 13:27

Well, this is one of the reasons I’m not planning on working full time, even when DD2 starts school. Of course, I’ll sometimes have to miss something, but I do think that first nativity is quite special to be honest.

Hey op just go it’s ironic that primary schools have these activities but teachers aren’t allowed time to go but the schools expect other working parents to get time off for them.

TheShyMumX · 04/12/2025 02:59

This is the exact reason I stopped having a student facing role and went in to part time admin at a different school! The guilt I was made to feel for things like this was ridiculous, and I wasn’t a teacher. I am fairly certain you can’t be made to stay on the premises for PPA but that may have changed now?
I will admit on a couple of occasions getting a family member to call in stating a family emergency sounding panicked at a pre agreed time and rushing off! On both occasions I was back in the next day saying how much of a drama queen my sister is and how I can’t believe I rushed there for a situation that really wasn’t that major, most people nodded their heads saying they had similar dramatic family members and sympathised with me
failing that, if you are a brave person, fill out an absence request form and when handing it to your line manager tell them it’s not an absence request it’s an absence notification and that you will not be on the premises at the time stated as you have an appointment that you WILL be attending and that you will complete your hours PPA at home after your event

Catbakingbiscuits · 04/12/2025 05:36

This is why teaching is such a sad profession. No flexibility and you are treated like a child.
People on here getting mad that OP has school holidays off. If you’re that jealous, retrain. You’ll soon realise what a hellish job it is.

Ivy888 · 04/12/2025 06:02

ofthelandandsea · 02/12/2025 06:39

I’m trying to think of how it could bite me and I can’t.

DD attends a very small primary school in a rural setting. I teach in a huge sprawling secondary in an urban setting, although it only takes me about twenty minutes to drive there it is a good eight miles away. There aren’t any connections between the schools.

It is silly because if it was OKd I’d only be missing the last period of the day which is actually my PPA anyway so no implications for cover.

Have you asked for the time off? It sounds like you can argue how it won’t effect anyone.

Also, ask the primary school if they could consider an evening show next year. And filming it this year.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 04/12/2025 06:17

PersephoneParlormaid · 02/12/2025 06:34

I can’t believe that the school aren’t putting it on at night too, as so many parents work. My kids school offered you a ticket to watch, and you chose a night or day slot.

Because schools just can’t get kids back to these things in the evening … parents can’t be bothered to bring them ( or let them stay , if it’s just after school day ends).

Absolutely true “story”.

landlordhell · 04/12/2025 06:57

jasminocereusbritannicus · 04/12/2025 06:17

Because schools just can’t get kids back to these things in the evening … parents can’t be bothered to bring them ( or let them stay , if it’s just after school day ends).

Absolutely true “story”.

We do it every year. We stress to parents how important it is. Only occasionally one child doesn’t return.

PerfectlyWhelmed · 04/12/2025 07:10

More chance of getting caught now that this post has been shared on Facebook, unfortunately. Good luck.

PerfectlyWhelmed · 04/12/2025 07:20

caramac04 · 02/12/2025 13:38

Well if everyone took a ‘special’ day off what would happen?
You have a term time contract which many would love to have. The downside is you can’t choose your annual leave. But you know that.
Pulling a sickie is dishonest. Why not ask if you can do ppa at home and just juggle your time?

They'd have a happier work staff and less turnover of teachers.

She's not asking for a whole day off. She's asking to do a special thing during her planning time. Many other schools would let you leave for something important to you like that.

Shocking that you can't leave for a medical appointment either.

Mumsntfan1 · 04/12/2025 07:22

Bluepiano · 03/12/2025 19:17

The holidays are great however, there is absolutely no flexibility at all. Need to book a doctors appointment? No. Want to watch your child’s play/go to sports day/graduation? No. Attend a wedding/funeral? No. Boilers broken in the middle of winter, need to get it fixed? No.
School staff are also not paid for all of those 13 weeks either

Plenty of people have limited flexibility and only five weeks off.

SmalltownCEO · 04/12/2025 07:30

PerfectlyWhelmed · 04/12/2025 07:10

More chance of getting caught now that this post has been shared on Facebook, unfortunately. Good luck.

Nah. Op is one is one of thousands who will be weighing this decision up.

Personally I would.
It’s much easier in many schools to go off sick be in mental health or physical health ( especially this time of year). What are they going to do anyway. They have to prove you were fit enough for work and the most will be a disciplinary which potentially is dicey if you go off on mental health grounds.

PearAndGingerCake · 04/12/2025 08:16

Go and have a lovely time! People are forgetting the bigger picture. Society expects women to work like they don’t have kids and have kids like they don’t work. If you need to break a few eggs to make an omelette then no shame from me. I’ve worked in schools, know what it’s like and that’s why I no longer do! Money is the bottom line and I don’t think this one will break their bank. Support the workers!

