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Do rich people feel guilty?

227 replies

OneWiseAmberOP · 23/11/2025 14:19

By rich I mean comfortably private school, buying luxury items and holidays on a regular basis witohut having to save up for it.

If you think you've earned your money and people are just jealous do you not see 'your' money came from extactive capitalistic practices and its taken from the pockets of people who are not rich...?

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BMW6 · 24/11/2025 13:29

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 12:28

Potentially. My parents were very relaxed about my non attendance in school in the 6 months before GCSEs. My dad did shout at me when I dropped out of college to work full time but other than that there wasn't much guidance

There you have it. Your Dad shouting was completely wrong as he - and your Mum - failed you as parents, I'm sorry to say.

ShoesHurt · 24/11/2025 13:30

BMW6 · 24/11/2025 13:29

There you have it. Your Dad shouting was completely wrong as he - and your Mum - failed you as parents, I'm sorry to say.

Exactly

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 13:34

BMW6 · 24/11/2025 13:29

There you have it. Your Dad shouting was completely wrong as he - and your Mum - failed you as parents, I'm sorry to say.

I think they knew life would work out fine for me, because I was smart enough. Only, it didn't.

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 13:34

I'm so proud of DC and hope they break the cycle it's looking like it

Burlingtonbertha · 24/11/2025 13:52

A lot of it is down to parental attitude. The sheer number of parents that are still walking their kids to school well after the bell has rung around here is staggering. Failing their kids from the very start of school. What are they thinking???

Zigazigarrr · 24/11/2025 14:03

Nope. You talk about people like Jeff Bezos earning his money "off you".That's a bit simplistic. Not only does he employ and therefore pay 75,000 people in the UK he came up with a concept that can be objectively sold. That's what made him money. The process of selling and running that business takes time, effort, risk and courage.

My father, who ran big big businesses travelled endlessly. He was away from my mother endlessly. My childhood was stress and midnight chats between my parents to talk through problems when he was home endlessly. And yes, he made a shit tonne of money which he is now taxed on endlessly (like 5 figures of tax every month and he’s in his 80’s).

In turn, his work ethic means I now run a business. Having that business means I have to put myself out and yes I make money from that. Money I can spend how I want (including on public school fees for three - oh how hateful) because I value what I spend my money on and so the world goes round.

YowieeF · 24/11/2025 14:09

I met a guy once who was incredibly wealthy - no idea how wealthy, but it was a lot. He had inherited a small amount and invested it and started a few businesses - somw of which thrived, some didn’t.
He employed people and paid them, his ethics were sound. He took a loan out and bought into a company in the entertainment industry and his investment helped them launch into films.
This made him a millionaire - he bought his round of drinks, treated everyone well and was an all round decent bloke.

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 15:00

Burlingtonbertha · 24/11/2025 13:52

A lot of it is down to parental attitude. The sheer number of parents that are still walking their kids to school well after the bell has rung around here is staggering. Failing their kids from the very start of school. What are they thinking???

I think people just struggle sometimes

Whatisrichandhaveiearnedit · 24/11/2025 16:05

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 15:00

I think people just struggle sometimes

I think that applies to very few people in reality.
Some do not realise what it takes (own personal time, extra hours etc) through fault of their own but many just can’t be
arsed.

Whatisrichandhaveiearnedit · 24/11/2025 16:06

Heronwatcher · 24/11/2025 12:52

I think it will depend on your friend group.

In the field I work in most of my peers are from not privileged backgrounds at all. Of my 6 closest friends in the same profession 5 went to state (very normal) schools, 3 from single parent families others from very low income households. We all went to good unis but mostly self funded, and then did professional qualifications and training at big organisations. To a certain extent I think it’s because you have to have a certain level of aptitude in the early days which no amount of privilege and spoon feeding can give you!

I’d say the difference is that we all
have good brains but also common sense so we knew we had to knuckle down and pass exams to get on in life. Loads of my classmates from my “home” town frankly pissed about at school, bunked off, drank, partied didn’t bother to revise- just had fun. Background no different to mine just didn’t bother to put the same level of work in.

This

Whatisrichandhaveiearnedit · 24/11/2025 16:07

Everanewbie · 24/11/2025 13:16

Which is true. There are certain jobs that are hard work. I'm not sure I could hack being a care assistant or a coal miner. But I chose a career that pays reasonably well, definitely not my dream job, but one that can feed the family, with no hint of vanity. I worked 8-5 an hours commute away and stayed an additional 2.5 hours 3 out of 5 nights a week for 5 years to get the qualifications that got me where I am today.

When I say hard work, I don't mean a physically demanding job, I mean the additional hours, the pushing outside of my comfort zone, the willingness to commute, the expense of self financing courses and exams.

