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Who wants to wait whilst my kittens are born!

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Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 02:42

My girl is having her kittens! First one is here squeaking and healthy!

Second is imminent.

I think she’ll have 4 🤞🏽🤞🏽

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Sallycanwait44 · 13/11/2025 10:27

Hopefully you keep them all and spay and neuter them all.

I have loads of rescue cats and have taken in emaciated sick cats that were pregnant. The rescues are all full to bursting, definitely don't need people breeding moggies while the streets are full of strays

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:27

ObelixtheGaul · 13/11/2025 10:15

Honestly, people don't read, do they. OP didn't mean she didn't have homes for them, she clearly stated she does. She meant it will be hard to let them go. Other people understood that perfectly well.

She also clearly stated her cat will only be having one litter. Try reading, instead of inventing scenarios.

It was a little flippant, granted. But the same thing applies to far too many - and we only have her word on here that she will not let the cat have more litters and has homes, how much of it can be a reaction to the replies? No mention of getting the black father cat neutered either so he's probably out and about, adding to the problem.

I have seen and heard it time and time again, people say they will do the right thing and do not. Even with basics such as vaccinations (which I have personally paid for because people hard up), asking them to take the cat back for a booster, which I will pay for and never hear from them again. Too much effort to do right.

Forgive me if am cynical when it comes to this.

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:29

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:26

I was talking about how some animals are viewed as commodities ie the attitude some people have towards them but comparing them to nay other purchase like clothes, for example

Well the pp told me I was 'shameful' lol for not making cat overpopulation my personal issue to solve when i just wanted a cat. I replied to her asking if she was up for resolving all the problems of the world herself, and if her choices were always ethical, ehich I guess are not.

ObelixtheGaul · 13/11/2025 10:31

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:19

I love animals, I do not consider them a commodity and do quite a lot to help them where I can. That is the bottom line.

I love people and animals. Clothes might be a commodity, but the people who produce them, often in conditions far worse than that enjoyed by OP's cat, aren't. The waste that commodity produces contributes to environmental concerns which are harming every living thing on this planet.

I too do quite a lot to help animals. I've always had rescues myself and they've always been neutered/spayed. I'm still not pissing on OP's chips because her cat has had one litter of kittens she is rehoming to people who are not guaranteed to have gone to a shelter otherwise.

I'm not inventing scenarios for the kittens or the future of the OP's own cat because I have read her actual posts.

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:32

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:26

Please read people's posts correctly as you are putting words into both mine and OPs contexts. I never said cats were a commodity. I think you are vritue-signalling on one issue because you know someone who works in a shelter.

I won't engage with you but I'd love more kitty pics from @Kittenwatch

Wow, so the I am alright Jack part of your personality extends too to sulking? Ok. Cheerio.

TallulahBetty · 13/11/2025 10:33

Yay, more cats in the world when the shelters are already bursting at the seams

ObelixtheGaul · 13/11/2025 10:35

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:27

It was a little flippant, granted. But the same thing applies to far too many - and we only have her word on here that she will not let the cat have more litters and has homes, how much of it can be a reaction to the replies? No mention of getting the black father cat neutered either so he's probably out and about, adding to the problem.

I have seen and heard it time and time again, people say they will do the right thing and do not. Even with basics such as vaccinations (which I have personally paid for because people hard up), asking them to take the cat back for a booster, which I will pay for and never hear from them again. Too much effort to do right.

Forgive me if am cynical when it comes to this.

Ok, understood. Fair point. I wish you well in your endeavours.

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:36

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:32

Wow, so the I am alright Jack part of your personality extends too to sulking? Ok. Cheerio.

I literally don't understand this but ok. You seem to be determined to be a miserable and take it out on me and op.

I'm going to start my working day now so no time for virtue signallers, but if you have time on your hands, maybe volunteer at a shelter yourself? "Cheerio" you too

Citrusbergamia · 13/11/2025 10:39

NettleTea · 13/11/2025 10:22

I swear someone could come on here having discovered the cure for cancer and there would be people telling her she was bad and wrong and selfish, and probably did it the wrong way.

Love your kittens OP

haha...yes!

Olderbutt · 13/11/2025 10:40

ShodAndShadySenators · 13/11/2025 08:04

I would reconsider the whole keeping one kitten thing - I had to rehome one of my cats because mum cat's instinct is to drive kittens away to their own new territories when they grow up. I hope this doesn't happen to you because it was heartbreaking for us and I still miss my rehomed cat terribly 💔 but it had to be done because they were both so stressed (to the point of illness) with each other's presence. Something to consider...

