To be delighted PIP assessments are to be face to face?

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The only good thing about the budget is that Rachel Reeves announced that face to face assessments for PIP and disability benefits are being brought back. AIBU to think that this is a great thing?

It will make sure that the money goes to those who need it. It is madness that such face to face assessments were ever stopped.

Indeed. There documenting every contraction. Got to prove that baby isn't made up!

When have I said or suggested that anyone genuinely entitled shouldn’t get PIP?

Let me guess.

He couldn't wait to tell you about how he lied and said he couldn't leave the house and went on to brag about how easy it was to get PIP?

Genuine question, how fucking stupid do you think people are?

Although this thread kinda answers that.

I am not.

My son has big struggles but is in massive denial. He thinks he can do everything, travel the world alone, needs no help etc.

In fact , he does , but he gets very upset and self critical so I have to make out it’s ok everyone needs help , I’m washing your hair to help you because of time etc. I am taking you here because I worry not because you can’t travel alone. He goes on a bus and I follow the bus in my car. His transport was removed so I put him on the bus and track him the whole way sending him in to an unsafe world as there is no option. He cannot do these things completely safely and I do a lot because of this but if someone asks him he will say he can do everything fine. Then he will lose his money, and be heartbroken when he realises he can’t get a job and he has nothing. There needs to be allowances .

The DWP’s own data says that PIP fraud is 0.4% so statistically negligible, this would indicate that it’s already going to those who genuinely need it.

I’d rather they stopped wasting money by putting people with lifelong disabilities through pointless reassessment and stopped automatically declining applications with a raft of supporting medical evidence, imagining their 30 minute read is superior to consultant/ GP/ Occ Health knowledge of the person, only to have the decision overturned at tribunal - which happens in about 70% of cases.

I think I actually hate this government and the implications of strategies like this one. The most vulnerable in our society are being policed and interrogated. As long as Keir Starmer is leader of the Party this lifelong Labour voter will never vote for them again. Zack Polanski has my vote.

Valid. Nothing more to say really.

He didn't tell me. He told my DCs, his cousins. They're all about the same age and very close. My DCs then told me.

Yeah he told me too. Then we had a great conversation about the earth being flat and him dating Jennifer Aniston

What disability allowance is that? Over and above PIP and UC?

THESE BENEFITS BASHING THREADS ARE SO BORING

You can travel & go on holiday and still be eligible for PIP. Helped by others, assistance at airports and on flights & travelling companion, coach journeys, mobility scooters etc etc

No! You must not! You should sit in darkness and thank the taxpayer while repenting.

You said i bet some of these mumsnetters arguing against this are themselves on the fiddle. The reason we argue about this is because we know how hard the pip process is and everytime there is a thread about disability benefits suddenly everyone know all these random peoples full finances and medical histories and how easy it is to get pip and how people don't even need medical evidence and can just tell the dwp they are disabled and they just get given money. Anyone who has actually been through the pip process and understands how much medical evidence is needed and how much you have to fight on top of that to prove how every tiny bit of that medical evidence effects you knows how much bullshit is written on these threads and how gullible people will read it and believe it and use it as a reason to hate disabled people. These threads are daily its so hard being disabled its scary and lonely and knowing the world is against you makes it harder

Not if, in order to be awarded PIP, you've said you can't leave the house.

Where is the news story? I can’t seem to find it. Starting to wish I hadn’t wasted my energy posting on here before checking. And the OP dumped and ran. Another clarion call to those who love to criticise the disabled. Bollocks to that.

Agree, but what this has shown me is loads of people actually don't hate the disabled and read actual stats and know that these fairytale stories of "my nephew said that, his friend said..." are nonsense.

So your implying he lied about going on holiday and getting car, and is in fact still in his bedroom? That feels like an odder thing to brag about.....

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ THEM!

It's people like you that are the problem. How do you think we are going to be able to afford the uncontrollable rise in PIP in the coming years? I'm emigrating, so I guess you'll have to pay more tax to make up for loss of the many thousands DH and I pay. Enjoy! I'll be watching the UK implode from afar.

Well if the government really wants to save some money on PIP they could start by making sure that the assessors are suitably qualified. I am DD's appointee for benefits and when I had to apply for PIP for her when she turned 16 I supplied loads of medical and other evidence and took ages filling in the form. That in itself was a truly depressing thing to do. The assessor phoned me and said she would call back in an hour when she had looked at the documents.

When she called back she quite clearly hadn't looked at it in any detail. She asked if DD would be doing O Levels. This is a child who has no concept of time, counts on her fingers, has no idea of the value of money, struggles to understand the difference between actors on TV and real people and who still watches CBeebies.

She also had no idea what DD's neurological condition actually was so I had to explain it to her.

Perhaps if the assessors actually read the applications properly and had some knowledge of medical conditions there wouldn't be so many mandatory reconsiderations and appeals. The DWP often holds out until the last minute and then settles just before a tribunal hearing.

I agree that there should be proper assessments but if an assessor does not know what they are doing then whether it is on the phone or F2F makes not a jot of difference.

No, I'm saying his farfetched tales of knowing someone of screwing the system are nonsense

Pip is technically in 4 parts. Low and high rate daily living and low and high rate mobility only about 30% of people are on high rate for both. Not being able to leave the house is just one of the questions the majority of people will be able to leave the house. I can leave the house and I claim pip. I leave the house to go to work

So you're an... immigrant? How do you feel about that? That's probably a different topic, eh