Resentment at 100k

[Arseholeneighbours]

Theres a lot of vitriol spilt towards people being “high earners” at 100k and over. As net contributors, and most likely having made sacrifices, stresses and difficult life decisions, there’s many judgements about life choices , expectations and living within one’s means. What is the motivation to push forward in a career and to try and be as successful as one can if there’s no personal gain? It’s all well and good saying those with the broadest shoulders should take on the most - but to what end?

It is. But working hard doesn’t equate to high earnings. Carers work hard. Labourers work hard.

It's interesting you say you're not motivated by money, but then go on to list all the things you need it for and spend it on.

Mindset has a lot to do with how big those bills are

For me, excessive taxation removes choices for loads of people. The choices politicians make are not necessarily the choice you would prioritise personally.

E.g. high earners may have developmentally delayed kids but this is not a priority for the NHS or education system because they are not dying. With less tax, high earners could afford better care for their own kids.

If you have a family, mortgage bills etc earning more money to pay for things is the main motivator. It think it’s incredibly naive of you to think that most people aren’t motivated by money.

I didn't say you didn't have any. Just wondering where the rest of it goes if it's not spent on 'fancy stuff'. Ok so it goes into savings and over paying mortgage. Things a lot of people don't have and never will. So you don't spend it on flashy stuff but it goes elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with having a safety net. But you need that money, or your son does, right? So I just didn't get where you were coming from. There is nothing wrong with wanting more money. If you had more you could pay your mortgage off quicker, or put more into savings.

You are misinformed a crucial point here. People not being solely motivated by money doesn’t mean they are reliant on others, or have ‘plenty’ in the way 6 figure earners see it. They are motivated to earn enough to be secure and comfortable. Beyond that they aren’t bothered.

She asked. Literally asked “where does your money go.”

I didn't say it did.

They do, agree. But they don't work from 6am until gone midnight every day which some people in other sectors do. Some people are never 'off'.

No it doesn’t but it does mean you know when you’re earning enough to pay the bills and money isn’t your motivation for developing your career further.

Exactly!!

To some extent. But then so does the hand you are dealt in life, your age, wider responsibilities. To not care about money, means you have enough of it. And that number will vary enormously.

The point is it's all very well saying you don't buy this or that, but she overpays on mortgage and has savings. A lot don't. That is a luxury!

There’s a difference between want and need.

We don’t need to overpay, and we don’t need to save for him - the state will pay for him otherwise.

We do those things because we can, and that is because we’re in a privileged position to do so.

That privilege doesn’t mean you have to have the aim of grabbing more money where you can, or mean that you don’t want to support others who don’t have it.

I did say the word privilege… twice. What are you arguing with at this point? 😂

No, the money earned does. The bills don’t require endlessly increasing salary. Lots of people (about 96%) pay all the bills on less than £100k

'Grabbing' more money.

I think it's working for it. You see it being grabby to work hard and have a good wage. So I think we will have to agree to disagree. I see nothing wrong with people trying to make life better for them and theirs.

Like you are making your son's life better.

Youre right

Im sick of the taboo around not being able to say high paying jobs come with sacrifice that warrants the salary.

My job is 95k a year, private sector, the stress is immense, the hours are long, i have sometimes cried and thought why am i putting myself through this, on the flipside there are a lot of times i love it, but it is hard.

I do it to build a nice life fir me and my family and now im being penalised for it, and im sorry, but my sacrifices are greater than joe bloggs sitting on a till all day, clocking on, clocking off, leaving work at the door abd getting an 8.5% increase and now more money to be able to keep that stressless job and claim more child benefit.

They just are.

That was to someone else.

Monthly take home on 60k is 3.5k if you also have a student loan. My childcare for 1 child would currently be 2.5k a month. Do you really think that’s the right point to say you have to pay the full amount?

Most UC is paid to people in work. You can relax. And the bulk of the benefits bill is pensions.

100% this. I’m a very high earner, well over £400k last year, and don’t resent a penny of tax I pay. I work very hard, count myself incredibly lucky to be in a job that rewards my hard work, and enjoy the lifestyle I can afford. Tax is my repayment to society for all the advantages it’s given me.

As in, you understood it was a privilege, they didn't seem to.
Before you come back at me with 'no, that was to me'

Trying to be clear.......

I just don’t see the point in having more and being angry about it, in honesty.

This idea that households with 100k are in any way disadvantaged is absolutely ludicrous, and I think they know it too.

Accept your privilege, pay the tax that needs paying on that to help other people not starve, and get on with it.

So it's "grabbing" when other people want to do it. But it's fine when you do it?
(Quoted wrong post, sorry)