People may have a point about certain companies exploiting workers, but this £250k household accepts no guilt whatsoever.

And this

GreenGrass555 · 24/11/2025 16:24

Guilt is maybe the wrong word, but I certainly feel very conscious that I have a lot more than others, both in this country and in terms of the billions of people living in poorer countries than me. Yes, I worked hard at school and have a reasonably good career, but I had certain advantages along the way that many don't (primarily being born in the UK, in a family that supported my education, and academically able enough to do well at school). I'm acutely aware many people don't have these advantages and know that many people work much harder than I do for less money. I find it hard to morally justify the fact I earn more than a nurse or teacher, for example.

It's why I find it extremely hard to care about paying a few hundred more in tax a year (I can easily afford it) when I think about how hard many people have it in this country, especially children. And who knows where I'll be in the future? Relationship breakdowns, disabilities, job loss... can happen to any of us. So I definitely don't experience my good fortune as solely down to own hard work, a lot of luck was involved too.

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 16:36

I've had the thought though, why won't the dentist do it for free ? I need it done, and they are rich but turn you away out of money, I feel like this aspect of withholding medical care is unethical, and that someone in that position could feel guilty but they must just be numb to it from all the similar cases they see.

Nanny0gg · 24/11/2025 16:39

OneWiseAmberOP · 23/11/2025 14:32

You first

Rich people often provide employment for other people

Why should they feel guilty?

ShoesHurt · 24/11/2025 16:41

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 16:36

I've had the thought though, why won't the dentist do it for free ? I need it done, and they are rich but turn you away out of money, I feel like this aspect of withholding medical care is unethical, and that someone in that position could feel guilty but they must just be numb to it from all the similar cases they see.

Forcing someone to do work without payment is slavery.

Nanny0gg · 24/11/2025 16:41

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 16:36

I've had the thought though, why won't the dentist do it for free ? I need it done, and they are rich but turn you away out of money, I feel like this aspect of withholding medical care is unethical, and that someone in that position could feel guilty but they must just be numb to it from all the similar cases they see.

So who will pay for the premises? The equipment? The materials? Their expertise? Their staff?

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 17:18

Nanny0gg · 24/11/2025 16:41

So who will pay for the premises? The equipment? The materials? Their expertise? Their staff?

I know but the cost is so extortionate without loans and a lot of people can't get credit. The materials do not cost anything like a private dentist charges, and there are things the NHS won't cover. It is, it's unethical and I hope they do feel guilty about it.

ShoesHurt · 24/11/2025 17:23

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 17:18

I know but the cost is so extortionate without loans and a lot of people can't get credit. The materials do not cost anything like a private dentist charges, and there are things the NHS won't cover. It is, it's unethical and I hope they do feel guilty about it.

What do you need done?

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 17:27

I need a lot of teeth out and need to get either dentures or implants. I'm trying very hard to get loans

ShoesHurt · 24/11/2025 17:29

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 17:27

I need a lot of teeth out and need to get either dentures or implants. I'm trying very hard to get loans

Sorry to hear about that. Hope it gets sorted.

HorrorAndHaagenDazs · 24/11/2025 17:34

No, I do not feel remotely guilty.
I've spent my life working my arse off and as a result I'm comfortable enough to afford some luxury, which in turn keeps others employed and the economy moving. All of these people pay tax which in turn supports those who don't.

Socialism cant survive without capitalism.

ClareBlue · 24/11/2025 17:47

OneWiseAmberOP · 23/11/2025 14:49

Maybe, I'm not sure what im referring to. Say Jeff Bezos, he makes his money of all of us. So does Kim Kardashian, bravuse all of us buy their products, they sell out information. Their wealth is made from us...
I figure is the same for all high paying jobs.

Nobody has to contribute to his wealth. But we choose to because he runs a company making things we want. Making money out of providing basic services like water or sewage disposal or sickness, is a different matter, and most agree that is the immoral side of capalistic society and needs the state to control.

ShoesHurt · 24/11/2025 17:55

ClareBlue · 24/11/2025 17:47

Nobody has to contribute to his wealth. But we choose to because he runs a company making things we want. Making money out of providing basic services like water or sewage disposal or sickness, is a different matter, and most agree that is the immoral side of capalistic society and needs the state to control.

What about food? Is it bad that Tesco makes a profit?

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 18:03

ShoesHurt · 24/11/2025 17:55

What about food? Is it bad that Tesco makes a profit?

Should be regulated by the government.

blueshoes · 24/11/2025 18:08

Xmasdemon · 24/11/2025 18:03

Should be regulated by the government.

Do explain what you mean. Food safety is already very highly regulated by the government.