Do rich people feel guilty?

[OneWiseAmberOP]

By rich I mean comfortably private school, buying luxury items and holidays on a regular basis witohut having to save up for it.

If you think you've earned your money and people are just jealous do you not see 'your' money came from extactive capitalistic practices and its taken from the pockets of people who are not rich...?

I don't use Amazon ever since a friend of mine worked for them. It's essentially indentured slavery.

I'm from a wealthy family, but I've always been very self sufficient. I've been homeless. I know that I'm the only person that can sort my life out.

I have, I guess, capital. It's always been up to me to sort my own silly nonsense out though.

How is it indentured slavery? That's quite a bold statement to make.

If I was rich properly though I would keep a lookout for people online talking about essential money they need for housing or medical expenses and gift them enough to sort it out. Ive been there and felt abandoned by society. I would also enjoy giving people on the streets, especially older, vulnerable women keys to their own new place. I would not feel guilty though if I didn't do any of these things.

I think it would be a decent job working for Amazon they are paid well

I know a few people who worked at Amazon while studying/had small children and needed flexible hours. All speak highly of it.

Nope. And I LOVE capitalism. I figured out the rules of the game early on, and played to win. We dont come from money. But our kids now do.

The latest round of commies can fuck right off with their nonsense.

No.

All I think about communism capitalism blah blah, is that there should be substantial standard of free healthcare and no one should be going hungry

I don’t get all these people saying that the wealthy made their money on the backs of others (slavery hasn’t been legal for years! Do they mean by providing people with jobs which people can goose to do or not?), or taking money from poorer people’s pockets (do they mean by providing these people with goods and services?).

The utilities bills are a scandal in this country but that’s down to years of piss poor government oversight. In what other way have people got rich by exploitation?

Agree. The very basics should be provided then people should take action if they want more.

I don't think OP has thought it through. Capitalism in my opinion has this dark side where there is generational wealth and general poverty persisting via social and financial factors. It is much much harder for a bright kid in a bad social and school setting to get to uni than it is for an average kid in affluent circumstances to do so

I always think of rich as billionaires or people with inherited wealth but I guess by your criteria that's a much wider pool. We could have afforded private school but I think private education is morally indefensible. I work in a very well remunerated area of medical science and exDH is in tech, so when we were together we were pretty loaded. Guilt? No, but a sense of responsibility maybe. I don't accept that 'The peasants are suffering to prop up your lifestyle' because what I do is crucial, takes a long time to qualify for and it is hard to recruit (hence the big bucks). HTH

People like OP just regurgitate a load of claptrap they’ve heard from goodness knows who to make them feel better about being skint. It’s not about them pissing away their school years and thereafter failing to progress in live. Oh no it’s the nasty neo-liberal capitalist oppressors who are to blame.

I don't think that's fair either, though. Someone has to do the low-paid jobs and it therefore follows that we shouldn't be judging those who do (and as a result are not well-off).

I appreciate low pay workers, but they’re not oppressed. They have a job. Are being given money in exchange for the work. If they had more skills they’d be paid more but they don’t so they aren’t.

You haven't been through school in a rough area have you

Wouldn't it be great if they made universities just for adults and somehow an adult with a family could survive on student funding ?

I regularly feel guilty when I walk past homeless people begging having just spent £5 on a hot chocolate from Starbucks for example. I feel a bit sick at myself for being extravagant. I also feel guilty that I earn a lot but spend it all and don’t have savings when I know lots of worse off people would be much more sensible with their money if they could earn what I do. I feel guilty that I earn better than people with meaningful and harder jobs as well, like carers and teachers. So yes, I am a bit ashamed.

Yes I have! Very much so! That’s what pisses me off so much! Getting things lobbed at me for being ‘swotty’ all of my secondary school. Not being able to learn because this kids had got that kid in a headlock etc. all the bloody time. Non stop. At least the wee thugs could leave at 16 so we had a chance of learning after that! Did you have similar? My god it was hard! The subjects that weren’t streamed so you’d automatically learn nothing!

Ok well good on you then. I hated school so much. At GCSE time I fell out with my friend group and couldn't handle going in due to anxiety of walking around on my own and that being witnessed by the bullies so I missed loads of coursework and they only let me sit a few GCSEs... I just thought oh I'll go to college. life pulled young me in another direction...

What the OP doesn't realise is that once you hit a certain level of income/wealth, a lackey of the Illuminati takes you to one side and gives you a copy of "How to be an evil capitalist".

It contains masterful advice for educating plebs about the value of wealth like:

• See a poor person - burn a fistful of £50s in front of them to show them what they are missing through their idleness.
• Homeless person? Buy some fish and chips and let the bum see you feed them to the seagulls while laughing.
• Got employees? Sack two or three each year on their birthdays for shits and giggles. Got to love seeing them blub as they get chucked out by security with their pathetic pauper possessions following close behind.

Because obviously if you have some money you are evil and if you are poor you are good (at least in a typical fantasy socialist utopia)

We aren't rich like you explain - joint household income of about 90k. State school, 2 older cars and uk holidays. But I do have some guilt - mainly around the 11+ process where we live - we have been able to afford the 3-4k for tutoring for DD1 by going without a summer holiday to give her best opportunity to pass, others in her class equally bright have parents (often single mums) who have no hope of being able to afford it. And these children don't have same access to opportunities like clubs, swimming lessons etc. They have hard working mums who do their best but have been let down by absent useless Dads who have no interest in their children, whereas mine have a loving involved Dad. DD's friends are round ours often and they speak of their frustration towards their Dads, and it's really sad. This one is more frustration than guilt tbh

What do they have to feel guilty about?

They have a full-time job but often also need to be on some sort of benefits in order to afford housing/childcare etc.

I do find it outrageous that Jeff Bezos is a billionaire but we the tax payers are expected to basically subsidise amazon workers that can't survive on their shitty wages.

That’s not Bezos’s fault though is it? He is paying at or above minimum wage. The problems are:

Endless governments have implemented policies to ramp up the prices of housing without building social housing.

We don’t have state run utilities and our utilities infrastructure is dire so utilities bills are high.

Underfunded councils selling off children’s homes and specialist schools and then having to pay extortionate amounts to private providers meaning massive costs to councils.

Endless governments not wanting to face up to unaffordable costs such as social care (remember when Theresa May tried this) public sector pensions timebomb, pensions triple lock, unrealistic welfare claims etc.

Massive costs the government is doing nothing to address makes this an expensive country to live in. It’s the government’s fault (and the fault of those who vote for parties that refuse to face up to the hard truths, like the crazy Greens!), not Bezos.