It doesn't always happen tbh. I would wait and see . My daughter kept two of her cats litter and it's been very successful

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:41

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:27

It was a little flippant, granted. But the same thing applies to far too many - and we only have her word on here that she will not let the cat have more litters and has homes, how much of it can be a reaction to the replies? No mention of getting the black father cat neutered either so he's probably out and about, adding to the problem.

I have seen and heard it time and time again, people say they will do the right thing and do not. Even with basics such as vaccinations (which I have personally paid for because people hard up), asking them to take the cat back for a booster, which I will pay for and never hear from them again. Too much effort to do right.

Forgive me if am cynical when it comes to this.

I've become more cynical over the years too. We used to live in an army garrison town up north and there was a large feral cat population living near our quarters. Families would be posted to other camps and just abandon their cats. It was honestly heartbreaking. Some of them seemed to be getting by on scraps from the kitchens at the back of the mess. It was ever so sad.

Purplebunnie · 13/11/2025 10:44

@PullingOutHair123 "Ignore the harbingers of doom, simply here to bring everyone down to their level. Would probably have made very good Puritans if they'd been born a couple of centuries ago."

I actually think some of the posters on here are gathering firewood as we speak and intend to burn the OP as a witch for daring to do what she has done

@Kittenwatch they are absolutely adorable and I would love to see more pictures

Maiyakat · 13/11/2025 10:51

What a beautiful mum and babies 🥰

Re keeping one kitten, we took a mum and baby pair from a rescue, mum was very protective of baby when she was younger but got to a point where she was clearly thinking 'why have you not left home yet?!' They co-exist fine but mainly do their own things. Mum is a grumpy antisocial creature though (apart from her few preferred humans whose beds she will happily invade) so it might just be a personality thing!

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:52

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:41

I've become more cynical over the years too. We used to live in an army garrison town up north and there was a large feral cat population living near our quarters. Families would be posted to other camps and just abandon their cats. It was honestly heartbreaking. Some of them seemed to be getting by on scraps from the kitchens at the back of the mess. It was ever so sad.

It is incredibly sad. It's just suffering that didn't need to happen.

Purplebunnie · 13/11/2025 10:53

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:10

Ok, that's a selfish attitude. We are all responsible and if all played our part, there wouldn't be such a problem.

But, you have the I am alright Jack, sod the rest attitude. Shameful.

And yes, the OP (despite initially admitting she had no idea how to rehome them all) may have found homes for these kittens. What about the next ones, the ones after that? Does she have an endless supply of friends who are willing to take her kittens on? Or will she be advertising them on gumtree for £40, leaving them vulnerable to the people who abuse, or the people who buy them from there as dog bait?

Be responsible. Play your part, same with everything in the world.

The OP has stated in her first post that this will be the only litter that her cat is having.

I think you have misunderstood the OP, she was saying she was going to find it hard rehoming them because they were so adorable, not that she couldn't find homes for them - in fact she had homes lined up before the kittens were even born and if I remember correctly some of her friends are going to be disappointed as her cat hasn't had enough kittens

GFBurger · 13/11/2025 10:54

So Exciting! Congratulations and thanks for posting

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:59

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:36

I literally don't understand this but ok. You seem to be determined to be a miserable and take it out on me and op.

I'm going to start my working day now so no time for virtue signallers, but if you have time on your hands, maybe volunteer at a shelter yourself? "Cheerio" you too

Virtue signalling? Ok. What you didn't read properly when said I had a friend in rescue is that I help out (and people say about not reading properly, lol).

I've helped my friend a lot when I can, she's so busy, works full time and spends every spare moment rescuing cats (and am not exaggerating), and she has a little army of friends such as myself who cannot do as much as her (me, because of ill health, others have their own reasons), that she can call on to scan a cat, put paper collar on to look for owners, drop off food for feeders (as they are less likely to feed a stray when it costs them money), while waiting months for rescue spots, actually personally go every day to feed strays that are waiting too, this isn't a few days, this is months of commitment. I've set up poly box and wooden shelters with straw in the winter, looked after them, gained trust, searched in the cold and wet looking for cats, captured cats and taken them to rescue, scanned strays, taken poorly ones to vets and picked them up again, personally paid for vaccines on lost cats returned to owners as cat's protection can only pay for chip and neuter, given books on how to look after cats to clueless owners too and donated food, blankets, toys for years.

I am a believer that if everyone can help a little bit, then it starts to make a difference but it's very hard to feel optimistic when people are still not neutering their own pets, as gorgeous as it is having kittens and attitudes such as yours that are selfish. Cheerio, enjoy work.

