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AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

553 replies

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:02

Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

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FarageAndAWay · 28/11/2025 17:39

Havnt read the full thread but I’ll go ahead and assume it’s full of Tory bashers.

Anyway, YANBU OP. Here’s my take …

The Labour government have so far been an absolute shambles, we’re the laughing stock of the world thanks to dippy Kier and his box ticking government.
As a result - Reform are surging ahead in the polls. I’ve always been a Tory voter but after the last shambolic government i couldn’t with a clear conscience vote them back in - I found myself flirting with Reform. Now - I agree with a lot of reform policies but hand on heart - I don’t trust them.

If you look at the polling trends from these past few months - Reform have led comfortably every single one however - the more incompetent Labour show themselves to be, the more conservatives have very slowly crept up behind them. After Kemi’s fantastic performance on Wednesday, conservatives leapt forward in the polls and now it current stands as Reform in the lead and conservatives in second place. I think a lot of Tory voters who went to reform are starting to come back thanks to Kemi

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 17:40

Newbutoldfather · 28/11/2025 17:30

Badenoch’s reply to the budget was brilliant oratory.

I just haven’t heard many ideas yet from the Tories since their slaughter at the election.

If they come up with some kind of intelligent and coherent policy, I will definitely back her.

There was some good ideas in Kemi's conference speech. Hopefully more to come when we get closer to the election. She is definitely focusing on the economy now which is good.

cloudtreecarpet · 28/11/2025 17:40

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 17:37

He muttered she won’t be to the question and Reeves probably thought it meant her.

He was being typical bullying self and it backfired.

There's a reason he’s the most disliked PM in polling, this thread is out of sync. I get the title will attract vitriol but really it’s Labour who are struggling.

Edited

Bullying?
You do know his background & what he brings to the job don't you?
You're just making things up now.

FarageAndAWay · 28/11/2025 17:42

Meant to add - I predict Conservatives will overtake reform or at least end up neck and neck. In the event of this happening I think there will be a coalition in order to stop the right vote being split.

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 17:43

FarageAndAWay · 28/11/2025 17:42

Meant to add - I predict Conservatives will overtake reform or at least end up neck and neck. In the event of this happening I think there will be a coalition in order to stop the right vote being split.

Agreed

Monty34 · 28/11/2025 17:43

It was quite a reply to Reeves and her budget. Memorable.
Reform are not the answer. Farage, I suspect would dread being elected.

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 17:44

Monty34 · 28/11/2025 17:43

It was quite a reply to Reeves and her budget. Memorable.
Reform are not the answer. Farage, I suspect would dread being elected.

Why isn’t she with Reform, she is no different.

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 17:45

cloudtreecarpet · 28/11/2025 17:40

Bullying?
You do know his background & what he brings to the job don't you?
You're just making things up now.

Edited

Yes bullying. The pp is correct.

cloudtreecarpet · 28/11/2025 17:50

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 17:45

Yes bullying. The pp is correct.

What bullying & where is your evidence?

HelloDandy · 28/11/2025 17:53

Hell no!
That said if there was to be an Election anytime soon I wouldn't have a scooby as to who I would vote for. They're all crap!

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 18:02

cloudtreecarpet · 28/11/2025 17:40

Bullying?
You do know his background & what he brings to the job don't you?
You're just making things up now.

Edited

Eh? His background, so what. He can still be a bullying male in PMQs.

Not many like him as you do.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/11/2025 18:02

Chocolatebunny61 · 27/11/2025 17:24

In my opinion Rishi Sunak was beginning to turn things around when he was PM only he wasn’t given long enough to undo all the crap that his predecessors inflicted on us (I’m talking Liz Truss, Bojo, Theresa May). I voted Tory in the last election but for some reason I dislike Kemi Badenoch and I have no idea why she was made leader as I don’t think she is PM material at all. That said Labour are toast, Nigel Farage hasn’t got a clue and is all talk and would be a massive disaster as PM, and the Lib Dem’s are nowhere to be seen. If there was an election tomorrow I honestly do not know who I’d vote for.

See that's what I don't understand.

