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Evri are lying about attempting to deliver my parcels

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IFeelLoveLikeTheRealStuff · 01/12/2025 17:48

I have four or five parcels that are with Evri at the moment. I keep getting notifications to say they’ve attempted to deliver them but it’s been unsuccessful and there’s now one thats being returned to the sender because they’ve “tried” three times. I can see on the doorbell camera that there’s nobody even coming down the path at the times they state they’ve attempted delivery. As a result I’m going to miss out on a load of Black Friday discounts and I’ll have to pay full price, plus I’ll be without dresses etc for my Christmas parties.

AIBU to raise complaints with each retailer and ask for discount codes to bring it down to the price I would’ve paid?

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kiwiblue · 01/12/2025 22:19

Friendlygingercat · 01/12/2025 22:14

Ive had this happen with almost every service including some of the major couriers. It means that the driver either couldnt find your address of ran out of time on that day. They are only allowed to drive for a set number of hours. You can ring the service and speak to an agent or simply rebook a redelivery on the website. Its better to ring if you can but wait times tend to be long.

You cannot ring Evri. I've tried so many times. The chatbot does not put you through to a real person and if I call customer services they just have an automated message that says I have a query open and hang up on me.

FinanceLPlates · 02/12/2025 02:56

I don’t know what is happening there exactly but can well imagine the complete insanity caused by “black Friday” for couriers. I mean, what could possibly go wrong if the entire country is ordering several parcels each all on the exact same day?

OvernightBloats · 02/12/2025 04:07

kiwiblue · 01/12/2025 22:18

Evri have really pissed me off as after 10 days of not delivering my parcel, and them admitting that (not doing anything to sort it, but saying they were sorry it hadn't been delivered), today they updated the tracking info to say it was delivered 10 days ago at 8pm. With no proof of delivery of course. Arseholes. The sender is now raising a claim against them and I should get a new item, hopefully, eventually.

Oddly, OP, royal mail are doing what you say- they say they've tried to deliver twice and claim my address is not accessible.

This happened to me recently as well.

Evri sent an email saying that delivery was delayed. I kept checking tracking information every day which said it was delayed on the 11th November. The next thing I got was an email from Vinted asking me to confirm everything was ok and to accept the parcel. I didn't have the parcel!

Evri eventually changed the tracking information to say that it had been delivered on the 11th. No, it had not! I had proof of the email to say it was delayed on that day.

Vinted have now cancelled the order and will reimburse the money. Evri are such lying scumbags.

catlover1460 · 02/12/2025 04:19

My 2 evri parcels took 4 days kept saying delayed, were delivered to mummy front door outside heard doorbell I was in the bath , both parcels were wet
Contents fine

Underthemagnificentbeechtree · 02/12/2025 04:40

I had one each like this yesterday with Evri & Royal Mail. The Royal Mail message came through after I’d just spent 10 minutes faffing on the doorstep with the Christmas wreath, so if they’d even approached the house I’d have seen them! Even the rest of the evening we were sitting in the front room.

It’s definitely a case that because they’ve been given this metric of attempted delivery, they essentially have to lie if they’ve been overloaded. Everyone needs to feed this back to retailers and to their parcel delivery companies (even if you get the parcel the next day) as it will only change if they need to as a business decision because they lose sales.

The problem is that they are trying to do it for the smallest price per parcel and it’s probably a bit too cheap to allow for sensible rounds, especially at busy times like now.

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 05:09

Things are about to get a lot worse with this company. Huge amounts of the decent couriers have left this year because of our treatment.

I will explain possibly the biggest examples of what is pissing people off.

We have always been treated very badly, and for many years had no rights at all. We had to service our rounds with no break at all. 6 days per week with no holidays, or sick capacity, ie one single occasion of illness or vehicle breakdown loses you your job. They could get away with this by calling us self employed, but entirely treated us as their employees. Twice I went to work with a sick bucket on my passenger seat.

