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Tv licence ?

251 replies

AlwaysHopefull89 · 14/11/2025 11:34

Does anyone still pay their tv licence? If NOT, why not?

we don’t watch bbc at all, stream any live tv or even watch live tv to be honest.

our bill was £180 and I can’t justify paying that anymore if we aren’t using the services? I’m worried if I don’t pay next year when it’s due I’ll get a knock at our door 😂😂

AIBU to cancel ours?

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EasternStandard · 16/11/2025 11:34

Swiftie1878 · 16/11/2025 11:16

I think you’re an outlier. Binge watching is a huge thing - people glued to shows is pretty normal. In fact casual TV consumption is the thing that’s fading out.

And if you’re streaming Traitors, that’s on iPlayer and also attracts a TV licence fee.

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Binge watching usually means watching at a time of your choosing and streamed. It’s still in line with what I’m saying I just don’t overload episodes.

When I say not glued to Traitors as pp suggested I mean not fixed to a time, which is becoming less common.

I have never watched Traitors as already put in pp. I don’t stream any BBC content.

PuzzlingRecluse · 16/11/2025 11:35

I cancelled & wish I had sooner, don’t watch or record live tv, don’t use iplayer or bbc channels. I hate the threatening letters & I do think lots of people pay through fear rather than the need. They shouldn’t be allowed to send those letters once you’ve declared no need for the licence.

gudetamathelazyegg · 16/11/2025 11:37

I find it amusing all the people being like "don't lie you definitely watched the traitors" like nah I honestly haven't watched a single minute.

Right now I'm watching YouTube on my TV - Tasting History with Max Miller, he's wonderful. I'll probably watch YouTube content all day, or play a game on PS5. No licence required.

Swiftie1878 · 16/11/2025 11:38

EasternStandard · 16/11/2025 11:34

Binge watching usually means watching at a time of your choosing and streamed. It’s still in line with what I’m saying I just don’t overload episodes.

When I say not glued to Traitors as pp suggested I mean not fixed to a time, which is becoming less common.

I have never watched Traitors as already put in pp. I don’t stream any BBC content.

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No binge watching means watching in a ‘binge’ - one episode after another after another, often over several hours. Being ‘glued’ to a show. Very, very common.

EasternStandard · 16/11/2025 11:41

Swiftie1878 · 16/11/2025 11:38

No binge watching means watching in a ‘binge’ - one episode after another after another, often over several hours. Being ‘glued’ to a show. Very, very common.

The pp said ‘glued to Traitors’ meaning watching that at time of airing.

Scroll back you’ll see the post. You’ve mixed it up.

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 11:42

BeetrootBean · 16/11/2025 10:20

you called a poster sub human for not paying aTV licence?🐱

No I didn't.

Hummusanddipdip · 16/11/2025 11:46

I haven't paid it for years. We have 2 tvs, neither connected to the aerial (one room doesn't have connectivity the other is the opposite side of the room to the plug) and neither have Iplayer on them (too old) we don't watch live tv.
Every year they say they may visit, its been about 7 years and we haven't had a visit yet. I'd happily let them in and show them the lack of access.

If dh wants to watch football we go to parents or the pub.

Dollybantree · 16/11/2025 11:46

We haven’t had a tv licence for about 10 years. I can’t stand the bbc.

If anyone knocks on the door say “sorry, I’m really busy” and shut the door. There’s naff all they can do about it! Stories about people being jailed for not having one are likely scare stories put out there by the bbc!

Swiftie1878 · 16/11/2025 11:47

EasternStandard · 16/11/2025 11:41

The pp said ‘glued to Traitors’ meaning watching that at time of airing.

Scroll back you’ll see the post. You’ve mixed it up.

Neither of us mentioned ‘at time of airing’. I just picked up on you saying that being glued to a programme is a thing of the past, when actually it’s becoming the norm. Casual viewing is a thing of the past (for most).

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 11:49

gudetamathelazyegg · 16/11/2025 11:37

I find it amusing all the people being like "don't lie you definitely watched the traitors" like nah I honestly haven't watched a single minute.

Right now I'm watching YouTube on my TV - Tasting History with Max Miller, he's wonderful. I'll probably watch YouTube content all day, or play a game on PS5. No licence required.

I haven't seen any of traitors either,people don't believe me 💁🏻‍♀️

I don't have any problem at all with people who genuinely don't watch anything you need a licence for not paying for it.

i have a problem with people who think recording it first means it's not 'live' so they don't need to post it watching it in a different kind of screen means they don't need to pay.

and the biggest problem with people who know they do use it choosing not to pay & putting the cost up for those of us who are honest & pay.

EasternStandard · 16/11/2025 11:51

Swiftie1878 · 16/11/2025 11:47

Neither of us mentioned ‘at time of airing’. I just picked up on you saying that being glued to a programme is a thing of the past, when actually it’s becoming the norm. Casual viewing is a thing of the past (for most).

Ik you did and if you scroll back you’ll see the context.

Watching when wanted rather than at a fixed time is going up, we always do that instead and others will too.

That also lowers the demand for the BBC. People have other options.

Brw I think you’ve got the casual part incorrect when I’m talking about how it’s viewed too. It’s more about at a time you choose.

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 11:53

x2boys · 16/11/2025 10:23

Why don't you belive it ?
Netflix is much cheaper but I dont go around telling people they should pay for it to make it cheaper for me
I appreciate that some dont watch it or have any interest it
Why can,t you appreciate the same for the BBC?

Edited

Because peoll pl e think recording a program means it's 'not live, do they ding have gi pay or watching it on a 'not tv' screen means they don't have to pay etc

it would make it easier if people who hadn't paid were unable to access it in any way.

x2boys · 16/11/2025 11:57

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 11:53

Because peoll pl e think recording a program means it's 'not live, do they ding have gi pay or watching it on a 'not tv' screen means they don't have to pay etc

it would make it easier if people who hadn't paid were unable to access it in any way.