He was beginning to turn things around and then he called the snap election. They would have sone so much better 6 months later.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/11/2025 18:05

FarageAndAWay · 28/11/2025 17:39

Havnt read the full thread but I’ll go ahead and assume it’s full of Tory bashers.

Anyway, YANBU OP. Here’s my take …

The Labour government have so far been an absolute shambles, we’re the laughing stock of the world thanks to dippy Kier and his box ticking government.
As a result - Reform are surging ahead in the polls. I’ve always been a Tory voter but after the last shambolic government i couldn’t with a clear conscience vote them back in - I found myself flirting with Reform. Now - I agree with a lot of reform policies but hand on heart - I don’t trust them.

If you look at the polling trends from these past few months - Reform have led comfortably every single one however - the more incompetent Labour show themselves to be, the more conservatives have very slowly crept up behind them. After Kemi’s fantastic performance on Wednesday, conservatives leapt forward in the polls and now it current stands as Reform in the lead and conservatives in second place. I think a lot of Tory voters who went to reform are starting to come back thanks to Kemi

It will bring Tory voters back from Reform once it's clear that a vote for the Conservatives won't be a lost vote.

HelloDandy · 28/11/2025 18:05

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/11/2025 18:02

See that's what I don't understand.

He was beginning to turn things around and then he called the snap election. They would have sone so much better 6 months later.

Wasn't it time for an election? Think He kind of had to call one.

I agree with you as it goes. Shame he ran out of time.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/11/2025 18:06

HelloDandy · 28/11/2025 18:05

Wasn't it time for an election? Think He kind of had to call one.

I agree with you as it goes. Shame he ran out of time.

No, he had more time. He called it early.

HelloDandy · 28/11/2025 18:09

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/11/2025 18:06

No, he had more time. He called it early.

Ah yes, you're right now I come think about it 👍

Sharptonguedwoman · 28/11/2025 18:25

TheendofmrY · 27/11/2025 16:03

Unless I missed hell freezing over, no. No it’s not.

Hooray!! Thank you!

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 28/11/2025 18:35

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 17:30

Bizarre the vitriol she gets. Who do you like, Starmer?

Not anymore. I mean, I didn’t like him before but I had hope.

Bizarre that a) anyone would think Badenoch was anything but a waste of space and b) that just because someone doesn’t like her they’d automatically be a Starmer fan.

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 18:37

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 28/11/2025 18:35

Not anymore. I mean, I didn’t like him before but I had hope.

Bizarre that a) anyone would think Badenoch was anything but a waste of space and b) that just because someone doesn’t like her they’d automatically be a Starmer fan.

So who do you back?

She’s not a waste of space, of course not.

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 18:56

cloudtreecarpet · 28/11/2025 17:50

What bullying & where is your evidence?

Do you ever watch PMQs? See the difference in his sneering contempt towards women who challenge him?
Ask Rosie Duffield, or Liz Savile-Roberts (who he had to apologise to).
Its all there for those who choose to see.

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 18:58

Those who hate Kemi will be pleased to know that the tories are outpacing all the other parties for donations.
They have received more than double what Reform have received. Kemi is doing well.

x12 · 28/11/2025 19:15

@TheNuthatch can you explain why you think labour are the only party that have policies to appeal to their voter base? 🤔

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 28/11/2025 19:22

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 18:37

So who do you back?

She’s not a waste of space, of course not.

If you say so babes. She always has been and probably always will be, a fucking idiot. In my opinion.

And I don’t know right now who I back. Not Tories, never have. Definitely not Reform. I’ve always voted Labour but that might not happen again by the looks of things.

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 19:25

x12 · 28/11/2025 19:15

@TheNuthatch can you explain why you think labour are the only party that have policies to appeal to their voter base? 🤔

You what now?

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:28

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 28/11/2025 19:22

If you say so babes. She always has been and probably always will be, a fucking idiot. In my opinion.

And I don’t know right now who I back. Not Tories, never have. Definitely not Reform. I’ve always voted Labour but that might not happen again by the looks of things.

‘Babes’ yeh no to that. I can see the issue.

So you can’t say which politician you back. Although if you’ve always voted Labour and won’t then you’ll be among many.