CDC changes stance on vaccine autism link. AIBU to be furious and appalled?

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I just saw this on another thread so had a look online. It’s ridiculous, irresponsible, downright dangerous and absolutely not based on science.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/11/20/nx-s1-5615040/cdc-rfk-childhood-vaccines-autism

😖 Trumpism!

Why is it impossible that, in some children, vaccines could trigger or switch on genes responsible for Autism? I am not saying vaccines = autism, but is it not possible that in some children already predisposed to Autism, the genes could be ‘turned on’ or Autism symptoms worsened by the vaccine?

There are many parents who report an overnight dramatic change in their infants directly after their child had a vaccine. I myself had convulsions after both my MMRs (the same night) and now have diagnosed epilepsy and ADHD. It says on my medical notes that the MMR caused febrile convulsions. Is that not a possible link?

No smoke without fire

Because its a very well studied theory and no link has been found.

Its not that it's an impossible theory, it's that research demonstrates it's untrue

It makes me angry that so many PoC are considered anti-vaxxers but no one talks about the giant anti-science.movement in the U.S.

febrile convulsions are seizures cause by increased body temp. There will be science behind the link between the MMR (and likely other jabs) which can cause a temporary fever that could then lead to the convictions.
Absolutely no studies have shown a link with autism. And there have been many. The age thing is a red herring. Correlation is not causation. You could say autism is caused by starting pre-school. Or by a specific baby tooth emerging.

Thankfully scientists look a bit deeper than this.

Personally I think vaccines should be made compulsory for school admissions in the UK, unless medically exempted
We are going to have a wave of measles and easily preventable diseases with the level of stupid out there.

"Approximately one in two surveyed parents of autistic children believe vaccines played a role in their child's autism, often pointing to the vaccines their child received in the first six months of life (Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (DTaP), Hepatitis B (HepB), Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib), Poliovirus, inactivated (IPV), and Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV)) and one given at or after the first year of life (Measles, mumps, rubella (MMR)). This connection has not been properly and thoroughly studied by the scientific community."

Believe..... being the important word. With all the misinformation on vaccines surely more and more might believe vaccines played a role. Doesn't make it a fact though.

That's good. What's their explanation for the increasing numbers?

I would hazard a guess that’s it’s the raging metabolic syndrome that the majority of us have. Mitochondrial dysfunction improves vastly on a low carb diet and autism and ADHD symptoms also improve dramatically.

However it’s almost all anecdotal or animal studies because there is no money in telling people to eat fat and protein for health.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10431618/
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10431618/

Andrew Wakefield is a cunt and should be prosecuted for pushing this lie. A lie that has caused a massive drop in vaccine take up. And will cause deaths.

Sorry, I should have given his full medical title. "Andrew Wakefield"

There is no evidence there is increasing numbers of people with autism, just that there's increasing numbers of people getting a diagnosis of autism, partly because it's only been recognised fairly recently and before that they just used to describe autistic people as a bit odd or chain them to a radiator. Hope that helps.

Older dads surely play a part?

Better diagnosis plus recognition that autism encompasses a broader spectrum of behaviours than previously recognised and so more people are being included.

Were you not aware of this?

It doesn’t matter what people believe. The research is out there. This has been studied over and over. It’s complex as is medicine and genetics etc. But vaccines never come out as a cause in research apart from wakefields dodgy shit. America is going down a very dangerous anti science path. I follow many health and science focused people who are struggling to battle the misinformation .

The release by the CDC has been condemned by many large medical/health/scientific organisations already.

So in summary, "nothing to see here"?

I used to work in schools and would totally disagree with you on that.

Because there's no evidence at all to support that theory? My dd1 has autism, she was diagnosed at 8. Looking back the signs were there from the day she was born. DD2 doesn't have autism. They both had the MMR (and the booster). Same genes, different outcome.

Could not agree more 😂

I am aware of that argument and disagree with it

There is more diagnosis in the US because they can sell unproven ‘therapies’ - just as there was a higher rate of schizophrenia diagnosis in the US in the 1960s and 1970s. It is genetic and has nothing to do with vaccines.

The extraordinary use of screens in children, particularly in under 5s is undoubtedly a link. I work in early years.

You "used to work in schools" so what?

So you noticed when the conservative government stopped funding places at special schools and forced autistic children into mainstream education where they struggled to cope and assumed that those children just didn't exist before?

Pretty much all that comes out of Trump and his cronies is 'smoke'. Well, hot air anyway.

Are you able to explain the reasons why you disagree?