Most people are not thick and are aware of the rules
But yes I agree it would be easier for it to go to subscription only.

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:01

Imissgoldengrahams · 16/11/2025 07:20

I watch the likes of eastenders etc but never paid for a TV licence

Why not?

Do you also happily brag about shop theft (lifting)??

Specialfatfurrycat · 16/11/2025 12:03

Hummusanddipdip · 16/11/2025 11:46

I haven't paid it for years. We have 2 tvs, neither connected to the aerial (one room doesn't have connectivity the other is the opposite side of the room to the plug) and neither have Iplayer on them (too old) we don't watch live tv.
Every year they say they may visit, its been about 7 years and we haven't had a visit yet. I'd happily let them in and show them the lack of access.

If dh wants to watch football we go to parents or the pub.

Edited

You’d let a stranger who arrived unannounced, hoping to catch you out, come in and inspect all the rooms in your house to prove ‘you’re not a liar.’ More fool you. Have more respect for yourself

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:04

Megifer · 14/11/2025 13:30

Not had one for years. Still watch TV. Cancelled mine just because I didnt want to pay it anymore.

So do you & your friend (later post) enjoy going in shoplifting sprees together as well?

Specialfatfurrycat · 16/11/2025 12:07

stop with this shoplifting stuff @AutumnLeavesFallingFast . It’s embarrassing for you.

Not paying the fee is not the same as shoplifting because the two acts operate in entirely different legal and moral categories.

Shoplifting involves taking physical goods that belong to a business, directly depriving the owner of property without consent. It is an act of theft covered by criminal law.

the licence fee is a mandated payment that funds a public service broadcaster; refusing to pay it does not involve taking or removing any tangible property from the BBC. Instead, it is a breach of a statutory requirement, more comparable to failing to pay a tax or utility bill.

While both can lead to legal consequences, the nature of the wrongdoing is fundamentally different: one involves stealing someone else’s belongings, and the other involves not meeting a financial obligation to the state.

hairbearbunches · 16/11/2025 12:13

Probably going against the grain here, but i'm still happy to pay for mine. I'd pay it just for Radio 6 weekend output, tbh. There is so much to what the Beeb puts out. iPlayer, Sounds, live radio, drama, podcasts. There is so much.

I just can't agree that Netflix, Disney and Prime are better value for money. Taken altogether, they're more expensive, for far inferior output.

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:20

x2boys · 14/11/2025 16:53

😂🤣

Do you laugh at people ship lifting too??

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:25

BeetrootBean · 14/11/2025 19:47

Join the dark side and live a little!

She has morals, she doesn't need to stoop to your level of theft.

jokinv about it doesn't make your kind of theft any less reprehensible.

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:29

PatheticDistraction · 15/11/2025 06:13

I think what people fundamentally misunderstand is that it would no longer exist as the BBC in this format - it would no longer be a public service broadcaster, it would unlikely provide any educational content, the World Service would disappear, BBC news would likely become entertainment driven or cease to exist at all & radio output becomes a series of podcasts.

Whilst the Trump IV edit is a PR nightmare - the BBC do constantly strive for impartiality, which is why there is so much discussion, on both sides of the political divide about bias etc.

We all expect a degree of bias from our other news sources - Guardian, Telegraph, Fox News, CNN etc. Which is why impartiality isn't up for debate for these outlets. Whilst it is most definitely imperfect, the BBC does a great job of holding power to account (the Emily Maitliss/ Prince Andrew IV as an example). I have firsthand experience of the censorship happening of the media is America right now & it's truly terrifying.

I understand if people don't use any of the above don't pay, but the BBC cannot become a subscription service. It would be impossible to retain any impartiality & everything is skewed towards viewing figures/ what subscribers watch - that sounds great in theory, but actually pushes society further into ignorance & their own bubbles dictated by the algorithm.

For those who use it/ watch live TV without paying & think it's hilarious - you may want to read about the crisis in the industry, with many out of work & struggling. It has a real life impact.

Yes, all of that.

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:42

HelenaWaiting · 16/11/2025 01:41

Yep. And all the people who were glued to The Traitors, but they don't watch live TV so that's fine. I guess it's fine skipping out on paying if you know that others are picking up the tab for you.

Exactly. Makes you wonder about their morals in general. Especially in regard to shop lifting.

Specialfatfurrycat · 16/11/2025 12:51

@AutumnLeavesFallingFast might be time for you to take a break here. You’re posting a bit obsessively and repeatedly. Deep breath, it’s a Sunday!

AutumnLeavesFallingFast · 16/11/2025 12:56

Specialfatfurrycat · 16/11/2025 12:07

stop with this shoplifting stuff @AutumnLeavesFallingFast . It’s embarrassing for you.

Not paying the fee is not the same as shoplifting because the two acts operate in entirely different legal and moral categories.

Shoplifting involves taking physical goods that belong to a business, directly depriving the owner of property without consent. It is an act of theft covered by criminal law.

the licence fee is a mandated payment that funds a public service broadcaster; refusing to pay it does not involve taking or removing any tangible property from the BBC. Instead, it is a breach of a statutory requirement, more comparable to failing to pay a tax or utility bill.

While both can lead to legal consequences, the nature of the wrongdoing is fundamentally different: one involves stealing someone else’s belongings, and the other involves not meeting a financial obligation to the state.

Edited

It's not in the least bit embarrassing for me, but thank you for thinking of me 😂😂

people shop lifting puts up the price of goods for everyone

people not paying their licence fee puts up the cost for honest people who do pay it.

(Again, no issue with people who don't use any of the service not paying, but they're as rare as golden hens teeth)

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