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Who are people who find Christmas offensive

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Blopi · 22/11/2025 06:43

It really boils my piss when organisations curtail Christmas stuff as it may offend people.

Who are these people who find Christmas offensive? In my life I have worked and met people from various religions, cultures and countries. NOT one found Christmas and things that go with it. I didn’t work with Jehovah Witnesses but they don’t get offended. Most said they decorated their homes, wore Xmas jumpers and ate food which was suitable or tailored to their religion. Those who didn’t decorate their homes love seeing trees lit up.

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dynamiccactus · 22/11/2025 11:30

Luxio · 22/11/2025 11:28

So once again this thread goes exactly as I and others predicted. Almost 400 posts and not one concrete example of banning Christmas to be found. Surprise, surprise.

I don't think it actually does happen now, does it? But before we had "woke", we have "politically correct" and some councils thought Christmas was non-inclusive and used words like Winterval.

Although "happy holidays" is gradually gaining traction here. Not sure why. I don't like it because lots of people don't go on holiday or even get that much time off work. Season's greetings is ok I guess.

Luxio · 22/11/2025 11:31

dynamiccactus · 22/11/2025 11:30

I don't think it actually does happen now, does it? But before we had "woke", we have "politically correct" and some councils thought Christmas was non-inclusive and used words like Winterval.

Although "happy holidays" is gradually gaining traction here. Not sure why. I don't like it because lots of people don't go on holiday or even get that much time off work. Season's greetings is ok I guess.

It's never happened.

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 11:34

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 11:21

I mean, this is a stupid tangent that has nothing to do with anyone banning anything.

There will be plenty of councils of all political hues who can no longer fund Christmas lights when 10 or 20 years ago they could.

Why- we are talking about facts. The parish in question can't afford to put up the lights they paying rent on because the Reform council says they must first take down the flags. I'm sure lots of Councils would say the same. But there are loads of people here insisting left wing people have banned Christmas promotion with absolutely no evidence so why not discuss the one well documented council without Christmas lights?
I'd also add that the people who will currently be giving out Christmas survival kits to the vulnerable people reform supporters claim get no support will likely be the same staff reform want to get rid of under their anti-social diversity drives at the end of the financial year. Sorry to be pointing that out too.

KilliMonjaro · 22/11/2025 11:34

PollyBell · 22/11/2025 06:45

Has anyone actually ever been offended or is it just people bleating about it?

Exactly 🙄

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/11/2025 11:34

Happy holidays refers to the bank holidays you get off work surely, not literally going on holiday.

Also as said before it is an American phrase as it encompasses Thanksgiving and Christmas (and Hannukah in areas with large Jewish populations) as a time of year when many Americans will take time off to go and see family.

DustlandFairytaleBeginning · 22/11/2025 11:35

Nobody gets offended except for Reform voters as they want you to believe we are racially divided and sow division to feed into their narrative we are somehow culturally under attack. It's smoke and mirrors. The fact you are even talking about it shows they are getting to you. The idea that the wording on one Christmas tree shows they are somehow scared to say Christmas when the adverts tagline is literally 'that's what makes Christmas' at the moment! I feel like critical thinking is sadly at an all time low.

GagMeWithASpoon · 22/11/2025 11:40

Parsleyforme · 22/11/2025 11:30

I work in marketing and we use a lot of synonyms such as the holidays, winter season, festive season etc. It’s not to avoid offending people of other religions, it’s because

  1. Christmas now starts in October but that’s very early so we can span the whole of that time if we call it winter/festive time.
  2. There are only so many times you can use the word Christmas in an email or on a website without it being too much.
  3. We don’t have to rewrite everything on the 27th Dec. Christmas is over but winter/the holidays aren’t.
  4. We can sell products at other times of the year if they don’t specifically mention Christmas.
  5. We can avoid offending some Christians who still see Christmas as a religious holiday and the birth of Jesus Christ, rather than the inclusive (commercial) occasion that people of many religions celebrate by buying things like OTT decorations and novelty gifts despite not believing in/caring about Jesus.

