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Daygloboo · 15/11/2025 14:45

If Donald Trump gets compensation from the BBC to the tune of a million, which might affect our license fee payments, would it be appropriate to stop buying goods from US for a while. I think the BBC were wrong to misrepresent what Trump said, but effectively suing the population as a retaliation seems a step too far.

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ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:18

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:15

Infrastructure.

Explain?
Other streaming services work just fine. We pay and we watch.
All TV will be internet in a few years anyway

Viviennemary · 15/11/2025 22:19

About time the BBC got their cumuppance. I hope they go bust. But us mugs the licence payers will end up footing the bill.

BobnLen · 15/11/2025 22:19

ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:11

Even if we don’t watch anything BBC, if we watch ANY live TV that is not BBC we have to pay the license. I have a massive issue with that.

Yes, I do feel rather held over a barrel with that, if you want to watch any live sport you need a licence, little point in watching it after the event. Also watching Sky you need it and all the other channels. That is the part that really annoys me too

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:20

ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:18

Explain?
Other streaming services work just fine. We pay and we watch.
All TV will be internet in a few years anyway

And you can watch your streaming without paying.

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:20

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:15

Obama or Biden wouldn’t have incited insurrection, so it wouldn’t have arisen. What they did was stupid and shouldn’t have happened, but it didn’t change the thrust of what he was saying.

And this proves my point exactly. It’s not about what was said and Obama or Biden wouldn’t do it, it’s about the BBC knowingly misleading viewers. They’ve damaged their own reputation and by apologising they’ve admitted they are guilty. I hope they get sued for everything and we can finally see the back of the tv licence. And no I don’t care about the BBC orchestra, I care about honesty and impartiality from something we are forced to pay for.

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:23

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:20

And this proves my point exactly. It’s not about what was said and Obama or Biden wouldn’t do it, it’s about the BBC knowingly misleading viewers. They’ve damaged their own reputation and by apologising they’ve admitted they are guilty. I hope they get sued for everything and we can finally see the back of the tv licence. And no I don’t care about the BBC orchestra, I care about honesty and impartiality from something we are forced to pay for.

I was t mislead. Ido t think anyone was. It was stupid and unnecessary, and should have been picked up before broadcast, but it didn’t mislead. His behaviour shows he wanted that insurrection.
You arent forced to pay for it either.

BobnLen · 15/11/2025 22:24

Why are Sky, Netflix, Amazon, etc. not paying for the infrastructure, shouldn't they and their customers chip in as well. Surely paying for the infrastructure is something from the old days when it was just 4 channels and it was down to the BBC.

ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:25

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:20

And you can watch your streaming without paying.

You still haven’t explained the infrastructure we need to pay for as part our TV licence.

Cornishclio · 15/11/2025 22:25

HellsBellsAndCatsWhiskers · 15/11/2025 21:58

The BBC are news broadcasters. And regardless of whether or not it manipulated you, the intention was to manipulate the viewing public.

Edited

Yes this is what makes me cross too. The whole speech was a disjointed, incomprehensible rant about fake media, big tech, democrats and individual state results and suspected election fraud and how he believed he should have won the election so editing the sections they did just plays right into his hands. Whether you believe he meant to incite violence or not, in law he did not actually explicitly tell people to fight so they should not have edited it to make it look that way.

The man has deep pockets and gets his lawyers out at the slightest thing so they should not have given him the opportunity.

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:25

ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:25

You still haven’t explained the infrastructure we need to pay for as part our TV licence.

The infrastructure for live tv. For freeview, too.

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:26

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:23

I was t mislead. Ido t think anyone was. It was stupid and unnecessary, and should have been picked up before broadcast, but it didn’t mislead. His behaviour shows he wanted that insurrection.
You arent forced to pay for it either.

Edited

How do you know that people were not misled? You can’t possibly call that or speak for anyone else. It’s not about his behaviour, it’s about the behaviour of the BBC and how can people believe anything they report on in future.

Floisme · 15/11/2025 22:29

On this occasion I have no sympathy whatsoever for the BBC. What they did was a disgrace.

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:29

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:26

How do you know that people were not misled? You can’t possibly call that or speak for anyone else. It’s not about his behaviour, it’s about the behaviour of the BBC and how can people believe anything they report on in future.

For what feels like the millionth time, it wasn’t a news report.
I said I wasn’t manipulated. I can’t speak for everyone, no, but I’ve yet to speak to a real life person who thinks he was misrepresented - and not because they were brainwashed by one edit either. I haven’t even seen it, so the fact I know Trump incited violence is nothing to do with it. And that was talked about loads way before t(e programme was ever made.
As I’ve said, it was a silly think to do and the BBC should have caught it before broadcast but it didn’t misrepresent his main sentiment.

BobnLen · 15/11/2025 22:29

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:25

The infrastructure for live tv. For freeview, too.

So why aren't the streamers having to pay for their live TV, why do licence payers have to pay for them to show live stuff.

OhDearMuriel · 15/11/2025 22:30

They only let us to see what they want us to see.

Nothing new, it’s been like it for years and years. You’d almost have to be an idiot to not realise.

