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AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

553 replies

StarlightRobot · 27/11/2025 16:02

Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

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AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:30

OriginalUsername2 · 27/11/2025 16:04

She used the term “benefit street” so she can get to fuck.

That’s part of what I liked about her brilliant speech, following RR’s droning slopey shoulders fiasco. Kemi Badenoch was on point. Labour are the benefits party and are economically illiterate. Can’t wait for them to disappear and Kemi to be PM.

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:31

AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:30

That’s part of what I liked about her brilliant speech, following RR’s droning slopey shoulders fiasco. Kemi Badenoch was on point. Labour are the benefits party and are economically illiterate. Can’t wait for them to disappear and Kemi to be PM.

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Hate to disappoint you but Kemi is never in a million years going to be PM. Thankfully!

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:33

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:31

Hate to disappoint you but Kemi is never in a million years going to be PM. Thankfully!

She’s polling higher than Starmer and overtaken Labour so have you accepted defeat already for them. Is it never in a million years for Labour already?

x12 · 28/11/2025 19:34

TheNuthatch · 28/11/2025 19:25

You what now?

Reread your previous reply to me, I thought it was nonsense to 😄

AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:34

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:31

Hate to disappoint you but Kemi is never in a million years going to be PM. Thankfully!

Oh great you can predict the future! Clever you 👏🏻. Lottery numbers tomorrow?

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:36

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:33

She’s polling higher than Starmer and overtaken Labour so have you accepted defeat already for them. Is it never in a million years for Labour already?

The Tories will not regain power with her in charge. She’s no better than Reform and the UK doesn’t need two nasty parties.

Holdonforsummer · 28/11/2025 19:36

Kemi is awful (IMHO). She seems filled with gleeful, hateful, quasi-racist rage.

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:37

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:36

The Tories will not regain power with her in charge. She’s no better than Reform and the UK doesn’t need two nasty parties.

Yes I get how you feel but Labour are lower in the polls so is it over for them?

AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:40

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:36

The Tories will not regain power with her in charge. She’s no better than Reform and the UK doesn’t need two nasty parties.

Labour are the nasty party. Undoubtedly. Horrible little nasty backstabbing lying hypocrites. Champagne socialists. Reform are nothing, really it’s bizarre so many are obsessed by them (especially misogynist bollard Starmer). They’ll disappear soon as they appeared. The Conservatives are the only sensible choice these days. Sooner people wake up the better. There’s time.

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:41

Holdonforsummer · 28/11/2025 19:36

Kemi is awful (IMHO). She seems filled with gleeful, hateful, quasi-racist rage.

Her detractors come across this way.

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:41

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:37

Yes I get how you feel but Labour are lower in the polls so is it over for them?

Not talking about Labour but Kemi. I know she has no policies other than nastiness and bashing anything Labour but even so.

AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:42

Holdonforsummer · 28/11/2025 19:36

Kemi is awful (IMHO). She seems filled with gleeful, hateful, quasi-racist rage.

No. She’s had so much misogynistic racist passive aggressive rage thrown at her by the Labour Party (and others), she just doesn’t give a shit about telling the truth. Unfortunately many can’t deal with it.

loganrock · 28/11/2025 19:43

I like her. I think she’s impressive.

AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:44

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:41

Her detractors come across this way.

Yes. Almost as if they’re projecting.

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:47

AlexandraBee · 28/11/2025 19:40

Labour are the nasty party. Undoubtedly. Horrible little nasty backstabbing lying hypocrites. Champagne socialists. Reform are nothing, really it’s bizarre so many are obsessed by them (especially misogynist bollard Starmer). They’ll disappear soon as they appeared. The Conservatives are the only sensible choice these days. Sooner people wake up the better. There’s time.

Unfortunately as we’ve seen Reform won’t disappear and the Tories are just trying to be Reform mark 2 with Kemi at the helm. It’s sad to watch. I suppose we should be glad we’re not being inflicted with the Bullingdon Club grabbing the headlines for a few years but frankly being subjected to Kemi’s endless nasty empty vitriol is more than tedious.