Christmas is so far removed from its religious roots that it actually has become just a time of year rather than a religious holiday.
At this point, is it much different to putting up loads of lights and saying you’re celebrating Divali even though you have no interest in Hinduism? I haven’t asked any Hindus if they’d be offended, but surely “Festival of Lights” would be a better choice of name, rather than pretending you’re celebrating a religious Hindu festival when you’re actually just picking and choosing the fun bits you like.

Oh go away with your facts and reasons. Grin

LlynTegid · 22/11/2025 11:40

I doubt many are offended at all.

Recognising that a significant number of people in the UK are not Christian should be done by supporting those of other faiths having celebrations or commemorations.

MurdoMunro · 22/11/2025 11:41

As my thoroughly church going Irish granny used to say ‘ah sure it’s a load of auld bollocks Murdo, will you have some soda bread now’

GagMeWithASpoon · 22/11/2025 11:42

CatchyShyCat · 22/11/2025 11:30

How is this racism? Is there a specific skin colour that doesn’t do Christmas? The whole debate is about ‘woke’ and pandering to a tiny minority of people, who probably aren’t even from ethnic minority backgrounds.

Not saying I agree with the debate, I don't really care what these things are called. Tesco is draping with Christmas stuff, it being called an evergreen tree on a tiny placard doesn’t change anything.

Well, the article OP posted mentioned muslims. An assumption, not a fact , but they still ran with it. Of course, you could be pedantic and say that muslim is not a race , but islamophobia isn’t that much better either , is it?

5128gap · 22/11/2025 11:42

CatchyShyCat · 22/11/2025 11:30

How is this racism? Is there a specific skin colour that doesn’t do Christmas? The whole debate is about ‘woke’ and pandering to a tiny minority of people, who probably aren’t even from ethnic minority backgrounds.

Not saying I agree with the debate, I don't really care what these things are called. Tesco is draping with Christmas stuff, it being called an evergreen tree on a tiny placard doesn’t change anything.

The only people talking about banning Christmas are those spreading rumours that other people want to ban it.
They are doing this as a part of a smear campaign against 'the left', lying that 'woke PC lefties are pandering to minorities' without a shred of evidence of anyone saying "let's ban Christmas because its offensive". This is designed to alienate people from left wing policies in general.
They are also doing it in an attempt to stir up mistrust and hostility against people who are not white British, specifically in this case targeting those of other faiths, faiths predominantly held by people who are not white, by perpetuating the idea that aided and abetted by this mythical 'left' they seek to strip us of everything we hold dear.
This is racism as its framing people who are not white British as an invading force intent on changing our society for the worse.

GagMeWithASpoon · 22/11/2025 11:44

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/11/2025 11:29

I think the last person to ban Christmas in Britain was Oliver Cromwell. Bloody.woke Puritans.

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The irony of that FACT , makes me smile every time.Grin

Friendlyfart · 22/11/2025 11:45

We’re Jewish and have a version of Christmas Day w the family - turkey lunch and Xmas crackers. Don’t have a tree though or decorate. And presents for Chanukah, not Christmas.
Def not offended by it, I live a Carol or two as well!

Twirlyhockey · 22/11/2025 11:49

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 09:56

Exactly this! It is a financial decision to stretch out the season and be able to run events either side of Christmas.
The descriptors such as iced fruit cake are for people who do/do not like icing- the shop wants to make money and still have a huge amount of Christmas branded items.
The countdown calender is to appeal to the ( huge amount of) people who no longer use or understand the term "advent" and do not use an advent calendar. It is the general public losing these traditions- not the "woke".
And as I mentioned earlier the only actual documented council not having Christmas lights this year is a reform council.

Seasons greetings all! (As seen on Christmas cards in the renown woke Victorian era🙄).

Edited

This is spot on.

As ever its capitalism which destroys our communities. Capitalism which creates division in order to segment us into markets or push our behaviour into predictable consumer patterns.