So approx 7 year ago, 194 couriers took them to tribunal and won. We were found not to be truly self employed, but were classified as limb b workers under instruction, and awarded basic rights. The company then 'announced' a new status for their remaining staff of 'self employed plus', which of course is a nonsense and means nothing really, but things did improve to a fairly large extent. We were awarded 28 days hols, protection from loss of work over sickness and emergencies, and (eventually due to an individual courier) pension. The couriers that weren't in the original tribunal had to take a pay cut of 11-13 percent to pay for this, but it was still definitely better.

A voluntary agreement was also struck with the GMB union to represent us. This has been a double edged sword, it has given individuals greater recourse, but over time it has become apparent that they have no power (or will?) to represent us collectively, and everything is being eroded.

Jump forward to earlier this year, when last years pay claim was finalised. We have only ONCE, in the whole 23 years I've worked here had a percentage increase, and this years we were back to a small lump sum. The company's initial offer was for a MINUS amount, but the union negotiated them UP to a zero increase if we agreed to new terms and conditions ie. if we don't agree to new terms, then we would be getting pay cuts. In a completely opaque ballot, the terms were agreed.

The specifics were such that I was promised there would be no cut to my standard rate, my packet rate, my postable rate, my hanging garment rate, or my heavy rate. THE VERY NEXT DAY, we got a communication saying that due to competitivity factors they were introducing a new product called a small packet. This was to be entirely new business. Of course it's not, everything that is under 45cm/35cm/16cm, and under 2.2kg is now classed as a small packet and paid at a lower rate. This is all the exact same stuff as before and covers a huge amount of what we have always delivered, so a truly enormous pay cut.

Not only that but they aren't even keeping to their own dimensions, well over 3 quarters of all parcel traffic is now classified as small packet regardless of dimensions. We can upgrade these parcels while on the road by weighing and measuring them all, but this is extremely time consuming, and they often don't accept the evidence anyway. Photographic evidence is not accepted. The amounts of money being lost are eye watering, I know of some people who have lost 6-7k this year through this.

The reasons I haven't left are complex, but having left just before the tribunal and failed to find green grass, I came back after things improved. This time I've decided to stay and try to fight for general regulation within the industry, I won't go into what this entails.

But I'm sure you can see why so many couriers have left. And because the pay rates are so poor in a lot of areas, it must be obvious that the replacements cannot be fully legit. I can only afford hire and reward insurance by working at least 50 hours a week, there is absolutely no way that all the people who come in to do a few shifts for xmas money are properly insured. And if no-one is checking that, what else aren't they checking??

Then there are the intolerable depot conditions. When there was an exposure of Hermes a couple of years ago, they stated that any loading outside in the elements was a temporary measure. I've been loading outside for 23 years. It doesn't overly bother me, but it does trash the parcels.

The delivery units (the little ones that serve local couriers), are usually tiny, and evri don't pay the people that run them the agreed amount. They send the lorries hours later than agreed and then rely on couriers to do the sorting of parcels for free. Most people don't get on the road before about 12 at this time of year, and I've heard of some as late as 3pm. Fitting in 50 hours of work after this point in daylight is....problematic.

I'll stop now, I've barely touched the sides, but if there aren't major problems soon I'll eat my hat.

OvernightBloats · 02/12/2025 05:20

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 05:09

Things are about to get a lot worse with this company. Huge amounts of the decent couriers have left this year because of our treatment.

I will explain possibly the biggest examples of what is pissing people off.

We have always been treated very badly, and for many years had no rights at all. We had to service our rounds with no break at all. 6 days per week with no holidays, or sick capacity, ie one single occasion of illness or vehicle breakdown loses you your job. They could get away with this by calling us self employed, but entirely treated us as their employees. Twice I went to work with a sick bucket on my passenger seat.

