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To be very confused about training dogs

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Stopthatfido · 11/11/2025 15:27

I've had a dog for 2 years from a puppy. I've trained him. I keep training him. Just when I think I've got on top of the best way to train him I read something different.

Today it's a local trainer and owners praising the benefit of ecollars, which I thought were a massive no no.

As lots of posters (and normal people in the real world) think all the dogs should be perfectly behaved, am I being unreasonable to think there should be some kind of consensus on what is good dog training practice?

YANBU - We're in the 21st century. Surely someone knows the best way to train dogs

YABU - Get a grip. No one is ever going to agree. Some people are always going to bang on about being the alpha.

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Magpie50 · 12/11/2025 04:29

I don't think aversive, harsh training methods ever work (unless your enðgoal is to have your dog afraid of you).

I will say I thought I was pretty good at training. I had 3 dogs who were all well trained and well behaved....then I got number 4!
He is fear aggressive, reactive, anxious. If he was a person I'd think he was autistic as its like he doesn't really understand the world or other dogs. I had to rethink what I knew with him and even now he is a work in progress.

Don't get me wrong...he is the sweetest most loving dog and wants to please you, its just often he can't compute the world (thanks to fireworks and my older dog being PTS he currently has stress colitis, poor lad).
So I suppose I'm saying there really isn't a 'one size fits all' answer.

Chiseltip · 12/11/2025 06:17

WiddlinDiddlin · 11/11/2025 21:27

Perfectly OK thankyou, that was an analogy.. not sure if you've come across those before...

You said the outcome was most important, ie. the dog no longer performs the unwanted behaviour. (Because an e-collar or prong collar is an aversive (as are many other variations on the positive punishment theme), it cannot train a dog to do something, only to not do something - punishment reduces the frequency of behaviour... ).

Shooting the dog would instantly and permanently stop the dog doing the thing you don't want it to do.

It is of course pretty out there as hyperbole goes but the point still stands - if you agree with me that this would not be acceptable, then you agree the method does matter.

You seem very aggressive.

Chiseltip · 12/11/2025 06:20

Chiseltip · 12/11/2025 06:17

You seem very aggressive.

Again, you're talking about shooting animals, and using shock collars.

What kind of training do you deliver?

You seem very aggressive for someone who talks about training animals. I definitely wouldn't feel safe having you around my dogs.

WiddlinDiddlin · 12/11/2025 15:56

@Chiseltip

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analogy
/əˈnalədʒi/

noun
noun: analogy; plural noun: analogies
a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
"an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
a correspondence or partial similarity.
"the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia"
a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects.
"works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature"

You can re-read the thread to see what sort of training/behaviour work I do. I am a certified Fear Free practitioner too. Any aggression you're reading into my words is your own interpretation.

Before you continue to Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=5676decb8ecacc3d&q=how+to+pronounce+analogy&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcRoyS3w8sc9YSmDSWtOXmPU4uINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPExLmYglJLcoV4pbi5GJPzEvMyU-vtGJRYkrN41nEKpGRX65Qkq9QANSSD9STqgBVAQCZtlBtWQAAAA&pron_lang=en&pron_country=gb&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjawquW_OyQAxXQQkEAHQVDD7UQ3eEDegQIHRAN

Words · 12/11/2025 16:08

@WiddlinDiddlin I would love you to do an Ask Me Anything g thread!

WiddlinDiddlin · 12/11/2025 17:26

I would but as my main job now is answering live chat questions on puppy/dog training online, it'd be no different to work!!

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