AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

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Rachel Reeves has broken her promise that new taxes would not be levied on working people. She hasn’t followed through with her promise to prioritise growth. She failed to deliver welfare reform. It is clear that the current government is now led by the newly elected backbenchers. Labour are punishing those of us who work and save, taxing our pensions and making life more expensive for working families. She is making it more difficult for employers to hire staff and graduates in particular are suffering from a lack of opportunity due to her policies.

Keir Starmer failed to get any support for welfare reform from his backbenchers and is coasting politically.

Both Rachel and Keir have shown that political survival means more to them than delivering a budget that grows the economy and helps those of us who work hard and aspire for more. I feel that they hate people like me and my family- we are professionals on two good wages with children, not rich, middle class, trying to improve our lives, prepare for our futures while trying to pay the bills. There is literally nothing in this budget which would help people like me, only punishment (or a ‘contribution’ as Rachel Reeves described it in her budget speech).

Yes, the tories screwed up massively under Boris and Truss. But everything that Kemi is saying about the autumn budget is spot on. Kemi also stood up for women at a time when Labour was gaslighting women across the country in relation to trans issues.

The conservatives have a huge amount of work to do to rebuild trust and develop their policies. But if they don’t gain public support we are risking the chaos of a Reform government. AIBU to say that now is the time to get behind Kemi?

I do too.

I think it’s a fair question to ask at this time. There will be no Labour government after the next election, that is simply guaranteed. So the choice we will all be making in 2029 (if not earlier) is between Reform and Tories. Worth thinking about it now.

Because the LibDems put trans rights before women’s rights. It’s a redline for many.

Indeed. I won't vote for any party that pretends not to know what a woman is.

Truthfully, I am not convinced that welfare provision should be improved. In my opinion, it needs to be curtailed. Not for the seriously ill with life threatening diseases, not for the blind, nor the mentally incompetent, but deafness can be alleviated. For anxiety or depression, work is probably part of the solution, even if the system needs to help a bit. And by help a bit, I do not suggest that all the rent and costs should be covered: maybe 25%? For a few months while the recipient gets back on their feet.

Nope

It really isn’t.

How do you know?

Evidence to the contrary are the long running threads on this forum concerning women’s sex based rights.

MN is just a forum and a fraction of the population. Many many MN members are sick of the trans threads and are sick of the anti trans bullies who hijack threads.

You must be crazy. I am a mainly conservative voters but shes so far gone down the 'work hard to get where i am' rabbit hole that she's forgotten that people should work to live not live to work. I have no plans to beat myself into an early grave because she doesnt believe in the basic rights women have fought hard for. Hell she doesnt even believe in a lunchbreak!
So no. She's awful and in no way should be the leader of the Conservatives. All they are now are the rich man's reform.
There is no one I want to vote for right now.

Absolutely. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

God no. She's unbearable. A pick me" that doesn't realise her own party despises her

She comes across as smart, but not the sort of smart required to run a country or get taken seriously. She also comes across incredibly badly in the media. She might be effective in some ways and an impressive character, but she just isn't good enough IMO . I think the Tories needs to go back to being more moderate. They lost a lot of good Tory MPs through Brexit.

Not for me neither.

You seem informed, but completely missed that Kemi was responsible for having the Scottish GRR overturned. It was a huge political risk. She has been very strong on this issue. One of the reasons I admire her - real courage and values.

Vile seems to come up a lot. Obviously people are blind to the abuse Reeves chucked at political opponents in her speech. As leader of the opposition it is literally Kemi's job to oppose the government and call out the mistakes they are making and their hypocrisy.
Re the speech. Brilliant and on point. The woman to woman stuff is relevant. Kemi is a meritocrat - equality of opportunity, not equity of outcome.so important if we are ever to get the country back on track and free up aspiration and ambition.
The cheerios part - well now we know that Reeves morning black hole scare speech was absolute lies. Unnecessary and wrong according to OBR data released today.
The fact is that what Labour are doing is vile. Doing not saying. Actions not tone. They are introducing major law changes that no one voted for, with little democratic enquiry. Starmer and Reeves are now just puppets with the real power in the far left back benches.

I think she is becoming a bit of a problem for Labour

she has certainly improved and grown in confidence and Labour are just not connecting with the public this is an issue for them that needs to change

im quite happy for the Tories to gain more support as I think having a strong opposition is good whoever is in power and more importantly the Tories increasing their popularity lessons the threat from Reform

before anyone point it’s out I am well aware that many Labour voters have become Reform supporters

If someone is willing to say that (1) women can have penises, and/or (2) a male person who identifies as a woman and is attracted to women is a lesbian, how can you trust anything else he or she says?

Either they believe this, in which case they are incapable of rational thinking, or they know it's a silly lie but are virtue signalling to their fellow wokerati.

In either case they are unfit to form the next UK Government.

LibDems, Greens and Your Party (or Our Party/For The Many/Popular Alliance, whichever stupid name wins this weekend) are all fighting in the same political space. Palestine+Trans Rights+Wealth Tax are their shared Holy Trinity.

Who would crash the UK economy and destroy our key international alliances first?

..glad it's just you.

That comment says it all...

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Please don't talk like this about Rachel Reeves. She might have made some mistakes, but that bit about the toilet is really not nice from you to say about her.

Hell no.

RR is probably very smart, but she's no politician and seems a little out of her depth. KB is actually much worse...anyone can critique from the sidelines, but she lacks any sort of coherent vision for the country. She appears to want power without knowing what she'll do with it..