I’m glad they’ve got their comeuppance. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:31

BobnLen · 15/11/2025 22:29

So why aren't the streamers having to pay for their live TV, why do licence payers have to pay for them to show live stuff.

Ask them.
The BBC provides loads of value and the necessary infrastructure for many live broadcasts.

ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:31

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:25

The infrastructure for live tv. For freeview, too.

Freeview is coming to an end. We will no longer need a TV ariel soon.
Other pay to view platforms manage to stream live TV. Why should I have to pay for a TV licence to watch non-BBC live TV? Those services won’t suddenly stop live streaming if the BBC didn’t exist!

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:32

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:29

For what feels like the millionth time, it wasn’t a news report.
I said I wasn’t manipulated. I can’t speak for everyone, no, but I’ve yet to speak to a real life person who thinks he was misrepresented - and not because they were brainwashed by one edit either. I haven’t even seen it, so the fact I know Trump incited violence is nothing to do with it. And that was talked about loads way before t(e programme was ever made.
As I’ve said, it was a silly think to do and the BBC should have caught it before broadcast but it didn’t misrepresent his main sentiment.

Well if you haven’t even seen it of course you wouldn’t have been manipulated by it. It don’t know why you would keep saying that knowing you haven’t even watched it in the first place.

BobnLen · 15/11/2025 22:36

There will probably be so many people cancel their licences after this debacle that the BBC will explode in a puff of angry letters because it has to send so many. I suppose it will keep the postie in a job.

TempestTost · 15/11/2025 22:37

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:14

If what had been done? Poor splicing that doesn’t alter the main thrust of what he said?
Have a look what’s been done by the BBC to left wing figures. Corbyn in a Russian hat, for eg. Nobody sued them or called for them to be ‘brought down’.

You don't seem to be able to understand that there are many people in the US who do not think that he was trying to start an insurrection.

That is what you think. It might be what the BBC thinks. But no one other than (possibly) DT knows, the rest are making a judgement. Everyone has a right to come to their own conclusions and it's essential to a liberal democracy that that is the case.

People judge his intentions based on what they hear him say, and see him do.

If the media shows him saying something he did not in fact say, that means people may make a different judgement. This is nothing other than manipulation on the part of the BBC. They changed the meaning so that it was almost the opposite of what he in fact said.

And if they did it in this case, people now wonder, how many other times have they done it? Can they trust anything the media has shown them about DT? Maybe it has all been manipulated - how can they know?

And as for DT - well one thing we now know is he is right about media like the BBC being "fake news."

The level of fuck up on this is massive, and they've completely doubled down on it at every turn.

ArthriticOldLabrador · 15/11/2025 22:37

Well this is interesting…
AI Overview

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No, the BBC does not typically provide streaming infrastructure for
other platforms for their live TV services; instead, it provides its own content and services through its platforms like BBC iPlayer. The BBC has built its own internet distribution infrastructure (BIDI) to deliver its services to users and also collaborates with third-party Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) and Internet Service Providers to handle the load and ensure quality of service. While it develops technology and standards, such as adaptive bitrate streaming, it uses them for its own services, not to provide the underlying infrastructure to others, as it has a public service obligation to be universally accessible across many platforms.

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:38

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:32

Well if you haven’t even seen it of course you wouldn’t have been manipulated by it. It don’t know why you would keep saying that knowing you haven’t even watched it in the first place.

Because it’s the crux of it. Everyone was aware he incited the insurrection anyway. The programme changed nothing.

StillCreatingAName · 15/11/2025 22:39

It should never be acceptable to broadcast a deep fake about anyone.
Wait. What’s that you say? It wasn’t a deep fake, but an actual speech someone gave which I could have watched and then fast forwarded to the other bit, but instead someone saved me the trouble by stitching it together? Which was a bit naughty, some might even say lies unprofessional, but it saved me fast forwarding through the actual footage of that speech. Irrelevant which channel this was broadcast on, but I wish it was channel 4 as they would kick his ass all the way back to the touchline and wouldn’t be bullied, whereas the BBC have to stand in the village square and have tomatoes pelted at them.

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:39

TempestTost · 15/11/2025 22:37

You don't seem to be able to understand that there are many people in the US who do not think that he was trying to start an insurrection.

That is what you think. It might be what the BBC thinks. But no one other than (possibly) DT knows, the rest are making a judgement. Everyone has a right to come to their own conclusions and it's essential to a liberal democracy that that is the case.

People judge his intentions based on what they hear him say, and see him do.

If the media shows him saying something he did not in fact say, that means people may make a different judgement. This is nothing other than manipulation on the part of the BBC. They changed the meaning so that it was almost the opposite of what he in fact said.

And if they did it in this case, people now wonder, how many other times have they done it? Can they trust anything the media has shown them about DT? Maybe it has all been manipulated - how can they know?

And as for DT - well one thing we now know is he is right about media like the BBC being "fake news."

The level of fuck up on this is massive, and they've completely doubled down on it at every turn.

What have people in the US got to do with it? It was never broadcast there. I’m aware there are many brainwashed near cult members there.

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 22:39

cardibach · 15/11/2025 22:38

Because it’s the crux of it. Everyone was aware he incited the insurrection anyway. The programme changed nothing.

How do you know that because you haven’t watched it so have no idea what was in it.