To have completely misunderstood the meaning of some sayings?

[KermitTheToad]

I only found out today that the term Social Butterfly refers to someone who is outgoing and loves social events. I thought it meant you didn't like social events, as in you would fly away and avoid them. I also until recently thought that a Spendthrift is somebody who is frugal in their spending. I assumed that as thrifty meant not being wasteful, that Spendthrift meant being careful in what you spent.
YANBU..I see where you are coming from.
YABU.. You are a wally, go back to school!

No, you’re mistaken. @TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot is right. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/friend-in-need-is-a-friend-indeed

The proverb could, like anything, be used sarcastically but the sarcastic use is not the original meaning.

Sounds like a disease to be fair 😅

Yep

@Makeitstop2025your friend is wrong

No, @TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot is correct with both of them.

Colloquial I'd say or accent not a misunderstood saying

My whole life people have tried to explain to me the meaning of the expression 'that begs the question' and no matter how many times they do I simply cannot process its meaning.

@notthehill I take it to mean no idea why

Your friend is wrong, alas. It originally referred to a white man with dark hair and eyes. Nowadays of course it has moved to a meaning closer to what your friend inferred. No one could deny that Idris Elba is tall, dark and handsome!

I thought that about spendthrift too. It still doesn't make any sense to me. How can that be anything to do with being thrifty

I think you're right. If it meant what people think it means, they'd say, "Put up and shut up."

Either you fight it, or you shut up about it.

Don't worry, they almost certainly didn't get it right either. Most people don't, unless they teach logic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

Two in each hand and one in your mouth?

I have been to both (the one in Swansea and the one in Ogof Ffynnon Ddu which I assume is named after the one in Swansea)... as a child. I was quite the confused child, and a lot of it was to do with cavers amusingly re-using place names and mucky phrases for cave locations and formations.

For years, I thought a Toc H lamp was a brand of lamp that was notoriously crap, a forerunner to the modern head lamps like Petzl etc. I know what the phrase 'dim as a Toc H lamp' means now... as I say, frequently baffled child!

Say it in a Brummie accent then it makes sense 😀

Have not of….

I think about 67 separate posters have now told @Makeitstop2025 that she was right and her friend was wrong.

It would be ok to stop now.

Sorry…just realised what you meant. 🙈

Google says it can mean either 🤷🏼‍♀️

I thought the Cold War was called that because the USSR had a cold climate until DH put me straight and told me it's because there was no direct military fighting! In my defence I was a dippy teenager at the time!

Shivers - always referred to it as feeling as though a Goose was walking over your grave 🤦‍♀️
In some rural graveyard next to a farm this could still be a thing 🤷‍♀️

Sorry if someone's already asked I don't want to lose my place in the thread while I finish reading, but why did he coin it a 'catch 22' do you know? Rather than any other random combination of words and numbers! I'd love to know if there's more to it than that. Am I being dumb though now 😄

It means, in philosophy at least, that the starting point of an argument or question already assumes the answer. So "God is the greatest conceivable being; it is greater to exist in reality than merely in thought so God must exist in reality". Some argue that this "begs the question" because the first statement assumes God exists.

I say suspend disbelief too, but always question myself.
Your post makes perfect sense to me

Not a saying but until recently I thought jungle music was animal sounds speeded up. House music was something wholesome, that the whole household would enjoy.

‘Thrift’ means wealth or savings. So a spendthrift is literally someone who spends their wealth - ie profligate. Someone who’s thrifty on the other hand holds on to their wealth.