So approx 7 year ago, 194 couriers took them to tribunal and won. We were found not to be truly self employed, but were classified as limb b workers under instruction, and awarded basic rights. The company then 'announced' a new status for their remaining staff of 'self employed plus', which of course is a nonsense and means nothing really, but things did improve to a fairly large extent. We were awarded 28 days hols, protection from loss of work over sickness and emergencies, and (eventually due to an individual courier) pension. The couriers that weren't in the original tribunal had to take a pay cut of 11-13 percent to pay for this, but it was still definitely better.

A voluntary agreement was also struck with the GMB union to represent us. This has been a double edged sword, it has given individuals greater recourse, but over time it has become apparent that they have no power (or will?) to represent us collectively, and everything is being eroded.

Jump forward to earlier this year, when last years pay claim was finalised. We have only ONCE, in the whole 23 years I've worked here had a percentage increase, and this years we were back to a small lump sum. The company's initial offer was for a MINUS amount, but the union negotiated them UP to a zero increase if we agreed to new terms and conditions ie. if we don't agree to new terms, then we would be getting pay cuts. In a completely opaque ballot, the terms were agreed.

The specifics were such that I was promised there would be no cut to my standard rate, my packet rate, my postable rate, my hanging garment rate, or my heavy rate. THE VERY NEXT DAY, we got a communication saying that due to competitivity factors they were introducing a new product called a small packet. This was to be entirely new business. Of course it's not, everything that is under 45cm/35cm/16cm, and under 2.2kg is now classed as a small packet and paid at a lower rate. This is all the exact same stuff as before and covers a huge amount of what we have always delivered, so a truly enormous pay cut.

Not only that but they aren't even keeping to their own dimensions, well over 3 quarters of all parcel traffic is now classified as small packet regardless of dimensions. We can upgrade these parcels while on the road by weighing and measuring them all, but this is extremely time consuming, and they often don't accept the evidence anyway. Photographic evidence is not accepted. The amounts of money being lost are eye watering, I know of some people who have lost 6-7k this year through this.

The reasons I haven't left are complex, but having left just before the tribunal and failed to find green grass, I came back after things improved. This time I've decided to stay and try to fight for general regulation within the industry, I won't go into what this entails.

But I'm sure you can see why so many couriers have left. And because the pay rates are so poor in a lot of areas, it must be obvious that the replacements cannot be fully legit. I can only afford hire and reward insurance by working at least 50 hours a week, there is absolutely no way that all the people who come in to do a few shifts for xmas money are properly insured. And if no-one is checking that, what else aren't they checking??

Then there are the intolerable depot conditions. When there was an exposure of Hermes a couple of years ago, they stated that any loading outside in the elements was a temporary measure. I've been loading outside for 23 years. It doesn't overly bother me, but it does trash the parcels.

The delivery units (the little ones that serve local couriers), are usually tiny, and evri don't pay the people that run them the agreed amount. They send the lorries hours later than agreed and then rely on couriers to do the sorting of parcels for free. Most people don't get on the road before about 12 at this time of year, and I've heard of some as late as 3pm. Fitting in 50 hours of work after this point in daylight is....problematic.

I'll stop now, I've barely touched the sides, but if there aren't major problems soon I'll eat my hat.

That is shocking. Thanks for explaining the situation.

Evri really are treating their workers terribly. Puts things in a different light.

muddyford · 02/12/2025 05:34

My postcode, mainland England, isn't recognised by Evri's tracking. Royal Mail not much better in terms of delivery these days.

Underthemagnificentbeechtree · 02/12/2025 05:52

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 05:09

Things are about to get a lot worse with this company. Huge amounts of the decent couriers have left this year because of our treatment.

I will explain possibly the biggest examples of what is pissing people off.

We have always been treated very badly, and for many years had no rights at all. We had to service our rounds with no break at all. 6 days per week with no holidays, or sick capacity, ie one single occasion of illness or vehicle breakdown loses you your job. They could get away with this by calling us self employed, but entirely treated us as their employees. Twice I went to work with a sick bucket on my passenger seat.

