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To think monogamy survives mostly on denial, not devotion?

63 replies

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 16:08

Most people who preach loyalty also flirt with escape. We like the idea of forever, not the practice.

AIBU to think monogamy only works when both partners keep choosing it daily, not pretending it’s effortless?

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NikkiPotnick · 04/11/2025 16:59

Barso · 04/11/2025 16:53

Tbh my first reaction when I hear someone had an affair is 'how could they be bothered?' All that sneaking around and lying sounds exhausting and stressful.

It does! The whole concept has never seemed very desirable to me. I assume the people who do it are getting enough out of it to justify the downsides, but I can't say I fancy the idea.

BruFord · 04/11/2025 17:01

Barso · 04/11/2025 16:53

Tbh my first reaction when I hear someone had an affair is 'how could they be bothered?' All that sneaking around and lying sounds exhausting and stressful.

@Barso I agree, I’m far too lazy to sneak around, just can’t be bothered.

Plus making an effort with another man sounds exhausting, DH requires enough attention already. 😂

ApathyCentral · 04/11/2025 17:02

You have ‘what ifs’? And things get monotonous? Weird.

I’m still having an adventure with him. I’ve never needed to look elsewhere and I’m not bored. It’s been 20 years. I think I’m good for the long haul.

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 04/11/2025 17:06

I’ve been with my husband 22 years…..we’re only 36.
It is effortless! We’ve faced hard times together (infertility, miscarriages, he suddenly became seriously ill and developed a life long condition that affects him and our family) but our relationship was the easiest part of all that.
Hes says the same! I feel incredibly lucky to have found my person I want to be with so young!
You sound bitter OP, who has hurt you?

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 17:08

ApathyCentral · 04/11/2025 17:02

You have ‘what ifs’? And things get monotonous? Weird.

I’m still having an adventure with him. I’ve never needed to look elsewhere and I’m not bored. It’s been 20 years. I think I’m good for the long haul.

That’s how it should be when it works well. I don’t think having “what ifs” necessarily means boredom or disloyalty though; for some people, it’s just part of being self-aware. Even in great relationships, people can reflect on the idea of choice and still stay deeply committed.

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SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 17:12

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 04/11/2025 17:06

I’ve been with my husband 22 years…..we’re only 36.
It is effortless! We’ve faced hard times together (infertility, miscarriages, he suddenly became seriously ill and developed a life long condition that affects him and our family) but our relationship was the easiest part of all that.
Hes says the same! I feel incredibly lucky to have found my person I want to be with so young!
You sound bitter OP, who has hurt you?

I’m glad you’ve found that kind of ease. I’m not bitter at all though! This was more of a reflection on how different relationships can be - for some people it’s effortless, for others it takes daily intention. Both can be genuine love. I just find the psychology of it interesting.

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spoonbillstretford · 04/11/2025 17:12

As soon as I was committed to DH, I stopped acting like a single person, and apart from occasional crossed wires or chancers, I just don't give off vibes that I'm single or available in any way, and don't flirt or talk to someone in the same way as I did when I was single. So the opportunity would never arise as I'm not looking for it, and though I am not bad looking, I'm not giving off body language that says I'm available, so it's never an issue.

ginasevern · 04/11/2025 17:16

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 16:28

Haha no, not Brad Pitt-level daydreaming

I meant more the quiet “what ifs” - the mental exits people keep open when things get routine. The idea that monogamy only feels natural when it’s new but over time it needs active recommitment rather than autopilot. I think a lot of people underestimate that part.

But you're assuming that most married people are constantly "eyeing up" or itching for an opportunity for escape or have extra-marital sex. If that was the case, then yes, it would be an enormous effort to stay monogamous.

littleburn · 04/11/2025 17:26

ginasevern · 04/11/2025 17:16

But you're assuming that most married people are constantly "eyeing up" or itching for an opportunity for escape or have extra-marital sex. If that was the case, then yes, it would be an enormous effort to stay monogamous.