Genevieve29 · 04/12/2025 09:13

Mumsntfan1 · 02/12/2025 06:43

It's morally wrong to 'only' be allowed 13 weeks a year off work!

Are you one of those green-eyed people who believe that teachers only work school hours? You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the amount of time off the OP gets. If you think teaching is so great, try it! Why do you think teachers are leaving in droves despite "all" the time off you think they have?

Mumsntfan1 · 04/12/2025 09:34

Genevieve29 · 04/12/2025 09:13

Are you one of those green-eyed people who believe that teachers only work school hours? You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the amount of time off the OP gets. If you think teaching is so great, try it! Why do you think teachers are leaving in droves despite "all" the time off you think they have?

I think teaching has advantages and disadvantages like all jobs. Being able to be off during all school holidays is a massive advantage for parents. Not having flexible AL is a disadvantage. The OP needs to decide what's most important.

Huuny · 04/12/2025 09:54

I hope you are off sick today@ofthelandandsea. I think you're right to go and watch your little girl, these things are so important.

BringBackCatsEyes · 04/12/2025 09:57

Mumsntfan1 · 04/12/2025 07:22

Plenty of people have limited flexibility and only five weeks off.

Do schools really not allow time off for funerals?
You would be declined time to go to your own Mother's funeral?

BringBackCatsEyes · 04/12/2025 09:59

jasminocereusbritannicus · 04/12/2025 06:17

Because schools just can’t get kids back to these things in the evening … parents can’t be bothered to bring them ( or let them stay , if it’s just after school day ends).

Absolutely true “story”.

Is this a recent thing? In all my years as both a child and having 2 go through Primary, there have always been evening performances and it's never been a problem having the children attend.

BringBackCatsEyes · 04/12/2025 10:00

Pessismistic · 04/12/2025 00:01

Hey op just go it’s ironic that primary schools have these activities but teachers aren’t allowed time to go but the schools expect other working parents to get time off for them.

I was always baffled at that. Most teachers are working parents so are fully aware of the juggle.

Ihatetomatoes · 04/12/2025 10:01

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 02/12/2025 06:31

If you can afford to lose your job, then I guess you can afford to risk it.

You could be sacked.

Do they not do evening performances

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/12/2025 10:06

Who is taking DD? Give a ‘Good luck!’ Card and make a big deal the night before. Make sure her / grandparents take load of photos / film some bits and go through it all when you get home. I wouldn’t pull a sickie as a teacher unless I was really unwell since so many people rely on you.

capybaraforlife · 04/12/2025 10:12

PersephoneParlormaid · 02/12/2025 06:34

I can’t believe that the school aren’t putting it on at night too, as so many parents work. My kids school offered you a ticket to watch, and you chose a night or day slot.

my school was day time only and always has been.

Ruthdpl · 04/12/2025 10:26

Migraine or cystitis can attack at any time, right? 😉

Bluepiano · 04/12/2025 12:47

Mumsntfan1 · 04/12/2025 07:22

Plenty of people have limited flexibility and only five weeks off.

Limited flexibility is not NO flexibility, which is what school staff have.

Mumsntfan1 · 04/12/2025 13:16

Bluepiano · 04/12/2025 12:47

Limited flexibility is not NO flexibility, which is what school staff have.

Thirteen weeks with no flexibility or five weeks with a degree of flexibility depending on the job. The OP needs to decide what she wants. Or she could look for a job with 13 weeks in the school holidays plus extra days off for anything she sees as important.

Summertimesadnessishere · 04/12/2025 13:39

ofthelandandsea · 02/12/2025 06:32

I hate sounding antagonistic here but why would I lose my job for one day off sick?

After all, even if I was really unwell I wouldn’t be under house arrest.

It’s not the day off sick - it’s lying about the day off sick. Your integrity would be called into question. If you were in my team I’d let you have the time out up front and sort cover. But I’m private sector. But if you lied then I’d probably be having a word with HR it depends how valuable you are to the company. No idea how a school would handle it. Personally I wouldn’t lie in that situation. It’s frustrating I know but that’s what you signed up to. I’m sure there are other benefits like holidays off you get that private sector won’t. What do people do when they have to work abroad?

Headachequeen · 04/12/2025 17:40

My worry would be that this feels (and is) so special right now but then so will her first sports day and first other event ant school and it’s where do you draw a line because you will never want to let her down. None of us want to do that.

Life is all about compromise unfortunately and winning some to lose some. Teachers work bloody hard and are lucky enough to not have to worry about childcare over the holidays. So their kids have the joy of mum home all summer while people in other jobs maybe have the joy of mum attending plays and sports days but having to go to holiday club over the summer. There aren’t many people who can truly have it all and it’s just life.

I’m not saying don’t do this this time but maybe more have a think on whether the job is right for you if you feel this strongly about being there.

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