Molecule · 13/11/2025 11:00

Many years ago two kittens (about 4/5 months old) were dumped outside our farm. They were delightful cats, sadly one died soon afterwards, but one survived. Within months she was pregnant and thus we got into a cycle of having kittens upon kittens as she got pregnant almost immediately and couldn’t be spayed whilst lactating - eventually she had a late abortion and was spayed at the same time. But there was a tremendous demand for the kittens as in my area, as others have said, it appeared almost impossible for families to adopt from shelters. I’m still in touch with many of the evil kitten buyers, and whilst Mummy Cat (we weren’t very good with names) has long departed, I still have her granddaughter (mother also managed to get pregnant before spaying, an issue with outdoor farm cats).

So the only warning I would give to @Kittenwatch is make sure you don’t let the mother cat out of your sight - 10 minutes in the garden and she’ll be pregnant again!

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 11:04

Purplebunnie · 13/11/2025 10:53

The OP has stated in her first post that this will be the only litter that her cat is having.

I think you have misunderstood the OP, she was saying she was going to find it hard rehoming them because they were so adorable, not that she couldn't find homes for them - in fact she had homes lined up before the kittens were even born and if I remember correctly some of her friends are going to be disappointed as her cat hasn't had enough kittens

Yes, I realised I scanned that part as many people here have pointed out already, but I will stand by my post that really, there's enough cats needing a home right now than add to it. I am also cynical about her promise to neuter as was it mentioned as a reaction when others said about the problems, plus no mention of getting the black daddy cat castrated either. I presume he's allowed outside..

She needs to ensure that those kittens are neutered too, otherwise the cycle continues.

grumpygrape · 13/11/2025 11:06

tortietimestwo · 13/11/2025 08:55

We're not being horrible, OP. I'm glad the kittens are cute and you have found homes for them, but breeding your cat is irresponsible and does put her at higher risk of reproductive health problems now that she's been through multiple heats and birth. Higher risk of uterine cancer and pyometra among them. Why would you risk that for your cat, just for cute kittens that your friends could have got from shelters?

Also, if you are adopting them out, don't do it until the kittens are all spayed/neutered and ideally fully vaccinated as well. Yes, that will be expensive but that's your responsibility when you have a litter. It's likely that at least one of the friends won't do this and this prevents suffering and further irresponsible breeding. So much suffering is caused by animals not being fixed, I know your kittens are gorgeous but you need to think about the wider picture and what you've put the poor little mama through, when she could have been having a nice playful life.

My vets and I don’t agree with early neutering except in certain circumstances; rehoming rescues and feral cats. These kittens have been responsibly bred and are going to homes the owner is happy with. I’m sure she’s responsible enough to oversee their new homes and owners slaves.

Puppylucky · 13/11/2025 11:08

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:11

No it's not. Nice stretch there.... unwanted kittens are being born because people don't neuter for whatever reason they wish to try and justify it with, not because of what someone writes on MN.

It's not a stretch - a previous poster claimed she could guarantee that at least two of the kits would also go on to have kittens - based on what I have no idea.

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 11:09

grumpygrape · 13/11/2025 11:06

My vets and I don’t agree with early neutering except in certain circumstances; rehoming rescues and feral cats. These kittens have been responsibly bred and are going to homes the owner is happy with. I’m sure she’s responsible enough to oversee their new homes and owners slaves.

It's 4 months isn't it? Minimum, or down to weight.
Not neutering is fine at the start, wait til a little older but they shouldn't be allowed outside and ensure they don't escape by accident which happens a heck of a lot. They can get pregnant at 4 months old.

Lol over slaves - that's the truth!

grumpygrape · 13/11/2025 11:10

Ihatemondays1962 · 13/11/2025 09:10

I struggle to believe any vet would think breeding more black and white moggies was anything other than a terrible and selfish idea. They are already the most overlooked in rescue.

But these aren't going into rescue.

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 11:10

Puppylucky · 13/11/2025 11:08

It's not a stretch - a previous poster claimed she could guarantee that at least two of the kits would also go on to have kittens - based on what I have no idea.

People are not neutering and the problem is getting much worse (I presume cost of living?), that's why I think they wrote that (and worked in rescue). It will be observation.

Puppylucky · 13/11/2025 11:14

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:27

It was a little flippant, granted. But the same thing applies to far too many - and we only have her word on here that she will not let the cat have more litters and has homes, how much of it can be a reaction to the replies? No mention of getting the black father cat neutered either so he's probably out and about, adding to the problem.

I have seen and heard it time and time again, people say they will do the right thing and do not. Even with basics such as vaccinations (which I have personally paid for because people hard up), asking them to take the cat back for a booster, which I will pay for and never hear from them again. Too much effort to do right.

Forgive me if am cynical when it comes to this.

Blimey never was a poster less well named! Just let it go and stop catastrophising. Just because some people don't do the right thing it doesn't mean everyone is awful and filled with bad or even careless intent.

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