To be delighted PIP assessments are to be face to face?

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The only good thing about the budget is that Rachel Reeves announced that face to face assessments for PIP and disability benefits are being brought back. AIBU to think that this is a great thing?

It will make sure that the money goes to those who need it. It is madness that such face to face assessments were ever stopped.

Unfortunately, because people health has overall deteriorated since the start if Covid.

If it was just because it’s so easy, numbers woukd have gone through the roof a very long time ago. Thetes been no change on the way assessments are done fur quite q
a while now. So it’s not easier. If it’s not easier, it’s that there are simply more people who are ill - maybe because they’re not treated on the NHS in a timely manner. Maybe because of LC. Maybe fur other reasons.
But it’s not because it’s easy or easier.

My current claim is due for reassessment next August, I shall ask for it to be recorded @youalright, thank you for letting me know this was an option. (I may still record it myself anyway) They should always be recorded, for accuracy and accountability on both sides.

(so much public money is wasted reassessing people like me with chronic incurable conditions, I’m not going to get better, ever, why do they put me through this every three years? It’s inhumane and pointless)

It was in her speech. Disability Assessments are bring brought back to being in person. She had a jab at the shadow chancellor for making them remote in the first place.

The problem is that not all disabilities are visible.

Much better to protect those who will end up with a worsening of their health just because they’ve been asked to come for a face to face assessment that will show nothing.

So once again she either doesn’t know what she is talking about or is wiping people up against disabled and chronically ill people.

Neither is good look.
Thats scapegoating the most vulnerable in society to distract from her increase in taxes on ordinary people.
And remind me? They’re supposed to be Labour? WTF

I agree, this is an awful thread.

Those who are gleeful at this could become chronically ill and or disabled themselves any time, there but for the grace of god etc.
I suppose they will feel differently if it happens to them or their loved ones.

I know. I’ve been accused several times on this thread of being a troll, of deliberately stirring up antipathy towards those on PIPs.

It may be an extreme example, but I’ve only reported what I know to be true. It’s almost as though some posters live sheltered lives, and don’t personally know or associate with any deprived or dysfunctional people. Benefit fiddlers are everyone - or at least they are where I live, which is an area with high levels of poverty and deprivation.

Lucky for your DS, meanwhile I know someone who literally had to crawl in front of their assessor because they were too poorly to walk and was recorded on their assessment that they had no mobility problems and were well and able to move around on their own without support. Benefit fraud is only approximately 3.3% of all benefits claimed. Not really the figures they claim them to be. Keep in mind they also include in that figure people who have accidentally over claimed as they've earned maye 5/10£ over the limit or unaware they've continued to be paid where they shouldn't have and then are forced to pay back even when the fault is on the government.
When compared to tax evasion or tax avoidance schemes it is far less of an issue however it is demonised far more.

@Shakeyourwammyfannyfunkysong
Theres no support from the NHS that realistically can help shift that pressure- if young people as young as 16 are eligible for PIP the massive shake up needs to be school level and beyond- social clubs and grassroots organisations that can accommodate ASD/ADHD, mental health resources on the NHS.
My DH is a counsellor/therapist who works a lot with both looked after children and children in the community and adults.
He works privately and keeps his fees down but some parents don’t understand the source problems- they think divorce or abuse or ASD isn’t really a problem.
Those children grow up to be adults with severe problems that MiGHT be assisted with therapy and community activities but the problem most likely lies closer to home and there’s no fraud checking that will get those people easily out of a lifelong hole.
If there were to be budget improvements to shape a change in prevention for MH related issues it needs to be pumped into the NHS (like Brexit promised but failed).

I don't many of us are arguing that she isn't incompetent. I doubt knows what's shes talking about otherwise she woundn't have increased the cost employee people at the same time as betting on growth.

Like i said sure

In principle but I'm housebound effectively so will they be dragging people out? It's already taken 7-plus months.

How on earth could you be “delighted” about that? What impact will it have on you?

@Bumblebee72
Shes then talking shit because the assessments were remote during Covid as everything was and she’d know that given that she blames Covid for many things (not incorrectly).
Shes trying to appease benefits badgers I suppose.
Literally nothing about face to face assessments is new.
She should have figures on costs for the assessments already so I presume she factored that into her guff (of course not!). I think she’s a twat and this is the worst Labour government ever. But that’s another days work I suppose

My DH was visited by an assessor with no medical background or qualifications. She had an active cold and my DH was on immunosuppressants. She could have killed him. What’s wrong with listening to the doctors and experts about these things? How does a capita assessor improve anything for anyone?

Benefits badgers again 🤣🤣 - badgers obvs.

I would also like to see child benefit assessors in the labour room while the mother is crowning while we're at it BTW.

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER

Sure, we all are!
Come join us..
My disabled daughter needs a bath. Can you carry her after changing her incontinence pad please? I’m tired from duping the system

I agree I think thats fair, got to treat everyone equally

You do realise that disabled people can travel don't you? If you are going to report everyone who goes on holiday while claiming PIP as potential fraudsters to the DWP purely on the basis that they can't both be disabled and go on holiday you'll be wasting a lot of time and resources and causing potential distress to genuinely disabled people. As I said in a previous post, I have been on many holidays throughout my life and no amount of foreign travel has caused the eyes I was born without to develop so still very much disabled.

The rates are insanely unfair as someone who has no physical disability but "anxiety" get the same amount as someone experiencing lifelong severely debilitating conditions such as MS, Cancer, SLD, Blindness, Limb loss etc. It's madness.

Why have you put anxiety in inverted commas @RavenclawWitchy as if it’s made up or somehow inferior to other conditions? My son has OCD, an ANXIETY disorder. His life has shrunk to the size of his bedroom. He doesn’t attend school. He barely eats. I have to help him with personal care. I could go on. But sure it’s nothing. Just ‘anxiety’🙄 Just because you can’t see it with your judgemental eyeballs, doesn’t mean it isn’t severely debilitating. Come and look after him for a day and see how that goes for you.

So true , my son scored 0 after having a stroke and losing the sight in one eye. He was very confused in the aftermath of the stroke, I think the 'medical professional ' thought he was being awkward saying he couldn't remember things . He found it very stressful so won't appeal.

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHERme to all my consultants just wrote in my medical records that I have multiple organ failure and that i will live a significantly shorter life just for a laugh so that I could claim pip 🤣🤣🤣

I have a nephew who claimed PIP due to a medical condition. He had a phone assessment, lied and said he couldn't leave the house. He was awarded PIP and next thing you know he's on holiday halfway around the world. He also has a car and drives around quite happily.