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To have completely misunderstood the meaning of some sayings?

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KermitTheToad · 18/11/2025 20:53

I only found out today that the term Social Butterfly refers to someone who is outgoing and loves social events. I thought it meant you didn't like social events, as in you would fly away and avoid them. I also until recently thought that a Spendthrift is somebody who is frugal in their spending. I assumed that as thrifty meant not being wasteful, that Spendthrift meant being careful in what you spent.
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Mothership4two · 19/11/2025 08:33

I've only ever heard "it's all downhill from here" used as a negative @LilyCanna

Every day is a school day

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 19/11/2025 08:33

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 18/11/2025 22:21

I don't understand this either.

It means you don't / can't know if the thing has worked / is good until the very end, surely?!

So you don't know if the pudding is any good until you eat it - there's no way to tell before that.

Yes and it drives me nuts when people say "the proof is in the pudding" because what!? Is this a reference to a Poirot I don't know, where the vital clue has ended up in some kind of dessert?

Don't get me started on not comdemning a whole group because " it's just a few bad apples". The saying is "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel" - meaning that yes, you must indeed chuck the whole lot because they are ALL contaminated.* *

Twinklewonderkins · 19/11/2025 08:37

@Butteredtoast55 I work in healthcare and a colleague actually wrote “rest bite’ in a communication about a patient fairly recently.

Member984815 · 19/11/2025 08:38

soupyspoon · 18/11/2025 21:14

No it doesnt. It means a dark haired man.

Its a dark haired man regardless of race, think Tom selleck he's tall dark and handsome 💋

TroysMammy · 19/11/2025 08:38

Reading property details I was delighted to see some houses had plant rooms. How lovely I thought a room just for house plants, like a craft room for crafts. Nope it's where your heating boiler is housed. A bit like this.

To have completely misunderstood the meaning of some sayings?
Mothership4two · 19/11/2025 08:39

You're right @CryMyEyesViolet , in my dictionary it lists both meanings earthquake start point and the central point of something

IDontHateRainbows · 19/11/2025 08:39

I still dont know what 'heavy plant crossing ' means....

Member984815 · 19/11/2025 08:40

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 19/11/2025 08:33

Yes and it drives me nuts when people say "the proof is in the pudding" because what!? Is this a reference to a Poirot I don't know, where the vital clue has ended up in some kind of dessert?

Don't get me started on not comdemning a whole group because " it's just a few bad apples". The saying is "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel" - meaning that yes, you must indeed chuck the whole lot because they are ALL contaminated.* *

I blame donny osmonds song with one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch for this . I grow apples and can confirm one bad apple will rot the rest

Westly · 19/11/2025 08:41

JKFan · 19/11/2025 07:36

I sympathise. Years ago I sat the Institute of Linguists diploma in German. One exam was about Germany itself. It could be on absolutely anything - politics, economy, culture, history etc. You had to be prepared for anything. From memory there were ten essay questions two to be answered in English and one in German. I was already struggling because my tutor had disappeared and I’d had to prepare solo. When I looked at the questions there were some I knew nothing about, so I had to answer one about the German hegemony. It was at that point that I realised my difficulty wasn’t just my level of German, but my level of English. Hegemony was a word I had come across every so often and just glided over without ever stopping to check what it meant. I’m fairly certain my level of English contributed to my failing that paper, which was annoying as I had a distinction in other papers. As I was only doing it for interest and couldn’t find anyone to teach me I gave up on trying again.

I’ve never heard of the word hegemony before - I’ve just had to look it up. That sounds like a very hard exam indeed - sorry you couldn’t get the support 💐

HideousKinky · 19/11/2025 08:45

78e22387FFGH · 18/11/2025 21:44

A leotard giving you a wedgie 😂

It actually is another one from the Bible - when Queen Esther's cousin Mordecai had an enemy who made a huge stake to hang him on, and ended up being hung on it himself

"Hoist by your own petard" is from Hamlet

Clawdy · 19/11/2025 08:47

A friend always said if people were giggling "Oh, they're in cahoots! " or "Sue was in cahoots when I told her that funny story! "

Leavesfalling · 19/11/2025 08:48

Clawdy · 19/11/2025 08:47

A friend always said if people were giggling "Oh, they're in cahoots! " or "Sue was in cahoots when I told her that funny story! "

Oh I love it! I think that actually works quite well!! 🤣

housethatbuiltme · 19/11/2025 08:52

A social butterfly is the big colorful attention stealing person in the room, its the same as 'peacocking' both phrases refer to how noticeable the creatures are for their markings in relation to how noticeable the person is in the gathering.

I have never heard the phrase Spendthrift, actually wouldn't know what it meant.

I still think 'tender hooks' makes sense, like the S shape hooks butchers hang meet on to tenderize it (which are now very popular in homes now for hanging things, we have several on our clothes rail so we dont have to faff with hangers), where as whose ever heard of, or used the very outdated item of a 'tenterhook'. Both do essentially a very similar job of hanging and stretching things (just one uses gravity). I would be much more scared of being hung on a butcher 'tender hook' than on a wood frame to stop washed material shrinking.

HyggeTygge · 19/11/2025 08:53

Don't get me started on not comdemning a whole group because " it's just a few bad apples". The saying is "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel" - meaning that yes, you must indeed chuck the whole lot because they are ALL contaminated.

