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Who wants to wait whilst my kittens are born!

908 replies

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 02:42

My girl is having her kittens! First one is here squeaking and healthy!

Second is imminent.

I think she’ll have 4 🤞🏽🤞🏽

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Puppylucky · 13/11/2025 10:06

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 09:58

Cats that are outside will have several litters a year. The safe amount as proven by vets is 1-2 litters a year. So just because they can have so so many litters, it doesn't mean they should.
Ignorance.

Again not the situation we are discussing here. A previous poster had suggested that OP had put her cat at serious risk of ill health by allowing one pregnancy. We are not talking about outside cats having multiple pregnancies per year. Why are you and other posters so keen to drag wider welfare issues into this discussion? They are important obviously but not relevant to the situation as it stands. If it really matters so much to you why don't you start your own thread discussing the problems that you keep raising here?

Hmmmmwineandchocs · 13/11/2025 10:06

Oh OP they are adorable!!!! Thank you for sharing the photos. Cuddles to mummy cat

ObelixtheGaul · 13/11/2025 10:07

EverardDeTroyes · 13/11/2025 09:57

Aww, this thread has made me feel the tiniest bit better, though in a bittersweet way, in what is an extremely difficult time for me. We had our dear old boy put to sleep this week and every minute is agony at the moment. His brother, who died 4 years ago, looked just like your mumma cat, and I think I see a tuxedo black and white kitty in amongst the bundle, which was just the colouring our recently lost cat had. It helps a little, thinking that even in our darkest days, some joy and light is occurring elsewhere. Enjoy this precious time and try not to listen to the tediously inevitable detractors. I know there are always more cats than there are loving homes, but honestly, the way some people carry on, if no-one's moggy ever had a litter of kittens, there would be no more moggies left in 20 years. I am not a fan of cats bred out of all recognition. Moggy cats are the only cats imo.

So sorry for your loss. I've just been through it myself, just over a month since we said goodbye to our best mate.
We can't face putting away his food bowls still, so they sit in the kitchen with tea lights in them.

SoftLeaf · 13/11/2025 10:07

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Exactly!

I wonder how many of these people have adopted cats themselves? Considering this is AIBU and not the litter tray, I’m guessing very few.

People are always going to breed animals at the end of the day.

Growlybear83 · 13/11/2025 10:08

Why do people have to be so foul on Mumsnet? This was a lovely thread by someone who wanted to share the joyful experience of her cat giving birth to five beautiful kitties but as usual, people pile on with unpleasant comments and derail the thread. Some people on this forum just argue for the sake of it and could start a row in a paper bag. It’s no wonder other forums have sections dedicated to taking the piss out of Mumsnet posters.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/11/2025 10:08

Ironically I ended up with my girl cat because the options were me or death. So technically going by the attitude of some here, it would have been preferable for her to be euthanized as a healthy young cat than commit the sin of unplanned kittens. You can argue it all round in circles until the cows come home, but the point is, OP has some healthy kittens, a loved cat, and is doing all the right things moving forward.

Out of my litter, two have already been spayed / neutered, and two are booked for the next few weeks. So the PP "guaranteeing" that at least two out of every litter will go on to have more kittens isn't necessarily written in stone.

TheTortiePuffinNeedsHerBreakfast · 13/11/2025 10:09

RoomToDream · 13/11/2025 08:19

I think the point about spaying and neutering has been made now and the thread shouldn't be derailed while OP is asleep. OP was clear in an early post that this would be her cat's only litter. The PSB has been made to other people now too.

OP, I hope your son has a lovely morning and mum and kits are doing well. I was really touched by your cat coming to you before it happened and wanting you there. I was brought up with dogs so it was a sweet insight into how cats are affectionate with their owners.

Indeed, and she also has homes for them already.

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:10

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 09:51

I tried 3 and gave up - Battersea, CP and something else. Honestly, it's not mine or OPs problem to solve the animal welfare issues in the UK. OP has found nice homes for her kitties.

Ok, that's a selfish attitude. We are all responsible and if all played our part, there wouldn't be such a problem.

But, you have the I am alright Jack, sod the rest attitude. Shameful.

And yes, the OP (despite initially admitting she had no idea how to rehome them all) may have found homes for these kittens. What about the next ones, the ones after that? Does she have an endless supply of friends who are willing to take her kittens on? Or will she be advertising them on gumtree for £40, leaving them vulnerable to the people who abuse, or the people who buy them from there as dog bait?

Be responsible. Play your part, same with everything in the world.

Puppylucky · 13/11/2025 10:10

TigTails · 13/11/2025 09:43

Telling you something you don’t want to hear is not horrible or bullying. We’re still correct.

