AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

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Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

I meant the whole lot of them, there was shouting from everywhere in there. Shouting, laughing, jeering, do you think it is ok from any party, it was a job to hear what was going on.

I agree. Like a bunch of schoolboys on the last day of term.

And these people are being paid by the tax payer..... shame on them.

Do I want Labour out? 100% yes. Do I want Reform in? 100% No. Do I want the Conseratives back in quickly after the terrible efforts of the last Government? Also No. So who do I vote for? Who knows.

She's a bully whose policies would be absolutely dreadful for women (no, not That One. She is right about That One).

Have you suffered from a mental illness before?

I think Kemi, unlike BJ, is a principled, fairly pragmatic and hard working politician, which is a good combination. (BJ suffered from laziness and lack of self-disapline.)

It would be ideal if the Tories could use their time in opposition to develop their team. You can't base everything on one person. This seems like it's been a struggle from what I can see.

It seems at the moment like Labour might not be the government after the next election, so one hopes the Conservatives will get it together. The other options all seem bonkers or incompetent, or both.

I really think people need to do a lot of dictionary work about the meaning of socialism.

Lol its definately not. Look at the polls, read the thread!

Yes she is far worse- there is nothing there policy wise other than vitriol and nastiness. She has poor qualifications- privately educated( probably why the Tories love her) with BBD Alevels and went to the university of Sussex. Going by the dreadful autism leaflet she published she is clearly not even able to research accurately. She lied about being offered a scholarship to Stanford. It’s all on Wiki.

Not great credentials for the leader of the UK

The tories are naturally incredibly neoliberal. This works to serve the rich very well and anyone well connected enough to reach those heights. It never works for the poorest, they always suffer and the country ends up like the Dickensian nightmare it’s been for the past 15 years.

If you read Gary Stevenson’s Trading Game, you’ll realise a lot of the neoliberal rhetoric about social mobility is nonsense. It’s often a game of good fortune- meeting the right person at the right time. Being rich is easier when born rich.

Not a chance. She’s a dreadful woman

Exactly what we are seeing from Labour now. Fourteen years of carping from the sidelines and now a shower.

It’s not just her. It’s more so if you mean Starmer and Reeves, look at the polls.

Gary Stevens is a grifter. He has been debunked again, and again.

This won’t be the case, not after the last few weeks. It applies more to Starmer, he has obvious issues with his party. Perhaps he’ll be ousted.

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It was interesting to hear Aysha Azarikas take on it. She said when it came out that Badenoch had hacked Harriet Harman's emails (I think it was emails could have been some other internet account) she contacted zHH begging her to let it go as she was just a young black female MP. HH accepted it.

Shame she wasn't torn to shreds like she does to others.

No.. we can all see clearly that Labour are trying to out reform reform. Labour are obsessed with reform. Peculiar, really.

Even the guardian hate Labour these days. And the mirror. Oh. Dear.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/28/congratulations-keir-starmer-survives-26bn

The Tories have nothing to offer, Labour have nothing to offer and Reform have nothing to offer. I'm really struggling to think who I will vote for. I'm looking for creativity and courage to drive growth in our economy - I haven't seen any Gov attempting to do this for decades.

Labour’s emojis every time. It’s not working for you is it. Every week you lose supporters. What’s going on? Where’s the positivity and change.

Someone might have said this already but of course the Lib Dem’s, like Keir Starmer, think that some women have penises. Therefore if men can be women, women as a group don’t exist in their own right at all. Why would any woman ever vote for them? A party who deny biological reality with the consequence being women’s rights don’t exist. Mind boggling. But like Lammy telling us men can grow a cervix. Just no. No to labour and no to the Lib Dem’s. The greens economically illiterate on top of thinking some women have penises. And reform. Just no. Which leaves us only with one viable option. It’s the Conservatives.

The country will literally be bankrupt by the next parliament, that's what.

The truth hurts.

I think she has a clear vision about debt. The most, most, most important thing we can do is get the national debt down because without that we will be gasping for air, financially speaking, forever. She isn't afraid of the trans lobby, I had decent hopes of Bridget at first but she's completely rolled over. We have to get the benefits bill under control because if we don't, the whole country will go under. It's going to top 100 billion by the end of this parliament, that is going to cripple us.

Shabana Mahmood made a really good point when she was trying to propose a solution for the small boats. If we don't do it, think about who will. If you don't like the tories, you'll like a reform a whole lot less. The tories at least have a clue of how government works and runs. Our Reform candidate at the last election was a part time barman at the local golf club. That's the sort of new MPs you'll most likely get in a Reform government and god help us all.

Yes. I’m starting to think that everyone should try and claim benefits. It seems the Labour government are giving them to everyone. We should all go on the ‘find what benefits you’re Entitled to’ calculator, and Claim. This is because we know it’s a ridiculous situation the uk can’t afford, as a country. Perhaps we need to get to rock bottom, no money left for people to understand, it’s not a sustainable system.

Too many people taking the piss, too much uncontrolled immigration into the country using resources we don’t have enough of already.

People need to wake up. But of course whilst £££ is pouring free untaxed into bank accounts, they won’t. It’s only when the tap runs dry, it’ll stop. So let’s bring that to its logical conclusion. Let’s bankrupt the government by everyone claiming benefits. Play with the benefit calculator until it says you can claim.

Woo hoo! There’s encouragement and courage. It’s everything Labour have asked for.