So approx 7 year ago, 194 couriers took them to tribunal and won. We were found not to be truly self employed, but were classified as limb b workers under instruction, and awarded basic rights. The company then 'announced' a new status for their remaining staff of 'self employed plus', which of course is a nonsense and means nothing really, but things did improve to a fairly large extent. We were awarded 28 days hols, protection from loss of work over sickness and emergencies, and (eventually due to an individual courier) pension. The couriers that weren't in the original tribunal had to take a pay cut of 11-13 percent to pay for this, but it was still definitely better.

A voluntary agreement was also struck with the GMB union to represent us. This has been a double edged sword, it has given individuals greater recourse, but over time it has become apparent that they have no power (or will?) to represent us collectively, and everything is being eroded.

Jump forward to earlier this year, when last years pay claim was finalised. We have only ONCE, in the whole 23 years I've worked here had a percentage increase, and this years we were back to a small lump sum. The company's initial offer was for a MINUS amount, but the union negotiated them UP to a zero increase if we agreed to new terms and conditions ie. if we don't agree to new terms, then we would be getting pay cuts. In a completely opaque ballot, the terms were agreed.

The specifics were such that I was promised there would be no cut to my standard rate, my packet rate, my postable rate, my hanging garment rate, or my heavy rate. THE VERY NEXT DAY, we got a communication saying that due to competitivity factors they were introducing a new product called a small packet. This was to be entirely new business. Of course it's not, everything that is under 45cm/35cm/16cm, and under 2.2kg is now classed as a small packet and paid at a lower rate. This is all the exact same stuff as before and covers a huge amount of what we have always delivered, so a truly enormous pay cut.

Not only that but they aren't even keeping to their own dimensions, well over 3 quarters of all parcel traffic is now classified as small packet regardless of dimensions. We can upgrade these parcels while on the road by weighing and measuring them all, but this is extremely time consuming, and they often don't accept the evidence anyway. Photographic evidence is not accepted. The amounts of money being lost are eye watering, I know of some people who have lost 6-7k this year through this.

The reasons I haven't left are complex, but having left just before the tribunal and failed to find green grass, I came back after things improved. This time I've decided to stay and try to fight for general regulation within the industry, I won't go into what this entails.

But I'm sure you can see why so many couriers have left. And because the pay rates are so poor in a lot of areas, it must be obvious that the replacements cannot be fully legit. I can only afford hire and reward insurance by working at least 50 hours a week, there is absolutely no way that all the people who come in to do a few shifts for xmas money are properly insured. And if no-one is checking that, what else aren't they checking??

Then there are the intolerable depot conditions. When there was an exposure of Hermes a couple of years ago, they stated that any loading outside in the elements was a temporary measure. I've been loading outside for 23 years. It doesn't overly bother me, but it does trash the parcels.

The delivery units (the little ones that serve local couriers), are usually tiny, and evri don't pay the people that run them the agreed amount. They send the lorries hours later than agreed and then rely on couriers to do the sorting of parcels for free. Most people don't get on the road before about 12 at this time of year, and I've heard of some as late as 3pm. Fitting in 50 hours of work after this point in daylight is....problematic.

I'll stop now, I've barely touched the sides, but if there aren't major problems soon I'll eat my hat.

Thanks @SEmyarse That’s clarified what I’ve thought was happening. What can ordinary people do to support couriers? As someone mentioned up thread we don’t get to choose the carrier as the consumer.

If only some of you who are experienced in different parts of the industry could set up an ethical rival, but I guess it would be more expensive and so many people might opt for the cheaper service.

