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Who are people who find Christmas offensive

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Blopi · 22/11/2025 06:43

It really boils my piss when organisations curtail Christmas stuff as it may offend people.

Who are these people who find Christmas offensive? In my life I have worked and met people from various religions, cultures and countries. NOT one found Christmas and things that go with it. I didn’t work with Jehovah Witnesses but they don’t get offended. Most said they decorated their homes, wore Xmas jumpers and ate food which was suitable or tailored to their religion. Those who didn’t decorate their homes love seeing trees lit up.

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MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 10:51

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 22/11/2025 10:33

That's embarrassing for those posters, but it's also a really interesting phenomenon.

The market in question is very clearly called a Christmas Market, but those posters had somehow convinced themselves otherwise. Is this because they made incorrect assumptions? Because they have been consuming a whole load of misinformation online? Some other reason?

Where are people getting these ideas from?

They choose to believe it based on either a deliberate or ignorant understanding of real events from several years ago.

A city council (might have been Birmingham or Leicester) decided to brand all of their seasonal event activities across a three-month period that year including the Diwali fireworks, Eid celebrations, the Christmas Market, the Christmas Carol service, the New Year countdown etc, as Winterval.

Christmas was not cancelled. Christmas events were not cancelled. Christmas events were not rebranded. The council just invented a new term to cover their winter activity.

No-one was "offended" except the right-wing press who deliberately misrepresented what had happened.

Rosscameasdoody · 22/11/2025 10:52

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 10:44

It's been explained to you repeatedly now. The markets either run after Christmas so no Christmas branding, or they ARE actually called Christmas Markets. In addition people are getting bored of traditional Christmas Markets which causes issues when marketing ones that offer more than hotdogs pretzels wooden ornaments.etc..

Edited

Don’t need that explaining to me thanks. Understand it perfectly and I’m not one of the Christmas is banned conspiracy theorists. The reply was part of a conversation string, and a general observation that the word Christmas doesn’t appear in the advertising of the event, but the word ‘Merry’- associated with Christmas - does.

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 10:53

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 10:48

@Blopi

It's generally white, British born, (and raised,) atheist, social justice warriors who are 'offended' by Christmas. I have yet to meet anyone of any other culture or religion who is offended by Christmas.

In the market town several miles from my village, the post office is run by an Indian family, several restaurants and takeways are run by Pakistani, Turkish, Syrian, and Chinese families, and some of the shops and cafes etc, are run by Indian and Polish people. All of them have Christmas decorations up in their shop/restaurant, including a Christmas tree, and MERRY CHRISTMAS signs.

They all love it, and they celebrate it along with everyone... It baffles me that some councils ban Christmas signs and suchlike, because of a few woke, social justice warriors getting offended on behalf of someone else.

Name a council that has banned Christmas signs and suchlike.

You can't.

There aren't any

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 10:55

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 10:53

Name a council that has banned Christmas signs and suchlike.

You can't.

There aren't any

Actually there is one-Kent, under Reform. No Christmas lights in Harrietsham as a result of Reform action and policy.

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 10:55

Rosscameasdoody · 22/11/2025 10:36

Twinkling fairy lights. Is that better ?

Again, are sparkling twinkly lights only associated with Christmas?

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 10:56

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 10:51

The evidence shows that it is only reform Councils without Christmas lights this year. Actual evidence from one of the Council s themselves. The rest is made up.

Edited

What 'evidence?' Please do show us.

If you do show evidence of one, (the one where YOU live probably,) I am sure evidence of left wing councils banning Christmas signs can be provided!

Rosscameasdoody · 22/11/2025 10:56

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 10:48

@Blopi

It's generally white, British born, (and raised,) atheist, social justice warriors who are 'offended' by Christmas. I have yet to meet anyone of any other culture or religion who is offended by Christmas.

In the market town several miles from my village, the post office is run by an Indian family, several restaurants and takeways are run by Pakistani, Turkish, Syrian, and Chinese families, and some of the shops and cafes etc, are run by Indian and Polish people. All of them have Christmas decorations up in their shop/restaurant, including a Christmas tree, and MERRY CHRISTMAS signs.

They all love it, and they celebrate it along with everyone... It baffles me that some councils ban Christmas signs and suchlike, because of a few woke, social justice warriors getting offended on behalf of someone else.

This. We live in a high immigration area and this is also our experience.

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 10:56

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 10:55

Actually there is one-Kent, under Reform. No Christmas lights in Harrietsham as a result of Reform action and policy.

How is that a ban?

ilovesooty · 22/11/2025 10:56

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 10:51

The evidence shows that it is only reform Councils without Christmas lights this year. Actual evidence from one of the Council s themselves. The rest is made up.

Edited

In some cases it's apparently because of the flags, which they can't afford to remove.

Smilesinthesunshine · 22/11/2025 10:57

bigboykitty · 22/11/2025 10:38

That's kind of how it works on forums. If people post made up nonsense, you can call them out. See the rest of this thread

Well not really, it certainly doesn't have to mean that. Immediately jumping on and saying not this shite again, comes across as just being up for a fight. Our village Facebook group used to be like that, until someone pointed out that you can just scroll on by, now they have all calmed down a bit.
BTW I don't care for this thread either way, as a previous poster pointed out both sides are wrong.

bigboykitty · 22/11/2025 10:58

ilovesooty · 22/11/2025 10:56

In some cases it's apparently because of the flags, which they can't afford to remove.

Can't they secure some more Russian bung money to get rid of the flags and put up the Christmas lights?

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 10:59

WorriedRelative · 22/11/2025 10:42

Absolutely! All these people bemoaning the loss of Christmas are usually the worst for not understanding advent or the twelve days of Christmas. They probably have a fairy on their tree too.

