To say that women look bloody weird ….

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.. when the only part of their face that moves is their mouth and eyes.

And don’t get me started on the massive fish lips.

Never see any naturally beautiful young women on TV these days. Such a shame

I met a woman at the park and she genuinely frightened me. She looked like a corpse and I got uncanny valley vibes. She was nice and clearly took pride in her appearance but she was scary to look at for me.

Um, what are you doing exactly?

You obviously have a massive amount to spend on yourself, too!

My teeth quirks were very unattractive - think Jeremy Kyle on a bad day so I had a complex about it and fixed it after seeing my mother and sister smile and cover their mouth and realising I did the same thing. Slight quirks are appealing, some aren't and I think a dentist would look at you like you had two heads if you asked them to leave a little bit of crookedness. I'm extremely glad I had access to that "tweak" and sad that my mother never saw a viable route to smiling freely infront of people. My bite was fully functional, just unattractive.

I think other work is the same - feeling beautiful is a privilege and I think you should grab it with both hands if that's what you want regardless of how it affects beauty standards or if some people find the look unattractive. You have one round on this planet and should do it how you want to do it - if you want to look like a pornbot alien as someone else described it then go for it. I love having work done because I was unattractive growing up and (as bad as it is to say) so were most women in my family and I saw how low their self esteem was due to it.

I don't use social media and I'm not around people with alot of work so don't feel a pressure to perform - the look of having work grew on me from an eccentric aunt who always had expensive handbags and a very "done" look and thinking of how fun and glamorous she looked. I find it fun and glamorous, I don't want to claw my skin off when my botox wears off or anything. Though I do love an interesting face, especially large noses and sunspots - it's just not for me.

It’s worrying that very young women and men with perfectly healthy natural teeth think it’s an improvement to had them veneered or crowned. They’ll need doing again in the future, which is to the detriment of their teeth. Perfectly even, luminous teeth don’t look good, they look weird and false. Whitening and / or straightening would improve normal healthy teeth if necessary without resorting to drastic, permanent measures which will surely be regretted in years to come

I think you’ll find they do

Never mind

No they dont- at every social occasion I have ever been to- weddings, parties, birthdays, events, black tie evenings, Christmas - all offered free alcohol. Alcohol is encouraged in our society as a social lubricant, it's advertised everywhere- wine o'clock and mummy's wine etc etc As a non drinker I have even been told to "stop being so boring and drink up- surely you can have just one!" though!

I have never gone to a social event and been offered free botox 🤪 nor have I been called boring for not getting a boob job!

In my experience if is seldom naturally beautiful women that have these procedures, I don’t mean celebs, but in the real world. Maybe a touch of Botox or some teeth fixing if crooked,

It is predominantly done by arguably average looking women, to enhance looks rather than maintain them.

the naturally beautiful or attractive women I know don’t do it, but the more mainstream average looking women do. The naturally beautiful ones i guess know they don’t need it, so don’t, the less attractive think they do, so do, the naturally attractive tend more to working out, make up, hair etc, to enhance what they were born with,

the women on the lower end of the attractive scale also tend not to do it. It’s the clump in the middle of the bell curve who are at it,

As someone who needs to have my front teeth built back up, due to chipping them quite badly years ago, I'd never choose to get this sort of work done if it wasn't necessary. Mine look fine and are quite sturdy, but every 5 years or so I can guarantee one will chip a bit.

Yep, maybe that's what you should have done. You're not being clever or funny.

You may have that belief but so many women don’t have that belief about themselves, that's the issue.

Of course - but it was a great investment. Even from a very cynical financial perspective.

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It doesn’t help that the online social media world rewards & praises ‘beauty’ as such accomplishment.

78% on this thread agree that women with faces where only the eyes and the mouth move look bloody weird. I don’t really think that is a controversial point of view.

I don’t criticise individuals for what they do to their faces- their face, their choice. I do, however, feel it’s a real shame that so many women feel they have to alter their physical appearance in a way that has long lasting effects and carries not insignificant risk. I don’t feel comfortable with the fact that so many women look at a completely normal, even beautiful face and feel so dissatisfied with it that they pay money to inject toxins and fillers in to it in an effort to reach an unattainable ideal. I think the fact that society still attaches so much value to the appearance of a woman’s face is quite depressing. I, myself, recognise that at times I HATE aspects of my healthy, strong, capable body because of the way it looks and I’m angry that despite knowing that is illogical and is entirely a consequence of a patriarchal society that controls and commodifies women, it is so deeply ingrained that I cannot ignore it. Don’t hate the players, hate the game.

It’s extraordinary, in this visual age, the power that ‘beauty’ confers. You can have an unimaginable life if you play your cards right.

In what way? You look and feel better?
You ‘re more desirable, employable?

Well said. It's the pressure that so many people, not just women, who feel that they have to conform to some kind of uniform look that is so depressing, and the fact that everyone is a clone of everyone else.

I find some of the defensive posts on here quite depressing.

I admit that I really dislike the trout pout and filler look and think it does nothing to enhance anyone's looks, be they male or female.

If it was done in a more subtle way then it wouldn't be noticeable and I don't blame anyone who wants to enhance the way they look. After all, I do wear make up.

I recall watching a couple of episodes of vacuous airheads posing Love Island with DD last year. One of the women was the same age as DD (24) and looked about 20 years older than her from all the work she had had done. Her face had so much filler that she couldn't even close her mouth. It is this kind of work that I really don't understand. And it really can't be healthy.

I cannot imagine the kind of life that you refer to but I do know that there are women who are not considered beautiful who are interesting, curious and confident who lead extraordinary lives.

You don't have to defend your point @GoingbackwardsForwards You're not wrong.

@RampantIvy 100% agree with your post. The younger women (like 18 to 23/24 ish) who have these things done to their face look a clear decade and a half older than their age, even in their early 20s or younger.

I dread to think what they will look like in 15-20 years! 😖

I think women and men should do exactly what they want to do with their faces. And if they want to be bigger or slimmer that’s ok too. While I wouldn’t do anything to my face lol far from perfect I’m very happy with my face and body and at 68 years old I have confidence and happy to be alive. And grateful for waking up everyday too many people are worried about what others think of them so want to join the rest of the crowd. As the song goes you are beautiful don’t bring me down today. Christina agulara

Ahhhh this is lovely that your life and feelings of self worth have turned around.

I agreed with OP but now I agree with you too. Dilemma!!!

I think the problem as I see it is that it's becoming so normal to I next your face that it looks like a statement if you don't.

I don't but I also have no hangups about my appearance. I don't mean I'm exceptionally goodlooking to the general public, I mean I feel happy with my appearance.