Shardlake63 · 02/12/2025 06:08

We used to have a great Evri delivery man. For the last couple of years our parcels all turned up on the days specified and within the delivery window time. Alas, he must have moved on to another job or route and his replacement is a complete waste of space.
Last week we were expecting a parcel. It was due to be delivered after dark - it's dark around 4.00pm where we live at the moment, so I left our living room curtains open and the light on so the delivery guy could see someone was in. My husband was also home and was watching TV.
Suddenly my husband jumped up and said he had seen someone coming down our path. I was at the door in less than 5 seconds as I was almost immediately behind it. Within that time the delivery guy said he had knocked, waited and no-one was in. He was virtually sprinting back down the street to his van - Usain Bolt would have had a job catching him! I called out to him but he ignored me.
Neither my husband nor I heard any knock at the door, in spite of me being almost directly behind it at the time.
Evriare an absolute disgrace, and the likes of DHL aren't much better. It really puts me off ordering stuff online.

curious79 · 02/12/2025 06:10

How ironic that this is the first active message as I have just been complaining about an Evri failure to deliver. I have complained to the retailer.

It’s worth trying what you suggest

martha79 · 02/12/2025 06:13

Having complained to the Evri chat bot, I woke up this morning to find a notification that mine had been delivered at 2:30am (dumped on my front doorstep which is not the designated safe place).

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 08:44

Underthemagnificentbeechtree · 02/12/2025 05:52

Thanks @SEmyarse That’s clarified what I’ve thought was happening. What can ordinary people do to support couriers? As someone mentioned up thread we don’t get to choose the carrier as the consumer.

If only some of you who are experienced in different parts of the industry could set up an ethical rival, but I guess it would be more expensive and so many people might opt for the cheaper service.

I don't know what ordinary people could do, but thanks for the support. We seriously need someone with power to enforce our worker rights, which have gone straight out of the window recently.

We allegedly have unionisation, but it counts for nothing because it's a voluntary agreement. Some union reps and contacts are hopping mad about all this - there's talk of strike action/work to rule, and then we find it's regional and no-one seems sure what legal protection they can offer, and everyone backs down. We need them to help us get it back in court, but they are very reticent to do so.

Sunday service is another good example of what's going on. Most of the year Sundays are serviced by a small number of people, usually entirely different to in the week. The numbers are low, so one person can take on 4-6 areas for a higher rate. I have my doubts that any of these people are insured but that's how it works.

But in the run up to xmas, it inevitably becomes crazy, so they declare 3 (some areas 4) Sundays as super Sundays. And the choice becomes, either work them yourself for £25 extra, or (if they don't find someone else to do it) catch them up during the week. In previous years we've been given the full week to catch up. This year people are being told that they have to be completely clear by the end of Monday. Of course anyone who does this as a full time job, can't possibly do that, so they're being forced to work 27 (or 34) days straight. It's not right at all.

At the beginning of the year Evri were pulled up for questioning by the business and trade committee chaired by Liam Byrne MP. I think this is still viewable on YouTube. They were laid into, and then within days the small packet thing happened, and apparently everyone is happy that the GMB are dealing with it.

Someone, somewhere, with power, needs to take this on. The decent couriers are being forced out of their jobs, and the enormous number of dodgy couriers are taking on the work by whatever means and 'somehow' making up the losses by the back door. It's completely undermining the entire industry. DPD had a bit of a wild cat strike recently, directly related to their rates being cut because they couldn't compete with Evri. Some of them have been sacked. The problems are big.

TroysMammy · 02/12/2025 09:11

I get mine delivered to work. There is someone there between 7.45am and 6.30pm but the dull sod says he/she tried to deliver at 8.30pm on Thursday 27 November when the item was meant to be delivered on 1st December!

If it's the same person who delivered my parcel last April he should know that a GP surgery isn't open at 8.30pm. That time I had notification and sat in my car waiting
to ambush for him.

i'm thinking of working for Evri because I'm sure I can do a better job.

OhCobblers · 02/12/2025 09:13

Evri sent a photo of my house saying they had delivered but they usually send a photo of the parcel in the porch. I raised a complaint via the App and miraculously the parcel was delivered the next day!!