Yeah, that’s the bit I’m struggling to follow, that monogamy has to be an active, ‘daily intention’ rather than just a state of existence that most of us don’t give much thought to. I don’t think most people’s default is to be actively eyeing up others every day!

Edited to say, but if it is I rather admire their energy levels. Between work and family I simply don’t have the time to either question or actively work on my monogamy!

phantomofthepopera · 04/11/2025 17:29

Disagree. I don’t choose to be monogamous, there’s no conscious effort. I’ve never looked at another man in 16 years with DH. I’m still deeply in love and he is the only man I want. If he went under a bus tomorrow I’m sure I’ll be single forever.

TattooStan · 04/11/2025 17:29

I guess I choose monogamy because I'm a fairly straightforward and moral person and couldnt be sneaking around telling lies, and wouldn't treat my husband with that degree of disrespect.
It's not easy or hard, it just...is.

FlatErica · 04/11/2025 17:30

I only love my partner and I don’t fancy anyone else so it’s pretty easy for me.

ConflictofInterest · 04/11/2025 17:35

Choosing it daily sounds exhausting. Surely for most monogamous couples it's just not something they think about most of the time? For me it's never on my mind so I don't need to choose it. It's effortless because I never think about it. I've got marriage/sex/relationship ticked off in my mind. My daily choices are around what to eat, what to read, what to book for the weekend, other men haven't crossed my mind in about 20 years.

ChaToilLeam · 04/11/2025 17:37

Honestly, it requires no effort whatsoever. I'm not interested in any other man. Affairs, open relationships, poly, swinging etc - apart from the ick they give me, they all sound bloody exhausting.

FellowSuffereroftheAbsurd · 04/11/2025 17:38

The title makes no sense with the question - Choosing each other daily is not denial - that is devotion. Devotion is intentional, it isn't an emotion.

When things are good, monogamy probably does feel effortless. I’m more interested in how people handle it when that effortless stage wears off. For some, staying devoted becomes an intentional act rather than just a feeling. That’s the bit I think most people gloss over.

Not sure it gets glossed over - maybe in movies, but there is a whole world of relationship research that discusses that no relationship can be based on a feeling, any solid base is intentional.

IME, ease in that intentionality in relationships comes and goes and importantly can return, often influenced by the environment, experience, as well as intentionally.

I'm more than two decades in and marriage/monogamy is easier than ever, far easier than the start. It is essentially effortless at this point as what we've built habits and woven our stories and lives together in a way that's really enjoyable.

The hardest part of my marriage was about 10-15 years in when we were dealing with multiple loved ones going through terminal illnesses, the care responsibilities of both that and young children, managing the dying and deaths of loved ones with young children & culture clashes within the family on how dying and death should be managed with children and on top of that, I was in my late 20s and early 30s (married at 18), and surrounded by people who were unhappy with whatever situation they were in, wanting more, and sadly had this idea that I think media fuels that if we're facing struggles in some area of life, then there must be an issue with our main relationships as well. I cannot tell you how many times during that time period I had unhappy people, women particularly, telling me that the reason I felt stressed had to be my marriage and/or my husband, and how often I had people unsolicited and with no knowledge of my relationship, who I never discussed my relationship with at any point beyond them knowing I was married with kids, recommend divorce, giving up men, and/or polyamory in various flavours. It ate at me when I was at my weakest. It was nothing in my marriage that was hard, it was the experiences going on around me in those hell years that made life in general hard, and those voice pushed the lens onto my marriage in a way that at times made it appear so.

I came out of that by changing who I was around, working through the losses in my life - both literal in the deaths of loved ones and in those relationships that once really mattered but turned out to be harmful - and intentionally focusing more on my marriage, my home, and relearning what I actually enjoy, not the things that other people told me would make me happy that repeatedly failed.

Now in my 40s, I've changed careers twice since then, I'm mainly around people who are fairly happy in their situations, whether it's happily single or partnered up, and compared to being in my 20s, it's really not as big part of our conversations. My oldest is in his twenties, and three other kids in their teens, I'm no longer in the high stress of little ones or caring for the dying. It's little wonder marriage is a lot easier now.