I'm with you on this @PuggyPuggyPuggy

Purplecatshopaholic · 19/11/2025 08:55

verybighouseinthecountry · 18/11/2025 22:40

Not a saying but I remember years ago on a misheard song thread a poster thought Jesus was the Lord of the Dance Settee. I can never hear that hymn without laughing!

Actually lol’ed at this and now I so want a dance settee in my house!

Leavesfalling · 19/11/2025 08:55

housethatbuiltme · 19/11/2025 08:52

A social butterfly is the big colorful attention stealing person in the room, its the same as 'peacocking' both phrases refer to how noticeable the creatures are for their markings in relation to how noticeable the person is in the gathering.

I have never heard the phrase Spendthrift, actually wouldn't know what it meant.

I still think 'tender hooks' makes sense, like the S shape hooks butchers hang meet on to tenderize it (which are now very popular in homes now for hanging things, we have several on our clothes rail so we dont have to faff with hangers), where as whose ever heard of, or used the very outdated item of a 'tenterhook'. Both do essentially a very similar job of hanging and stretching things (just one uses gravity). I would be much more scared of being hung on a butcher 'tender hook' than on a wood frame to stop washed material shrinking.

I thought a social butterfly was someone who flitted about in lots of different social groups and had lots of friends. Possibly not deep friendships. But lots of them.

Letthemeatgateau · 19/11/2025 08:57

The most irritating one for me is 'the proof is in the pudding'. Apart from the fact it's wrong, it makes no sense.

housethatbuiltme · 19/11/2025 08:58

IDontHateRainbows · 19/11/2025 08:39

I still dont know what 'heavy plant crossing ' means....

'Heavy' refers to 'Heavy machinery' (diggers, dumpers, lorries, cranes etc...)

'Plant' refers to an 'industrial work zone' (like how you have 'nuclear plants' etc...)

'Crossing' refers to 'pulling out on the road to cross' (like a pedestrian crossing etc...)

It basically means 'WARNING: look out for massive machines that could crush you but might not see you due to being massive and having blinds spots because they are driving around here'.

Westly · 19/11/2025 09:00

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A couple of people have vouched for me on this. I don’t appreciate being called a liar. You’ve shown yourself up as being pretty ignorant, and your comment which was deleted was also pretty crass. Talk about bringing the tone down on what is a fun thread. I’m so over this mentality on MN. I would like an apology, but chance is a fine thing. Have a good day!

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 19/11/2025 09:01

HideousKinky · 19/11/2025 08:45

"Hoist by your own petard" is from Hamlet

Yes. A petard is a little bomb that they used to blow up walls in sieges in medieval times, definitely not Biblical-era tech. But the concept is an old one I imagine.

I am fascinated by the different interpretations of "a friend in need...". I had only ever heard the nice one (when you're really struggling and a friend helps you, that's a very good friend) but I am enjoying the more cynical interpretation as that can be true too!

"Spendthrift" does make sense, or it used to. "Thrift" originally meant "wealth" so it just means someone who spends what they've got instead of saving it.

Love a bit of midweek etymology

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/11/2025 09:02

StruggleFlourish · 18/11/2025 21:14

English is an interesting language,
and especially more so when you start throwing some colloquialisms in there. You really do have to understand the etymology of the idiom before you can really understand what idea is being conveyed
An awful lot of people hear a saying and then just assume they know what it means but words are confusing without context.
More times than not the sayings are historically based. As a child I loved finding out the meanings behind strange sayings and I had many books about this very topic.

(Example "good night sleep tight...."
What does sleep tight mean?
I'm not asking the question, I know the answer...but if you don't know what it means, you could find out historically the story about the history of rope-based bed frames)

You could Google what some of the most commonly misunderstood phrases and sayings in the English language are and I'm sure that there'd be a huge list.
But you're right, some sayings could potentially be taken two ways if you're not sure where the saying comes from, or if you've missed heard it and you've never seen the words spelled, as there are many words that sound like other things, and that can also lead to misunderstanding.

Good luck!
🍀

Or even "misheard" it 😉

Genevieva · 19/11/2025 09:04

I thought social butterfly meant super sociable but also unreliable because they are always flitting between friends and social occasions.

Brahumbug · 19/11/2025 09:14

CryMyEyesViolet · 19/11/2025 08:32

Isn’t the epicentre effectively the source/centre point of an earthquake? The epicentre of the drug trade makes perfect sense if so because it’s a metaphor for the strongest point that then has ripple effects much further out?

Or have I also misunderstood epicentre?

Yes, you have misunderstood epicentre. The epicentre of an earthquake is the point on the earth's surface directly above the earthquake. The point of origin of the earthquake is the hypocentre. Epicentre of the drugs trade makes no sense. It is just journalists trying to add a false sense of drama to a situation.

SouthernNights59 · 19/11/2025 09:14

Leavesfalling · 19/11/2025 08:15

No ..its if you have a friend and they need something from you, they are going to act as a really good friend to you.

It's really, really, not.

CreativeAccounting · 19/11/2025 09:16

“But squids are damp” my daughter said to me when I told her that “damp squid” is incorrect.