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 09:18

TroysMammy · 02/12/2025 09:11

I get mine delivered to work. There is someone there between 7.45am and 6.30pm but the dull sod says he/she tried to deliver at 8.30pm on Thursday 27 November when the item was meant to be delivered on 1st December!

If it's the same person who delivered my parcel last April he should know that a GP surgery isn't open at 8.30pm. That time I had notification and sat in my car waiting
to ambush for him.

i'm thinking of working for Evri because I'm sure I can do a better job.

I'm sure you could, but I'm not sure you'd be inclined to once you realised what it entails and what you'd get paid.

And this is why they mostly can only get idiots and crooks. (There are a few decent ones left, but considering the situation, we could also be classified as idiots).

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2025 09:18

Amazon have now tried to pull a fast one on my undelivered parcel and send me a return form to return the undelivered parcel for a refund as well as saying the parcel we said we'd deliver yesterday (which is invite only) is out of stock so we can't send you it like we promised.

Your driver has certainly nicked a parcel and then you try and first phob me off with unkeepable promises which are obvious lies and then try and catch me out by saying I have to return one of the items I don't have to get a refund?!

I can take minor errors or mistakes - I'm generally really nice to drivers on principle - it's when you get the odd one who is a complete arsehole who can't be arsed to do their job or just flat out is a criminal, I get pissed off.

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2025 09:20

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 09:18

I'm sure you could, but I'm not sure you'd be inclined to once you realised what it entails and what you'd get paid.

And this is why they mostly can only get idiots and crooks. (There are a few decent ones left, but considering the situation, we could also be classified as idiots).

We have a driver who is lovely for one delivery firm (I actually think he is Evri). We know him by name, always leave a good review and he's really helpful.

It's worth making a point of good service from delivery drivers when you get it.

SEmyarse · 02/12/2025 09:35

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2025 09:20

We have a driver who is lovely for one delivery firm (I actually think he is Evri). We know him by name, always leave a good review and he's really helpful.

It's worth making a point of good service from delivery drivers when you get it.

Yep, there's some decent ones around. Ask him how he's treated, bet you'll find he has some tales to tell.

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2025 09:37

Now an hour into an Amazon customer service chat.

They just asked, "can I check which number neighbour you have asked if they have the parcel?"

After an hour of saying, there is no parcel. No one has the parcel. We have checked the bin, over the fence, round the side of the house, with the neighbours, done the street.

I am sure they are tasked with a war of attrition to get people to just quit with a complaint and not get their money back.

I just want a fucking replacement and a refund.

(Thankfully it was bought on credit card but I actually want the goods).

IFeelLoveLikeTheRealStuff · 02/12/2025 09:39

They’ve now said that some are being delivered between 11&12, some between 10:30&12:30. Let’s see

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Jeds55 · 02/12/2025 10:11

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 01/12/2025 17:57

It would be great if retailers told you which courier they are using then we could avoid evri.
They are a disgrace.
We ordered bikes and they lied and lied about attempting delivery. I was literally watching the door on camera when the message popped up that they tried to deliver.😂

This!! I would avoid Evri like the plague if I had the choice
And when they eventually do decide to do their job and deliver (rather than lie about missed attempts) they dont even knock on the door 😒

TroysMammy · 02/12/2025 10:19

My neighbour thought her parcel was stolen off her front doorstep so I checked my cctv for her. The DPD courier took the parcel to the front door (not her specified safe place) faffed about with her recycling bag trying to use that to "hide it", gave up, picked up her parcel and put it back in the van and drove off. She had a nightmare retrieving it because he had said it was delivered.

ConstantlyFuriosa · 02/12/2025 11:36

DPD are the worst. They said they tried to deliver a parcel yesterday (they didn’t) and instead of taking it away and trying to redeliver it today they dropped it off at a post office miles away for me to collect! Which will be extremely difficult for me when all they had to do was deliver the bloody thing. Never known this before.

IFeelLoveLikeTheRealStuff · 02/12/2025 11:38

Delivered! Finally

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