In medieval and Tudor times Christmas started on 1st November (All Soul's Day) and ended on 2nd February (Candlemas Eve) with many feasts celebrated in between.

Let's not go back to that!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/11/2025 10:59

IMO it’s a minority of the hand-wringing, uber-PC brigade, who like to imagine that other faiths find Christmas or any mention of it, offensive. I lived for many years in Muslim Oman, where no objection was ever made to e.g. 🎄decorations or festivities in the hotels, and the young adults I used to teach, would tell me that they enjoyed seeing the lights and decorations.

On one memorable occasion, the Royal Oman Police lent a ceremonial camel so that Father Christmas could arrive at the English Speaking School in style! He told the children that he’d left his reindeer at the airport, because they didn’t like the sand. 😂

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 11:00

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 10:56

What 'evidence?' Please do show us.

If you do show evidence of one, (the one where YOU live probably,) I am sure evidence of left wing councils banning Christmas signs can be provided!

Edited

No, there is no evidence of any councils banning Christmas signs. It's a myth!

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 11:00

It's not made up nonsense either. If they are being honest, everyone alive in this country, knows of at least 3 or 4 councils who have banned Christmas signs, and schools that have nonsensical 'plays' in mid December, that don't include the word 'Christmas,' or have anything to do with the Nativity.

CharlotteCChapel · 22/11/2025 11:00

My son calls people like thst professionally offended. It's never that they're offended but they think someone else may be.

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 11:01

Rosscameasdoody · 22/11/2025 10:52

Don’t need that explaining to me thanks. Understand it perfectly and I’m not one of the Christmas is banned conspiracy theorists. The reply was part of a conversation string, and a general observation that the word Christmas doesn’t appear in the advertising of the event, but the word ‘Merry’- associated with Christmas - does.

It still seems to fit the three reasons I, and others gave. Merry is a multi-use word and the market may not want to rigidly align itself to the traditional commercial Christmas market offer as non bus trip people don't find those markets so appealing.

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 11:03

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/11/2025 10:59

IMO it’s a minority of the hand-wringing, uber-PC brigade, who like to imagine that other faiths find Christmas or any mention of it, offensive. I lived for many years in Muslim Oman, where no objection was ever made to e.g. 🎄decorations or festivities in the hotels, and the young adults I used to teach, would tell me that they enjoyed seeing the lights and decorations.

On one memorable occasion, the Royal Oman Police lent a ceremonial camel so that Father Christmas could arrive at the English Speaking School in style! He told the children that he’d left his reindeer at the airport, because they didn’t like the sand. 😂

Speaking as a fully paid-up member of the hand-wringing uber-PC brigade, I'd love you to show any examples of one of our number stating that other faiths find Christmas, or any mention of it, offensive.

I bet you can't.

Purplebunnie · 22/11/2025 11:04

https://www.seas.org.uk/winter-fair/

Yes it's not actually Christmas so fair enough to call it something else but it's not Winter either so it is in fact an Autumn fair, but that wouldn't draw the crowds in would it once past Bonfire Night

And no I didn't go looking for something, DH was told about a Christmas Market and we thought we'd go tomorrow so I was checking the gate price

I don't believe those of other faiths have any issues whatsoever but here is an example that might get some people riled up

Winter Fair - South of England Showground - SEAS

Step inside our giant snow globe and experience a world of festive fun at the Winter Fair. Book your tickets today.

https://www.seas.org.uk/winter-fair/

MasterBeth · 22/11/2025 11:05

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 11:00

It's not made up nonsense either. If they are being honest, everyone alive in this country, knows of at least 3 or 4 councils who have banned Christmas signs, and schools that have nonsensical 'plays' in mid December, that don't include the word 'Christmas,' or have anything to do with the Nativity.

Edited

Name just one of these councils.

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 11:05

@Smilesinthesunshine

as a previous poster pointed out both sides are wrong

Every time someone posts evidence it's shot down in flames and shown to be incorrect. Previous poster is wrong.

GagMeWithASpoon · 22/11/2025 11:06

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 11:00

It's not made up nonsense either. If they are being honest, everyone alive in this country, knows of at least 3 or 4 councils who have banned Christmas signs, and schools that have nonsensical 'plays' in mid December, that don't include the word 'Christmas,' or have anything to do with the Nativity.

Edited

We had one of those plays last year. The person who normally does the plays was off on long term sick , so the person covering picked a random thing off BBC because it came with everything needed , it was free, was suitable for the number of children and it kept the “tradition “ of musical plays. The main thought behind it was “easy, quick, doesn’t add to my stupidly high already workload”.

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 11:06

ilovesooty · 22/11/2025 10:56

In some cases it's apparently because of the flags, which they can't afford to remove.

Yep it is. So far no one has been able to name a Council who has actually banned Christmas lights, but the actions of a Reform council means at least one Parish won't have them (although they are still paying for them).
So far, based on evidence:
Christmas lights stopped by the woke=0
Christmas lights stopped by Reform = 1

Blizzardofleaves · 22/11/2025 11:07

There are some that take exception to it op, and I have heard them first hand, as they claim that the U.K. isn’t Christian any longer and Christmas shouldn’t be more important/bigger than other religious festivals.

I also know of people triggered by Christmas and certain songs due to childhood trauma.

We will always enjoy a huge Christmas here as culturally it’s the highlight of the winter for British society. Not everyone has to join in.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/11/2025 11:08

Ivelostmyglasses · 22/11/2025 10:55

Actually there is one-Kent, under Reform. No Christmas lights in Harrietsham as a result of Reform action and policy.

It’s not a ban. It just doesn’t have any money.

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