And really, my early marriage was filled with the stress of immigration, kids, and young adult life, and seeing my own adult children at those ages - I absolutely have no desire to be back at that, even with all the lovely emotions and hormones, life was hard times, which pushes at any relationship - what I've built in the mean time with my husband and wider loved ones is so beyond what young me knew was possible. I'm quite happy to intentionally pick devotion.

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 17:39

You seem very invested in other people’s posting habits. Touch some grass.

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Weefreetiffany · 04/11/2025 17:39

I like my partner, i like getting to know him. We have to conciously choose each other as we change with life and experiences, but thats not a hardship as we both value monogamy and growing together, not apart. It can be boring and anazing, just like anything in life that goes on for a while. Its hard, but so is starting over again and again, and not learning how to be satisfied with yourself and your partner. Choose your hard.

LilyCanna · 04/11/2025 17:40

Zero effort to stay monogamous here! Maintaining a good relationship takes effort though I think (perhaps some people find even that effortless!). But mainly that’s about finding compromises on that thing that’s pointless to you but really important to them. And communicating what’s important to you. Knowing when to cut each other some slack. That kind of thing.

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 17:41

ConflictofInterest · 04/11/2025 17:35

Choosing it daily sounds exhausting. Surely for most monogamous couples it's just not something they think about most of the time? For me it's never on my mind so I don't need to choose it. It's effortless because I never think about it. I've got marriage/sex/relationship ticked off in my mind. My daily choices are around what to eat, what to read, what to book for the weekend, other men haven't crossed my mind in about 20 years.

I think for some people it is natural, which is probably ideal. I meant that for others, choosing it daily is less about struggle and more about awareness, like not taking the relationship for granted.

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Candlesandmatches · 04/11/2025 17:43

Love is a choice. It’s also an emotion. But when life gets hard it’s more of a choice. But I meant my wedding vows. They were vows. They are until death. So I try to live them every day. And I hope that DH will too. And God helps us along. Both of us have flaws and have and maybe will hurt each other. But I continent to choose my marriage.

TattooStan · 04/11/2025 17:52

We've been together 20 years. A couple of times, we've been through a bad patch. I stay because DH is fundamentally a really good egg - he's collecting me from the train station this evening because it's raining, for instance. We've got 2 decades of history, which it would be such a shame to throw away, unless things were really dire. I can picture being 50, 60 and 70 with him - he evolves, as do I, and we always seem to continue to rub along well.
If I think about leaving him, it's brief, and I realise I can't be arsed to sell the house and untangle our shared finances and shared friends, and have joint custody of the dog!
So I continue to make monogamy work through a combination of deep love, friendship, a strategic eye on the future, and apathy!

Livelaughlurgy · 04/11/2025 18:02

I thought the thread read Mahogany and thought I know my Granny was devoted to her mahogany but not sure what the denial is all about.

TheendofmrY · 04/11/2025 18:03

I find monogamy very easy if the alternative you’re comparing it to is having multiple partners. It’s the decision to be bothered making the effort to continue with monogamy over single/celibate life that requires daily effort and commitment if you ask me!

SageSorrelSaffron · 05/11/2025 07:00

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 04/11/2025 17:06

I’ve been with my husband 22 years…..we’re only 36.
It is effortless! We’ve faced hard times together (infertility, miscarriages, he suddenly became seriously ill and developed a life long condition that affects him and our family) but our relationship was the easiest part of all that.
Hes says the same! I feel incredibly lucky to have found my person I want to be with so young!
You sound bitter OP, who has hurt you?

Can I just say, I’m happy for you that you found your forever at 14, but that last sentence is so so smug and shitty, that it has slipped into Hubris.

It is so beyond anything acceptable, and the ‘who hurt you?’ questioning, as if the OP, or anyone, owes you some insight into her life so your get to use it as gossip fodder, or even worse, to scold her about it.

I’m a lot older than you, and I would say you should mind your business, at 36 you’re still practically a baby.