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 28/11/2025 19:47

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:28

‘Babes’ yeh no to that. I can see the issue.

So you can’t say which politician you back. Although if you’ve always voted Labour and won’t then you’ll be among many.

I can’t say because I don’t know. I’m agreeing with some of what Zack Polanski says and Ed Davey, but not enough to vote for their parties necessarily. Plaid is an option for where I live but I don’t know enough about them (yet).

Tuls3y · 28/11/2025 19:48

loganrock · 28/11/2025 19:43

I like her. I think she’s impressive.

In what way? She has no skills other than spouting vitriol.

Mercurial123 · 28/11/2025 19:48

HermioneWeasley · 27/11/2025 16:04

I think she’s very impressive

😆 🤣

CurlewKate · 28/11/2025 19:49

I think her response to the budget was very unpleasant and over personal.

KitWyn · 28/11/2025 19:49

cloudtreecarpet · 28/11/2025 07:04

I agree
People say that Labour should have been honest about tax rises in their manifesto and would still have won the election but we all know that's very unlikely.
Generally people hate paying tax, hate paying for welfare & benefits and that has got worse over recent years.

People on good salaries with houses, private pensions & savings are moaning about the end of the two child cap because they feel that some people (let's be honest, women) are getting money for nothing.
But those people will only get that money while their children are children. And children are expensive.
Once their children are grown it stops but those moaners with private pensions, houses, savings, good salaries etc will still have those & will face a far better future. Maybe there will be slightly less in their pension pot or their savings but it's still a very different life ahead.
The idea people are on easy street because they are given benefits to help them raise children is ridiculous.

Labour can't change everything overnight but they are a left wing party. Of course they are going to improve welfare and raise the minimum wage & tax people who have more. It's literally what the party stands for.
Are they perfect, no? Have they made mistakes, yes?
But so has every government before them and no more so than the Tories.

The understandable anger is that many UK couples on good-ish salaries can only afford to have one or two children. They'd love to have another but the cost of childcare and their current mortgage means it wouldn't be financially responsible. This is particularly true in London where the cost of housing is so very high.

These couples would need to be saints to be happy that tax thresholds are being frozen partly to pay for the removal of the two child cap for large families reliant on means-tested benefits. So they will be contributing more to provide higher payments to parents, who in almost all cases were financially struggling, but still had a third, fourth or even a fifth child regardless.

These couples don't get an additional £3.5k tax-free per year for every child. In fact their child benefit is clawed back through tax. They can't request a larger subsidised council house because the current one is too crowded for their expanded family.

I'm worried we are seeing the UK's social contract breaking down.

Many natural Labour voters are very angry that this Budget proved that Labour's chosen people are limited to state pensioners, those on NMW and large families on benefits. Nothing for those on middle incomes. Nothing in the Budget to stimulate economic growth and to give a vision of a thriving, happier UK for everyone to look forward to. Just a cynical redistribution of money to shore up Labour's key voting base of those who are predominantly net takers from the public purse.

I am very fearful the backlash to this budget will result in a Reform government in 2029.

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:49

Mercurial123 · 28/11/2025 19:48

😆 🤣

Who do you back and want to win?

ACynicalDad · 28/11/2025 19:50

Rishi and then Hunt had started to sort the economy post Covid. I’d rather a Tory than anything else and if she’s what they’re offering that will have to be it.

MyLimeGuide · 28/11/2025 19:52

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 28/11/2025 19:22

If you say so babes. She always has been and probably always will be, a fucking idiot. In my opinion.

And I don’t know right now who I back. Not Tories, never have. Definitely not Reform. I’ve always voted Labour but that might not happen again by the looks of things.

Raving loony party?

Mercurial123 · 28/11/2025 19:52

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 19:49

Who do you back and want to win?

Edited

The Conservatives got us in this mess and Kemi Badenoch isn't the answer, or even worse Reform. I'll stick with Labour thanks.

Blump2783 · 28/11/2025 19:53

Why is nobody talking about the lib dems as an alternative? I was always a Labour voter but went lib dem at the last election. I don't think they get enough airtime and that could be their problem.