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It is if you keep on doing it whilst attacking the OP personally as selfish, irresponsible and almost certainly the cause of unwanted kittens being born in the future

Howmanycatsistoomany · 13/11/2025 10:11

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Quite.

Years ago on another forum I got told off for breeding my mare. She's well bred, with good conformation and I spent a long time finding the right stallion for her. But apparently I should have adopted one of the thousands of poorly bred cobs filling the horse rescues.🙄

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:11

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 09:51

I tried 3 and gave up - Battersea, CP and something else. Honestly, it's not mine or OPs problem to solve the animal welfare issues in the UK. OP has found nice homes for her kitties.

I think it's everyone's problem to be honest. Especially bearing in mind they are charitable organisations staffed by volunteers. My cats are spayed and neutered because I take animal welfare seriously. The amount of pets that are being abandoned at the moment is heartbreaking. I think we should all be doing our bit to make sure the problem doesn't get any worse. I too think the kittens are beautiful and I'm sure the op didn't intend on upsetting anyone. Are you thinking of having your girl spayed after this litter?

ObelixtheGaul · 13/11/2025 10:11

Growlybear83 · 13/11/2025 10:08

Why do people have to be so foul on Mumsnet? This was a lovely thread by someone who wanted to share the joyful experience of her cat giving birth to five beautiful kitties but as usual, people pile on with unpleasant comments and derail the thread. Some people on this forum just argue for the sake of it and could start a row in a paper bag. It’s no wonder other forums have sections dedicated to taking the piss out of Mumsnet posters.

Other forums have sections dedicated to taking the piss out of Mumsnet users really? I bet that's hilarious 😂

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:11

Puppylucky · 13/11/2025 10:10

It is if you keep on doing it whilst attacking the OP personally as selfish, irresponsible and almost certainly the cause of unwanted kittens being born in the future

No it's not. Nice stretch there.... unwanted kittens are being born because people don't neuter for whatever reason they wish to try and justify it with, not because of what someone writes on MN.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/11/2025 10:14

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:10

Ok, that's a selfish attitude. We are all responsible and if all played our part, there wouldn't be such a problem.

But, you have the I am alright Jack, sod the rest attitude. Shameful.

And yes, the OP (despite initially admitting she had no idea how to rehome them all) may have found homes for these kittens. What about the next ones, the ones after that? Does she have an endless supply of friends who are willing to take her kittens on? Or will she be advertising them on gumtree for £40, leaving them vulnerable to the people who abuse, or the people who buy them from there as dog bait?

Be responsible. Play your part, same with everything in the world.

Tell me you haven't read all the OPs posts without telling me....🙄

OP meant she didn't know how she would let them go, which is a familiar feeling for those of us in her position. She said this at the same time as having said she had enough homes for 6!!!

ObelixtheGaul · 13/11/2025 10:15

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:10

Ok, that's a selfish attitude. We are all responsible and if all played our part, there wouldn't be such a problem.

But, you have the I am alright Jack, sod the rest attitude. Shameful.

And yes, the OP (despite initially admitting she had no idea how to rehome them all) may have found homes for these kittens. What about the next ones, the ones after that? Does she have an endless supply of friends who are willing to take her kittens on? Or will she be advertising them on gumtree for £40, leaving them vulnerable to the people who abuse, or the people who buy them from there as dog bait?

Be responsible. Play your part, same with everything in the world.

Honestly, people don't read, do they. OP didn't mean she didn't have homes for them, she clearly stated she does. She meant it will be hard to let them go. Other people understood that perfectly well.

She also clearly stated her cat will only be having one litter. Try reading, instead of inventing scenarios.

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:17

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:10

Ok, that's a selfish attitude. We are all responsible and if all played our part, there wouldn't be such a problem.

But, you have the I am alright Jack, sod the rest attitude. Shameful.

And yes, the OP (despite initially admitting she had no idea how to rehome them all) may have found homes for these kittens. What about the next ones, the ones after that? Does she have an endless supply of friends who are willing to take her kittens on? Or will she be advertising them on gumtree for £40, leaving them vulnerable to the people who abuse, or the people who buy them from there as dog bait?

Be responsible. Play your part, same with everything in the world.

Lol, you have no idea of the responsibilities I have in the eorld or the work I do. You are just determined to make a happy thread a sanctimonious one.

I'm not going to trawl through shelter after shelter for a cat, hoping someone will not object to kids. I cannot take the weight of the world on me. I tried, then went private and have a lovely cat.

Are all your choices always ethical? Do you only buy from charity shops cause there are already enough clothes in the world to clothe thr next 6 generations of people?
Do you swerve Amazon amd Temu ro keep the high street from dying out? Do you donate all you disposable income to charities? Csuse you know you COULD take responsibility for the society around you.

