To never shop at Pets Corner again

[Dacatspjs]

I have a number of pets, I have to say mine aren't that bothered by fireworks, they seem to see the others are alright and all keep each other calm.

I'm not that bothered by neighbours having fireworks. If theyre big organised displays you see the advertising locally so know they might be louder, longer, brighter. If they are in homes then people tend to do what they can and let you know on Facebook. Maybe tighter regulation to stop yobs buying them to throw down the street. But my point is I'm not an expert in the subject and I dont know really whether we need change or not.

But. When you are the CEO of a pet company, making millions from "caring" about pets, I do think it is beyond hypocrisy to have a professional firework show in your garden and not tell animal owners locally so they can prepare.

The company Facebook page is building engagement by posting about the dangers of fireworks, all the while the CEO has a party that resulted in the death of a horse.

I won't be shopping there again, and it was my preferred pet shop.

You can't make millions from pet are and not care about pets. And for me that doesn't mean caring about your own pets, it means caring about all pets.

I was also wondering about this. I grew up in the countryside and loads of us had bonfires and fireworks in our fields and gardens. (I’m mid 50s, so this was in the 70s/80s). Lots of friends and neighbours had pets, horses and livestock. I remember there was always advice to ‘keep pets indoors’ but can’t recall any issues with horses or troubled pets at the level it’s at these days.
I wondered if it was about the noise levels as a pp says, so I googled:
“The idea that consumer fireworks are louder now than they used to be is generally a
myth; in many places like the UK, maximum noise levels are strictly regulated and are actually lower than some of the extremely loud fireworks available decades ago.” It goes on to say that the decibels permitted are actually lower now than in the 1990s/early2000s.
So why is it more of an issue now? Are animals (and people) more spooked than they used to be? Genuinely curious!

I really do not see how that can possibly be true. Quite a few fireworks now sound like bombs going off and that is not exaggeration. I have heard a bomb going off so know exactly what it sounds like.

We used to have catherine wheels and roman candles and they hardly make any noise at all

This is the front story on mail online now

seems he told someone local that he could do whatever he wanted

needs to leave that job and not have shares in that company imo

disgusting hypocrisy

What the owner of the company did was irresponsible. But a company is more than just the CEO. I think you’re just virtue signalling to be honest.

Yes, we did have Catherine wheels etc in our box of ‘Standard’ fireworks, but we had loud rockets too. I remember someone’s dad bringing back a 250 shot banger from a work trip to Asia!
I suppose the one big difference was that we only had fireworks on 5th Nov - so it was super noisy, but only for one night. The only fireworks on other nights were organised displays, usually only on the nearest Saturday.

people Know they cause animals stress, wildlife and pets.
they know they cause some people stress.
they know they can buy quiet fireworks go to organised displays

yet some carry on regardless. It’s just the definition of selfish.

Because even if pets are kept indoors fireworks are much louder than they used to be. ETA they are louder, whatever Google says, and they go on for longer and are more frequent.

Look at the pleb demonstrating it’s ignorance.

Are you a pet behaviorist? My local Facebook groups have been full of comments about animals being scared by fireworks and suggestions about what to do but not many if any posts about success in solving the problem

My own brother is one of these people, what have you found to be the most effective approach?

The CEO isn’t necessarily a hypocrite unless he or his company is actively campaigning for a ban. It’s certainly tone deaf though.

No. No she is not. She's all over the place being deliberately offensive and contrarian. No point engaging because she's living her best life.

You would not expect fireworks in a garden to be something like at a large event, with very loud industrial fireworks being used, set to music! And right next to a paddock with horses in

The noise would be horrendous

I will not be shopping there either

I was supposed to go to Pet’s Corner today to pick up an item only they seem to stock. I was absolutely disgusted by what I read this morning re the owner. I absolutely will be taking my business elsewhere. It’s such a shame I’ve been looking for this item for actual months. What are the chances.

edit: just found that what I need is available directly. Next day delivery is now possible as the minimum spend is lower than PC’s. Awesome!

It might be possible to desensitise pets. However, where I live (and I'm hardly unique) there's lots of livestock - cattle, sheep, alpaca - and lots of wildlife, such as deer, hedgehogs, foxes, all sorts of birds. How do you propose desensitising them?

I don't think they're louder, from memory.. the premise of how they work is exactly the same isn't it.. it's not as if we have invented some new louder explosive substance? Catherine wheels were sometimes quite loud too (whistle)
They do, perhaps, go on longer than they used to though.
I remember the dogs (and some of the cats) I had as a kid being slightly nervous and hiding in corners...not enough to require sedation or anything extreme. Nobody really "kicked off" about it... Maybe it's just because we didn't have WhatsApp/FB etc to whinge about stuff? Or maybe things just bothered us less?

Back on topic though it is a bit tone deaf I agree.
Not sure why it would make front page news though.

I'm absolutely disgusted by this man, he sounds like a pompous and selfish twat. I can't wait for private fireworks to be banned.

Tell you what let's just cut out the middle man and kill off all the things that will selfishly ruin our enjoyment of fireworks by being frightened of them. So that's cats, dogs (because not all can be desensitised), horses, all wildlife and one of my DNs.

Great job done 🙄.

There are some absolute bellends on this thread. That's all. Agree with you OP.

I don’t think pets are getting weaker. I am the same as you and remember many bonfires and firework displays years ago. We also always had numerous pets who were largely unbothered. I think the difference nowadays is that modern fireworks are so much louder. There are those explosion type booms. We just had ‘bangers’ years ago which were not even that loud. My dog is terrified of those very loud ones no matter what I do. I can only imagine how terrifying it must be for livestock in fields and wildlife. Also people are letting off fireworks for weeks before and after Bonfire night it’s not just one night.

Following the thread in anticipation of @SomethingInTheAirToday enlightening us all on how to desensitise horses and wildlife to the mortar bomb bangs that are produced by some fireworks nowadays. I've read so many reports the past few weeks (and years previously) of birds, horses and wild animals dying from fear and shock. Do they do some sort of massive countryside "plug-in" that will give off a soothing aroma for miles? Maybe we round up the animals and do a mass sedation programme every night, or the BBC could set up loud speakers everywhere with soothing music to play.

"Funnily enough" although most wildlife will survive, it still leaves them traumatised, and even one death from the shock of a firework is one death too many. Or do you think it's a fair price to pay for the "fun" of watching fireworks.?

How can a Horse be ‘prepared’ for fireworks? A Horse DIED. Where is your empathy?!?!

Grow up? A Horse DIED. Where is your empathy?!?!

Your lack of empathy is genuinely chilling.

Where I live there have been fireworks every single night since 26 October, even last night when the rain was pouring down there were still loud explosions going off. To date we have had 16 nights on the run of fireworks, do you suggest that people "grow up" and just accept this nightly disruption that now lasts until early January with no let up?

I won’t tag but there’s two posters on this thread that I’m genuinely embarrassed for. Imagine being so protective of your bangy bangy lighty lighties that you throw around such inane statements. I would be interested how, in all their wisdom, they suggest we prepare and train wildlife, livestock and pets - many of which are prey animals. Anything to be controversial, eh?

I hope that Pets Corner doesn’t go bust as I would feel sorry for all of their staff, if so. I do however think this man is an absolutely hypocritical arsehole and I do hope somebody in his life is giving him an almighty dressing down (also, moving in the younger model just after divorce - ick).

Thanks @CatHugger I have signed and hopefully the majority of sensible posters on this thread will too.