And a lack of education. Can quite believe no illiterate fucker knows what Advent is. It's not their fault, their school was shite.

GuyForksAndKnives · 22/11/2025 11:52

Twirlyhockey · 22/11/2025 11:49

This is spot on.

As ever its capitalism which destroys our communities. Capitalism which creates division in order to segment us into markets or push our behaviour into predictable consumer patterns.

And a lack of education. Can quite believe no illiterate fucker knows what Advent is. It's not their fault, their school was shite.

I've seen Halloween advent calendars. They're clearly a countdown to an event. I've not yet seen an Easter one but it wouldn't surprise me if chocolate companies didn't create one stuffed with mini eggs.

Next weekend I am going to an advent service and I do embrace advent myself.

GuyForksAndKnives · 22/11/2025 11:55

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/11/2025 11:29

I think the last person to ban Christmas in Britain was Oliver Cromwell. Bloody.woke Puritans.

Edited

I thought it was Alan Rickman

Ginmonkeyagain · 22/11/2025 11:55

I am digging around for my scant church knowledge here, but isn't advent meant to be a sombre, reflective period in Christianity?

BMW6 · 22/11/2025 11:57

So obviously the OP started this thread having NO evidence to support her contention, just a racist and pathetic attempt at shit stirring.

Well you've shown yourself up. You should be embarrassed but I doubt you have that Grace.

FixTheBone · 22/11/2025 11:58

PollyBell · 22/11/2025 06:45

Has anyone actually ever been offended or is it just people bleating about it?

Has anyone actually curtailed anything, or is it something that might happen, but never did, but the racists keep going on that it might?

I live in Bradford , one of the most ethically and religiously diverse cities in the country. All 4 of my kids schools have Christmas fairs, concerts, dinners. The streets have Christmas decorations, the shopping centre and supermarkets have Christmas decorations, events and music....

I swear that Christmas being cancelled is a hate stirring myth.

ilovesooty · 22/11/2025 12:02

FixTheBone · 22/11/2025 11:58

Has anyone actually curtailed anything, or is it something that might happen, but never did, but the racists keep going on that it might?

I live in Bradford , one of the most ethically and religiously diverse cities in the country. All 4 of my kids schools have Christmas fairs, concerts, dinners. The streets have Christmas decorations, the shopping centre and supermarkets have Christmas decorations, events and music....

I swear that Christmas being cancelled is a hate stirring myth.

I live in Bradford too and I agree with you.

HPFA · 22/11/2025 12:06

Delphiniumandlupins · 22/11/2025 11:25

My local Tesco actually stock a wide range of vegetables in December. Any sensible person would be eating carrots and brussel sprouts! Possibly parsnips and red cabbage but nobody needs broccoli etc. My granny never ate broccoli in December.

All meats other than turkey or goose should also be removed.

Vegetarians can be allowed their nut roasts but meat eaters have no excuse for eating anything other than those two.

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 12:11

@CatchyShyCat

How is this racism? Is there a specific skin colour that doesn’t do Christmas? The whole debate is about ‘woke’ and pandering to a tiny minority of people, who probably aren’t even from ethnic minority backgrounds.

I think it’s disingenuous to claim there’s no racist element here. The right-wing media outrage over imagined “cultural appropriation” of supposedly British traditions is clearly manufactured. The same outlets that throw around the word “woke” are driving it, and people with similar views are buying into it.

Four pages in and there’s still no evidence that the word “Christmas” has ever been banned. To include Christmas within a broader “winter” theme - especially while still using the word Christmas elsewhere - isn’t banning it or replacing it.

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 12:14

@GuyForksAndKnives

I've seen Halloween advent calendars. They're clearly a countdown to an event. I've not yet seen an Easter one but it wouldn't surprise me if chocolate companies didn't create one stuffed with mini eggs.

Isn't that Lent?

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 12:14

GuyForksAndKnives · 22/11/2025 11:55

I thought it was Alan Rickman

😂

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 12:16

I don't know @BMW6 , just looking back over this thread there are quite a few believers of this baloney

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