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:19

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:17

Lol, you have no idea of the responsibilities I have in the eorld or the work I do. You are just determined to make a happy thread a sanctimonious one.

I'm not going to trawl through shelter after shelter for a cat, hoping someone will not object to kids. I cannot take the weight of the world on me. I tried, then went private and have a lovely cat.

Are all your choices always ethical? Do you only buy from charity shops cause there are already enough clothes in the world to clothe thr next 6 generations of people?
Do you swerve Amazon amd Temu ro keep the high street from dying out? Do you donate all you disposable income to charities? Csuse you know you COULD take responsibility for the society around you.

Clothes are commodities. Pets are living, sentient beings. It's rather different.

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:19

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:17

Lol, you have no idea of the responsibilities I have in the eorld or the work I do. You are just determined to make a happy thread a sanctimonious one.

I'm not going to trawl through shelter after shelter for a cat, hoping someone will not object to kids. I cannot take the weight of the world on me. I tried, then went private and have a lovely cat.

Are all your choices always ethical? Do you only buy from charity shops cause there are already enough clothes in the world to clothe thr next 6 generations of people?
Do you swerve Amazon amd Temu ro keep the high street from dying out? Do you donate all you disposable income to charities? Csuse you know you COULD take responsibility for the society around you.

I love animals, I do not consider them a commodity and do quite a lot to help them where I can. That is the bottom line.

Allergictoironing · 13/11/2025 10:21

I have rescue cats. One was from a feral colony, started out as a couple of cats and there were 19 by the time the rescue got to them. When I lost the boy to CKD, I got another boy as a companion to the girl.

He had been with a family until he reached about 6 months from what we could gather, then he started to show adult male cat behaviours - no longer a cute pretty little kitten but a hormonal teen. So rather than neutering him they dumped him on the streets. Apparently this was quite common on the estate he came from, the rescues do a sweep a couple of times a year to get hold of the ones they can.

Unfortunately he was around 2 by the time he was trapped, so in that time he'd managed to contract FIV (cat aids basically) and has some serious permanent digestive issues - both of these mean his life is likely to be much shortened. He's about 5 now, and I'll be very lucky if he reaches 7-8 years old.

I know the OP has found homes for all the kittens, but that's 4 more kittens stuck in rescues now who now won't be offered the home that hers are going to.

Sadly many people anthropomorphise pets and don't understand that for cats having a litter isn't the same emotional thing it is for people having babies. They don't get the urge to have "children" as such, they have a hormonal drive which forces them to seek out sex and kittens are the result. The number they have in a litter, and the number of litters they can have, is due to the attrition rate of cats before they became domesticated. But they haven't evolved yet to adjust to being loved pets and homed. As a pp said, the longer female cats are left before spaying the higher the chances of them contracting various diseases like pyometra or mammary cancers.

Those of us who have seen the results of indiscriminate breeding tend to be quite passionate on the subject, which is why many have commented on this aspect.

But yes the kittens are very cute!

NettleTea · 13/11/2025 10:22

I swear someone could come on here having discovered the cure for cancer and there would be people telling her she was bad and wrong and selfish, and probably did it the wrong way.

Love your kittens OP

Catpiece · 13/11/2025 10:22

What a lovely thread. Absolutely love the kittens. Why oh why have the righteous got to spoil every spark of joy. You can’t have anything nice can you without someone pissing all over it. I’m sure life never used to be like that. So many know-alls and people ready to put you straight nowadays. Enjoy the kitties until they’re rehomed ❤️

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:23

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:19

Clothes are commodities. Pets are living, sentient beings. It's rather different.

Clothing industry is literally one of the worst and fastest growing polluters in the world. It's a bigger problem. You won't have a planet for you or the cats soon

Wynter25 · 13/11/2025 10:23

Ignore the haters. Kitties are gorgeous 😍

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/11/2025 10:26

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:23

Clothing industry is literally one of the worst and fastest growing polluters in the world. It's a bigger problem. You won't have a planet for you or the cats soon

I was talking about how some animals are viewed as commodities ie the attitude some people have towards them but comparing them to nay other purchase like clothes, for example

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 10:26

Happyjoe · 13/11/2025 10:19

I love animals, I do not consider them a commodity and do quite a lot to help them where I can. That is the bottom line.

Please read people's posts correctly as you are putting words into both mine and OPs contexts. I never said cats were a commodity. I think you are vritue-signalling on one issue because you know someone who works in a shelter.

I won't engage with you but I'd love more kitty pics from @Kittenwatch